: what you’re not seeing is that pajama guardian and star guardian are the same skins. they’re almost exactly the same except for the model change. so why would pajama guardian not be the same price as star guardian? since it’s basically the same version with the same vfx, sfx, and everything then it shouldn’t be cheaper. variants are only full price if you didn’t already have star guardian. it’s not even that the pajama guardian skin is priced as a “new skin,” it’s full price. its full price because it’s the same skin tier as other epic skins. and since it has been done before and is not necessarily new, it has a discount if you already owned the other version. just because there’s not as much creative effort in the skin, it doesn’t mean it should be cheaper. the new type of skins “variants” were designed like that. it’s a different option if you didn’t like the original model. an upgraded chroma, but instead of a new paint job, it’s a new model, at least for the pajama guardians. that’s why the discount price is more expensive than chromas. that’s why the discount price is 742 RP and that’s why you pay for a model change. full price because it’s the same skin, discounted because it’s the same skin. you don’t understand that you get a discount if you already had the original version. **IF YOU HAD THE ORIGINAL STAR GUARDIAN SKIN, WHICH IS 1350 RP, THEN YOU ONLY PAY 742 RP FOR THE PAJAMA GUARDIAN SKIN. IF YOU DONT HAVE THE ORIGINAL STAR GUARDIAN SKIN THEN YOU PAY 1350 RP FOR THE PAJAMA GUARDIAN SKIN AND THE STAR GUARDIAN SKIN WILL BE 742 RP** YOU GET A DISCOUNT. YOU DONT PAY DOUBLE
If you read my previous reply, you'll understand that, quoting you "pajama guardian and star guardian are the same skins. they’re almost exactly the same except for the model change. so why would pajama guardian not be the same price as star guardian?" = because they're charging as a new skin for an idea that was used already, the value for the creative part (adding pijamas) is not nearly as hard as the one that should be given to the creation of new sfx/vfx and a theme in particular; damn even choosing the right colors is part of the creative part, which is something not present in this skin. Unfortunately, unless you work on design/publicity/marketing, you can't understand the different value of something original and something enchanced or changed and based on something else. You don't need to use caps to expose your notion, I'm sorry if you're used to talk with ignorant people.
: only priced as a new skin if you didn't have the original. if you already had the original version then it was priced as 742 RP which is actually cheaper than a skin that just changes the model. he variant was a different version of a skin that already existed but obviously winter wonder soraka isn't a different version of an already existing skin. the literal definition of variant is "a form or version of something that differs in some respect from other forms of the same thing or from a standard." the definition of new is "not existing before; made, introduced, or discovered recently or now for the first time."
What you're saying is exactly what I'm saying, but you're too focused on how cheap is to buy a variant when you have the original SG. Variants are priced as new skins, as "not existing before, something introduced as new", while it takes the vfx/sfx from an already existing skin. It's not about wheter you buy one or 2 to see the benefit, but on how they assume the creative work is not worth at all, since there's no creative concept on it (it's just a pijama, no need of a full redesing), so they assume that, without creative work, a variant still has to be priced as a new skin but, basically, is an upgraded chroma for that skin. If you tell me that variants can be bought only with the original skin at a 1820-2000-ish rp, I'd understand, since it would work like chromas, you need the original skin for that. But for economi reasons, a variant is priced as a new skin, when It's only a swap model.
: variants and skins are different. soraka got a different version of a skin she got a year ago and is getting a brand new one this year.
> soraka got a different version of a skin she got a year ago Priced as a new skin. So it's only a new skin when it's convenient (aka $$$), but a variant when it comes to how many skins she had last year? Ok...
: rp not return?!?
I think that's the idea. It's a testing enviroment, you can only test the new stuff, because older skins already had this QA process and PBE feedback.
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Snow Man Yi!
This is a fun skin, love the "sword", but why Yi? Same with Soraka, except Yi had 3 skins in the last year and a half (counting this one), and 2 sets of chromas.
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Ice King Twitch
Hi,. Can I ask why Twitch has 2 snow skins? And If Snowdown ARURF is back, which skin should Twitch show?
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Winter Wonder Soraka!
Hi Katey, I loooove this skin, she looks gorgeous. But asking... why Soraka? I mean, I play her a lot, I own most of her skins and this one I'm buying, but why her? She had the pajama SG this patch, last year too, seems too frecuent. I'm just curious on how you pick a champ for a skin, like for real and not the answer you posted months ago on Ask Riot.
