: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Immortal Journey & Championship Ryze Chromas!
I know it's not the same team but no RIOTer has replied on the Championship Ryze feedback thread. There were no changes also. His hood color looks weird, and also the splash art's Scroll is kinda TOO BIG compared to the in-game model. The golden choma changes were satisfying, at least.
: I unfortunately have not been a fan of the soft yellow hair used on Golden Chromas. A change that happened after CS Ashe's Golden Chroma's release once they became a regular event-related collectible feature. Championship Ashe's Golden Chroma has white hair and I believe it is the best looking Golden Chroma out of any Golden chroma released thus far due to this difference in hair color. I'm sure others can agree with me on this that white hair is more... bad ass, epic-looking, and impactful than that soft yellow that blends too much with the gold parts of the armor/clothing on the rest of the skin which is usually a bright yellow instead of gold. Two perfect examples of this bright yellow are Snow Day Bard and Graves' golden Chromas. I believe that creating a nice contrast where the white hair hightlights the golden tones and viceversa would add the oomph that Championship Ashe's Golden Chroma has to the rest of the skins with Golden Chromas, such as Ryze's in this instance, and as a result entice more players to try and obtain these "special" chromas. That, and perhaps changing the brown tertiary color on Golden Chromas. How about a dark gray/silver or dark navy/purple instead? (Think Victorious Graves color combinations, the colors had great contrast between each other which made the skin and its chromas pop more). I believe that several skins that already have the golden chroma could also use a retroactive update to bring them up to CS Ashe's golden chroma's standard. Some of these are Conqueror Ahri, Nidalee, and Varus. I realize this may not be done so instead I'd appreciate if this feedback was taken into consideration moving forward with these Golden Chromas. Golden Chromas should be to regular chromas what Prestige Edition Skins are to regular skins.
I agree. Ryze is too gold-ish. You should do the same thing you did to Katarina's golden chroma. It's one of my favorites! Change the colors to White and Gold, but keeping both colors "there". https://i.redd.it/zljplkbd6ab21.png
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Immortal Journey & Championship Ryze Chromas!
I would kepp Ryze's beard white. It's way better. Also the white looks silver-ish. i'd keep it as light as the original one, so the skin won't look SO much gold-ish. Also, maybe keep the blue pants. Blue + Gold matches with his new skill effects.
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Championship Ryze!
First off, thanks riot for the skin. I love Ryze! I really like the model, it's great! I like "tight clothes" on high-mobile champions. The sound effects are great (metallic), the skill coloring is also great (the empowered W tho). That ultimate looks SICK! Love it. But, I didn't like the armor coloting. His hood is white, but nothing else he's wearing is. It's a mixture of brown, silver and blue. I'd definitely change his left shoulder and maybe left arm armor to white (same color as the scroll), his "belt" to white.. so the hood would be more fitting to the whole idea. Looks like he just grabbed any piece of armor he's found and put in together. Or maybe just change his hood to silver. The recall: When he unfolds the scroll, it doesn't move. You should add an "unfold" movement to it so it doesn't look weird. And fireworks? Kinda meh, i'd agree. He should absolutely cast a throne (he's one of Riot's most simbolic champions. When you think "league of legends" you always think Ryze, not only for the memes). It's just... fireworks are kinda meh (and we already have firework-like recall/animations for the Chinese event). Thanks for reading and I hope there are changes
: Hello again! Sorry for being so presistent but like I have already stated, I've waited a long time for this skin, and I just want it to look it's absolute best! I realized that some of the things I have been asking for are straying a bit too far from the original model, and could therefore prove a bit difficult to do. Because of this I decided to sit down and look at the model and try to figure out what it is that seems so weird about it. Thanks to Rayneomon I realized that the model and the splash art have very different colours and looks. For example as I have stated before, the glasses (or goggles) Heimer is wearing have very different shapes, if you compare them. therefore, I have tried to change the model to resemble the one in the splash a lot more, and I think it looks a lot better. Although I want to emphasize that this might just be my opinion, and I dont want to just complain all the time to the team who have worked on the skin. I REALLY, REALLY like almost everything about it, the jokes and taunts are some of the best in the game ( I especially like the one where Heimer faceplants, gives me a giggle every time ). I just want to bring out the tiny problems I have with the skin that you could try to fix. https://i.imgur.com/IvHFoEx.png I added the happy eyes that Heimer has on the splash, they're just so adorable! I also added a bit of smouldering to his moustache. Gotta burn that hair! His gloves are a browner colour, like in the splash, his glasses are more golden, and curved right. The crown is darker on the top and fiery at the bottom, and last but not least, his ears have blue hair on top, just like the splash. Also, due to the request of TheRealYuma, I decided to change the eyes on the turret dragons to, as Yuma put it, make them look less than chickens, and more like the one you can see in the splash art. Please tell me if that's the look you want Yuma or if they should be changed even more. https://i.imgur.com/TRsTorC.png Thank you for your time!