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Frozen Prince Mundo!
Not sure if this is the right place for feedbak on this but the splash is kinda creepy and I loved it. I miss the creepy things in league, now everyone are friends and laugh and have beautiful memories from childhood.
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Snowdown Chromas!
Golden chromas aren't good tbh, but what bothers me is that the Winter Wonder/Snowday/Ice themes are blue/light-blue/white for a reason: it fits the theme of snow/winter. Why do you want to sell so many stuff like this now? I understand there're ways to sell a different fantasy, but hey, snowday skins are that: SNOW AND ICE, WHITE, BLUE. On the other hand, you did a great job with Soraka, but the Obsidian is pretty confusing, looks like a different line of skins, ala Coven.
: Introducing Variants: Pajama Guardians & Solar and Lunar Eclipse Leona
Why Leona and not Diana too? Why not a dual skin release? Leona looks awesome but these variants are way too expensive.
: Thanks for the feedback. This is an experiment we are trying out, if everyone hates them, we just won't release more. They are a lot more work than Chromas for us, so if everyone is happy with just chromas we'll listen and stick to those.
Well, I don't think this is about being happy with chromas, but more about not buying a skin that is a chroma of a skin. It shows how less you care about the creative part, since it seems that a new skin with no creativity or mental effort invested on it is as expensive as a skin with a cohesive theme.
: RP and BE ??
Did you try using the search bar, or even reading the frontpage for boards? [It's literally RIGHT THERE.](https://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/client-new-features-feedback/dM75EUEY-pbe-and-rp) Do that next time.
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Program LeBlanc!
I gotta ask, is the hologram a reference on how LeBlanc is not really there and could be anywhere comanding this robotic body? On the other hand, when are you going to announce the cancellation for these skins? If Sewn Chaos Amumu/Blitz didn't receive negative feedback and got cancelled, and these aren't... then why would you put this on live?
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Orianna, Nami, LeBlanc, Graves, and Fiddlesticks Chromas!
Please stop using chromas for skinlines with a distinctive color like Project (each champ one color)/Program (green)/Dragon trainers (orange/reddish), etc. I understand you need to sell an alternate version, since the originals are hideous, but seriously, it's getting boring.
: I was laughing because I was imagining what and Elderwood Nami would look like....So people can't imagine having a program nami skin because that is so not her, but they can imagine her having an elderwood, another, what many would consider "not nami" skin? I have plenty imagination, there is a plethora of gorgeous nami skin concepts and elderwood nami is not among them. Cassiopeia (another footless champ) is more likely to get a elderwood skin than nami
Well, seems like pretty much everybody else thinks it's the other way around. I understand your hype for having a new skin for your main, but wake up: it's a hideous skin, visually confusing and overloaded, and it belongs to one of the worst skinlines for "futuristic/robotic style". Good for Riot you're going to buy it even when it's not pretty at all. Seriously, I understand, I did the same with Sweetheart Rakan/Xayah, but I'm not dumb enough to convince myself that those were cool skins.
: > Elderwood probably Because Elderwood would be so fitting for a fish LOL
Well, seems like you have no imagination or google skills. Please just google it, it's an amazing concept (maybe somewhat similar to Koi Nami, since it fills it's theme of nature spirit). Elderwood has a mobile assasin, a centaur and a mystic balloon. So yeah, it can have a mermaid.
: I don't think skin themes "must" fit their champions. Skins can be for shits and giggles just as much as they can be a step up for their character. It varies from skin to skin, and that's a big part of the fun of designing (and playing with) skins. Besides, it's not like you'd want every Nami skin to be a pretty, cutesy, e-girl skin, right? Look at Lux, she has several varieties of Military-themed skins (although, unfortunately, none of them are recent.) I don't want Nami, or any character really, to be limited to Star Guardian, Sweetheart, etc. skins just because their character thematic is "cute girl." I think a Death Sworn Nami would look very pretty cool for example. Of course a skin should fit the character in *some* way at least. You wouldn't want to give a Project skin to Lulu for example. You just have to use your judgement. I judge that Program is not far off for Nami or Leblanc.
I never mentioned that she should have a cute, pretty, e-girl skin. Even a Blood Moon Nami would've been decent, Elderwood probably, even Infernal, but Project is a terrible skinline, and in visuals, this Nami looks like Predator.
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Program Nami!
Hi Katey! I know you're a Nami main. Just curious, why this theme? It does't feel like Nami at all, It doesn't fit. If Chaos Sewn Amumu/Blitz were cancelled by these reasons, why is Nami (and LeBlanc) picked for this theme?
: [CLOSED] PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Cosmic Enchantress Lulu
Just a feedback on the whole new set of Cosmic skin line: Ashe/Lulu received too many skins recently. I don't understand why them, again, and specially since Lulu has a SG skin and they're both a similar theme. Effects are awesome, model looks as usual, but the mini-A. Sol seems like insulting A. Sol Mains since he had the disgusting mecha skin the same patch. Kinda tacky. Man you didn't even reply the Pool party skins feedback. Are you really that focused on creating quantity instead of quality? If you cancelled the Amumu/Blitz skins and you can't do something about these ones, it's pointless to give any feedback.
: [CLOSED] PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Mafia Braum!
Hi, nice skin btw. He looks hot, protective and lovely as our usual Braum but, why so much gold? I mean, mafia members didn't rob banks, and the rest of the mafia/Ganster line is more about MF/Graves/Jinx against Twitch than stealing gold, in fact, Jinx and MF splashes show the ways they are trying to catch Twitch (MF in a shooting in what appears to be the docks, Jinx dresses as a dancer to attack from the inside), while Braum is just having so much gold and cracking a safe? I understand the safe is the shield and you're balancing the skin around it, still, is not thematically cohesive with the rest of the skin, and you may want to tone down the gold effects. Seems like a cultural mistake, and this is what I complain when you do so much skins: sooner or later, quality get lower and lower, not in effects, but in an intelectual plane; seems likethis is a skin to show you're doing amazing effects for it (and you do), but honestly, it shows how less time you're dedicating into doing a quality product without investigating the theme/line.
: Pool Party Caitlyn
Hi, nice job, I really like the skin. Still some stuff I just can't ignore: Her passive is nearly imposible to see, It’s not clear at all. We need to know when we can trade with the passive. Her W should be something different. If your fantasy is a party at the beach, then a seashell+coloured pearl for clarity should do it, or even a jellyfish. Her ulti is plain boring, along with W. Someone mentioned a swordfish (I think is too much still). And lastly, the recall... She can't kick the crab, please. It doesn't make any sense, he's fanning her, he wants her to be comfortable, and she just kicks it. Maybe she sould just pet it. Please, why is no-one replying to these comments? They're really good ideas. And to be honest, I'd like some cool PP Skins after ignoring the event last year.
: I noticed she has a run to idle animation. That's an unusual thing for an epic skin. I loved it! Will this be a trend now for future skins on older champs?
I think it's partly to update the model for older champs until an eventually VU and I love it too.
: I really enjoy playing the new Akali, but I feel like her 975 skins deserve some more love. I’m talking about custom recalls, maybe some more particles, possibly some recolors for example. Overall a great rework though!
Man, I don't want to be a bi&tch but getting Infernal Akali instead of Crimson Akali is a pretty good deal,a nd If you already owned it, you won The only issue I found was that Bloodmon Akali looks way too similar to Sweetheart/Heartseeker's skin line so yes, she needs more particles or some changes on those. ANd as it was mentioned before, Silverfang will have better VFXs, otherwise seems like a female Soulstealer Kayn.
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Pool Party and Headhunter Akali Chromas!
Please stop with the Cromas... It takes away the champion personality and the intention of the original skin And I certainly don't want to fulfill the "sniper cop in bikini suit... with pink hair", I' playing Caitlyn and I find the skin fun, and I agree that changes for hair color and so are ok IF and only IF they match the fantasy for that skin, example: Star Guardian skins. Doing textures for cromas takes away some time you could invest into making Akali's hair different for her different skins... or even to apply new technology when you rework a champ (yes, I remember Aviator Irelia with the blue wig, instead of a floating hair like Zoe's/Kayn's ponytail).
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: SSG Skins
Hi, a couple of things here: Xayah: The root resembles Ryze's runic prision, still, feels off with the other elements around; the feathers glow, the smoke effects (also present in Ezreal's SSG skin) are all so epic but the root is just so narrow and straight, it breaks the whole concept of this mythic themed skin. Taliyah: she needs more SSG stuff around. Also, her W seems like such a worked piece of rock, but then the E seems so poor and the ulti has this white roots; if the theme is a Robin Hood-like Taliyah, from the woods but still armored and elegant, then use the same theme in the W than the ult, so the W can seem a little more rough.
: ARAM Updates on PBE
Why not adding a new dice to reroll? It's been 2 dices and we have plenty of champs, whenever we want to roll a dice, we get the same champ we got a couple of matches ago.
: THESE CHAMPS NEEdS A BUFFF
"lol XD bullshit rework." god, you are awful. Swain is not supposed to burst you, is a DPS mage. Syndra is getting her amplified damage on Q. Kindred is a champ who needs skill. Irelia is new and you need to learn to play her. Regarding killing tanks: They're reverting/reworking AD items, including armor pen items. Regarding your response to another comment... "are you from the technical stuff or something ?" WHY DO YOU POST ON A PUBLIC FORUM IF YOU'RE NOT WILLING TO RECEIVE FEEDBACK? You don't provide any reasons for your "point of view". And lastly, this is not the place for your complain, go and post it on live boards. I'm reporting this thread since you're not adding anything to the table.
: Pulsefire skins/BM Eve
Hey, why crying over a champ who got reworked not so long ago, and received a whole bunch of "new" skins? I do agree that BM Eve is trash, but let's be honest, Tango Eve is really cool. And I do believe that Project Eve may be a thing someday (that skinline is mostly used on duelist champs), but It's not really cool to complain using as an argument "Shen got a new skin, I'm ok with that BUT"... As you mentioned, Shen mains waited years before a new skin, Riot argument was "he got a rework recently", so yeah, even Eve had more luck than Shen on getting a skin so close to the rework. It's more than ok to wait for another year (I'm still waiting for a new Bard skin, a serious one, not a meme one).
: Re-Adding Damage Amplification for Ahri's Kiss is a Bad Idea
??? They're adding the damage amp in exchange for the Q Movement Speed boost. In fact, it seems you're not understanding why the changes are taking place: Ahri is too safe, but can't carry. Even fed, playing with Ahri is just a "hold my lane and wait for being carried", so when ahead, you can't take advantage as an assasing-mage champ, but when behind, you don't get punished that hard. So they're adding damage and taking away the MS, that provided so much safety for her. Still, they're not aware that the real issue is her W.
: say what now?!
That's because the gold for killing a cannon minion has been increased. That way you force the adc to leave those to the supp and don't take the caster minions, for example.
: Potentially we can see what we can do about the hair, no promises as of now but we will look into it.
Yes please, I mean you have great hair styles and movement like Kayn's, Zoe's, Taric's. Irelia's seems like a rag doll hair attached. Don't see the point of a VGU when the Visual aspect is not taken into account to use the new tech.
: no me aparecen las nuevas habilidade de irelia
Tratá de preguntar en inglés que el PBE se maneja mayormente así. Y no se actualizan las habilidades en el cliente aún, lo hacen en su lanzamiento oficial (también tienen Orden de Loto no habilitada).
: Sweetheart Xayah and Rakan splash art loading screen
I tried to check the thread for Sweetheart Xayah but comments are disabled now... But the splashart is nowhere near of the skin, her chest piece is white, her dress looks light and soft and has boots (or some leggings), but the skin doesn't. Regarding Rakan's, his skin has no turtleneck but in the splash art he does.
: Hi! The hair color is something we can absolutely discuss! Rakan not being shirtless was a conscious choice we've made because in this set of skins, Xayah and Rakan are meant to be the princess/prince. It wouldn't make too much sense to have a shirtless guy at a ball, would it? ;)
Yeah I was afraid of the shirtless topic, I understand Heartseeker may be a little but more provocative skin line and Sweetheart a little bit more naive? Still, you may wanna show some meat, the shoulders in the suit are a little bit too much? And yes please change the hair color, I know you'd had to change the emote/icons too but that'd be worth. Thanks for the reply and feedback from you!
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Sweetheart Rakan!
Hi, regarding this skin, here's some feedback you may use: * - His face and hair color, they're like a frozen version from the base skin. You need to do him blonde or at least copy the Orianna/Quinn style (white and purple shadows) and a more natural skin tone. * - He needs to be shirtless. Like, really. It's kind of silly but he's pretty much known for his body, it's like you giving us a chest-covered Taric skin, we can't have that. * Check the style used for Varus, he's like a greek god, Rakan can't be less sexy than that. Shirtless, a pinky-white wing/cape and pink/purple pair of pants matching with Xayah, same style for boots or armor on his legs. * - Visual effects are pretty, the rose-theme is really nice and soft, other skins from this line are overcharged with those tiny hearts on the skin and on the effects. Thanks for the time!
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Sweetheart Xayah!
Hello there. Just my feedback on this: * - There's a tweak really weird on Xayah's head while recalling. It's not visually attractive at all, her shoulder touching her chin like she has a dislocated shoulder * - Her hair is really dark and she's just like Ahri, it's like Debonair Ezreal red chroma with Tango TF. Maybe with red hair? If you're taking her cape off, give her some nice red hair at least. * - Her visual effects are quite similar to the base skin. One less reason to buy this. * - The suit's pallette seems nice, but for a Bloodmon skin as someone else pointed out. It's supposed to evoque something cheerful and adorable, or cute and kinda attractive, but It doesn't, she looks like The Evil Queen from Once Upon a Time. Did you try unitards on both Xayah and Rakan, and go for the predominant color on the wing/cape they have, since it's what's visually distinctive in game? With white or purple-ish unitards both of them, a colored red cape with the same style on the accessories (bracelets, boots or armor), and a change of hair-color she would look just awesome, even if the visual effects on abilities are the same.
: All Snow Battle ARURF champions have an AOE spell of some sort. I'm not saying use this or that champ, I'm saying AOE spells OS them, so no matter what champ you get, just use his AOE.
Ok, but you do know that using the aoe spell you mention only on minions/malz voidlings leaves you with one less spell to cast at your enemy, who already has a spellshield, and that aoe is usually the longest cd spell in your kit, even in arurf? The feedback is totally reasonable, Malz is really oppresive in this game mode (so as Brand for example), he's the only champ with pets in the game, and is only limited by time those pets, last not by some sort of amount limit.
: You can literally OS all his spiderlings with any AOE spell. For example Syndra Q, Olaf Q, etc. Or if he is under your tower, simply hit him until he retreats, he can't dive you lvl 3.
Well, the feedback is for the Snow Battle ARURF I assume, and in that case, you can't just say "use X ability" since he can't control which champion he'll get,
: > [{quoted}](name=ThisCharmingMann,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=WPE4L1Wq,comment-id=00320000,timestamp=2017-11-24T18:44:02.776+0000) > the only thing closest to that is the ice form in Elementalist Lux but they can't code it to show only that feature for the skin. MMMMMMMMMH closest ? Did you realize it isn't close ? IT IS ICE SKIN lux
It's not a skin, it's a feature from a skin. Learn the difference. It's not coded as a skin, but as a change in-.game for that skin.
: Revitalize doesn't increase health regen ?
It's intended. It's suppossed to work on heals and shields casted on allies or on yourself, but self-regen is not a heal or a shield you can cast.
: Just want to say: LUX is to strong but fizz is okey...
Did you even read the whole post? No-one said Lux was too strong. Sona is the one that's too strong and is not available. Lux, on the other hand, is not present because she doesn't have a winter/icy/snowday themed related skin, the only thing closest to that is the ice form in Elementalist Lux but they can't code it to show only that feature for the skin.
: Can teemo have his trap limit removed
2 things: 1 - This is the PBE board, your suggestion has nothing to do with the PBE enviroment. Please move it to your server's board if need attention. 2 - Kinda meh? He has over 50% winrate as toplaner and support... 2nd place in winrate for a toplaner, amongst the best 15 supports. Aery broke him. Irelia and Katarina are different kinds of champs, you're trying to compare water with whiskey, both can kill you in excess but in different ways.
: 14 days chat ban NICE RIOT
: About Ambitious Elf Jinx Skin
Hi. Remember that when a skin is released in PBE, devs post a thread to give feedback. Please learn to use the search bar. Thread is [HERE](https://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/client-new-features-feedback/EnApkK27-pbe-bugs-feedback-thread-ambitious-elf-jinx). Regarding your comment... it's a 1350 RP skin, has a new homeguard animation (which not many 1350 skins have), and the "should be more expressive, more special, with much effects" WHAT? Give ideas, that's the point of feedback. Why do you think this skin deserves more? Because it's your main? Other champs with similar winrates/presence didn't even have a skin for years (Jarvan S7, Gragas, Shen, even Taliyah/Aurelion didn't with the competitive scene this year). How would you design the ultimate to be "more creative" as you request? Please GIVE IDEAS, not only complains.
: Ohh.. I'm sorry =\ I looked fast, but, so.. I thought my bug probably was because the icon I choosed, but ty for information ♥ and I'm sorry again {{sticker:sg-soraka}}
No need to say sorry, just enter that link and give an upvote to that thread so the rioters can check it.
: "Celestial Body" feedback
Hi. Well, 2 things: 1 - This is the PBE board, runes are live and celestial body is live too. Post it on the regional board, this is not feedback from PBE. 2 - I think it's meant to be used by champs who actually do damage by their own health stats so It can balance them early game (gives them a chance to do a decent damage and mid-late game will be 100 health more), like Braum's Q, Dr. Mundo's Sadism, Poppy's passive shield, Zac's w I think too, and so.
: PROJECT mission's bug [Not receiviment of rewards]
This was reported 15 hours ago, please use the search bar or read the instructions [here](https://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/bugs/CF5EEDC8FF5AC1A896F517E2C7AE4650C472807F-how-to-report-bugs-on-the-pbe). Oldest report so far: https://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/bugs/OzXIe4VH-new-event-tokens-doesnt-show-up-on-loot-menu EDIT: for icon bug, here's the thread: https://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/bugs/3OKxekQA-missions-problem-with-the-icon
: > [{quoted}](name=ThisCharmingMann,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=kB0fsWFw,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-11-16T17:35:19.239+0000) > > You can't comment on the NA boards because it's set to coment only on boards from your server (BR and PBE only, not an IP block), and yes, this shouldn't be here. > Try reaching via reddit. **_ES_** Hola. Estas son algunas de las excepciones conocidas: -Con cuenta EU Oeste puedes escribir en NA -Con cuenta EU Oeste puedes escribir en EUNE -Con cuenta EU Oeste puedes escribir en OCE -Con cuenta EUNE puedes escribir en EU Oeste -Con cuenta EUNE puedes escribir en Turquía Posiblemente, con cualquier cuenta podrás escribir en NA. ---------------- **_EN_** Hi. These are some of the known exceptions: -With EU West account you can write in NA -With EU West account you can write in EUNE -With EU West account you can write in OCE -With EUNE account you can write in EU West -With EUNE account you can write in Turkey Possibly, with any account you can write in NA. {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}}
Actually no, I tried it when I got the PBE account, I couldn't use my PBE or my LAS account in the NA or the PBE boards. Support confirmed that I should create a NA account to comment in NA boards, PBE for PBE boards and so.
: [Universe/Jhin Lore] Lore not updated in English on NA and EUW
You can't comment on the NA boards because it's set to coment only on boards from your server (BR and PBE only, not an IP block), and yes, this shouldn't be here. Try reaching via reddit.
: > [{quoted}](name=Amy Sery,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=8Rc4F2A6,comment-id=0000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-11-10T11:20:51.508+0000) > > try contacting Riot Player Support with your live account; see if they can help you out :) my wife, friends and I have done this.......still awaiting response..... to be honest its not fun to play right now.......of my last 15 games on PBE or Live Server someone has been with the wrong runes because they couldnt edit successfully or had NO rune 5 times..... The Runes are even more significant now (They Are Really Masteries with Keystones, but whats in a name) and I asked about this BEFORE the 7.23 patch was available here in more than one post...I received no response.....and its astounding that in 3 days on 7.23 here Riot cannot make rune pages available for purchase...they wont even update the page where you buy them to Season 8 on PBE or Live....... and this is something players will PAY FOR with BE OR more importantly to Riot RP.... I dont get it but my friends and I are losing patience awaiting responses and ability to buy..... hence we play LESS and buy NOTHING.......
Man, stop complaining for a sec and remember, it's PBE, the forums are designed to either provide feedback or report a bug, not complains, and as far as I can see, you're not reporting a bug, and you put this under "Feature Feedback" while is just complain after complain. To report it, do what all testers do to test something: TRY IT, reproduce all the steps, and take screenshots. If you don't want to because "it's a risk" and whatsoever (many excuses from you TBH), then don't sign in for a beta enviroment and let other people do what you're not willing to do. Have a nice day away from League of Legends.
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