Heimer's glasses have to be more pointy sideways to match the splash. Also, Heimer's hair could be blue-ish like the splash. Royal Blue. And abut the turrets: https://www.babyanimalzoo.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/baby-cockatoo.jpg Riot can fix that
: Hey Moloman!! I can see you are very passionate about Heimer, especially this skin :D Love to see that For the Model Change, we feel like the change is lateral. Personally I like that the yellow glasses don't blend in as much. For the eyes on the turret dragons, the red eye markings make the dragon turrets popout more. Removing it will have gameplay implications -- nobody wants to get hurt by something they accidentally don't see. And these babeh dragons pack a helluva punch! Thanks for all the time you've put into this thread :)
So we agree the turrets have an issue of color and shape. That's why most people are saying "change it to the shape of the dragon in heimer's head" And if the problem is the color, then change where the dragon is standing to something more clear (maybe an egg? A nest?) and fix the baby dragon's shape/color so it can look more like a dragon instead of a baby chicken. This is a fantasy game, things don't have to make sense, so be creative! We know you can do it.
: I want to start this discussion off by saying that I have been a Heimerdinger main for a very long time and that I actually created a very rough concept for this skin back in 2015, here's some proof: https://i.imgur.com/5VFnX6K.jpg The one we got is of course much better than my sketch but something i find very off with the skin is the "dragon crown" that heimer is wearing on his forehead. https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-YU0Jqpk83bA/W6qhSIqKAsI/AAAAAAABH5o/5KPToeAz73suD-ZotpV1-J7dR8fODKefgCLcBGAs/s640/heimer.jpg https://cdna.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/001/489/400/large/victor-maury-dragontrainertristanaforweb.jpg?1530231865 If we dive deep into the dragontrainer skins and look at what tristana is wearing, we can see that she's wearing kind of medieval looking adventurish clothes that has nothing to do with dragons, which creates this cool match between the dragon and her, like the match with Hiccup and Toothless in how to train your dragon, two parts that make one. But with Heimerdinger they for some reason put in this weird dragon crown that mixes him with the dragons creating this blend of both dragon and trainer which looks really weird. Why is he wearing it? Did he kill a dragon to be able to craft it? Adding to that is the fact that Pythagora (the dragon) mixes her colour with the crown and blending them together. I have created some prototypes for "headgear" that would not only look better but also provide a reason for it being there in the first place. One of them is a little climbing structure that helps support Pythagora so she has something to lean on (i took inspiration from the structures the turret dragons stand on) and the other is a tiny viking helmet, giving Heimer a more believable "medieval" feel to him that seems missing. https://i.imgur.com/KjSZwE9.jpg https://i.imgur.com/dFbg5VC.jpg This might be hard to change and some might not want it to change but looking at that crown makes me think dragonslayer, not dragontrainer, and it just makes the skin feels a bit off for me. I just want this skin to be the absolute best it can, since it will probably be the best heimer skin of all time! Tell me your thoughts please!
> [{quoted}](name=MoloMan,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=UHzYsj0o,comment-id=000a,timestamp=2018-09-27T07:11:06.809+0000) > > I want to start this discussion off by saying that I have been a Heimerdinger main for a very long time and that I actually created a very rough concept for this skin back in 2015, here's some proof: > https://i.imgur.com/5VFnX6K.jpg > > The one we got is of course much better than my sketch but something i find very off with the skin is the "dragon crown" that heimer is wearing on his forehead. > https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-YU0Jqpk83bA/W6qhSIqKAsI/AAAAAAABH5o/5KPToeAz73suD-ZotpV1-J7dR8fODKefgCLcBGAs/s640/heimer.jpg > > https://cdna.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/001/489/400/large/victor-maury-dragontrainertristanaforweb.jpg?1530231865 > If we dive deep into the dragontrainer skins and look at what tristana is wearing, we can see that she's wearing kind of medieval looking adventurish clothes that has nothing to do with dragons, which creates this cool match between the dragon and her, like the match with Hiccup and Toothless in how to train your dragon, two parts that make one. > > But with Heimerdinger they for some reason put in this weird dragon crown that mixes him with the dragons creating this blend of both dragon and trainer which looks really weird. Why is he wearing it? Did he kill a dragon to be able to craft it? Adding to that is the fact that Pythagora (the dragon) mixes her colour with the crown and blending them together. > > I have created some prototypes for "headgear" that would not only look better but also provide a reason for it being there in the first place. One of them is a little climbing structure that helps support Pythagora so she has something to lean on (i took inspiration from the structures the turret dragons stand on) and the other is a tiny viking helmet, giving Heimer a more believable "medieval" feel to him that seems missing. > https://i.imgur.com/KjSZwE9.jpg > https://i.imgur.com/dFbg5VC.jpg > > This might be hard to change and some might not want it to change but looking at that crown makes me think dragonslayer, not dragontrainer, and it just makes the skin feels a bit off for me. I just want this skin to be the absolute best it can, since it will probably be the best heimer skin of all time! > Tell me your thoughts please! I love the ideia of an Egg. #ritoplz Like the turrets lv 1 are dragons inside the egg and lv 5 a dragon like the one in heimer's head. That would me great
: The horns seemed weird to me too. (Why does he have dragon horns if he's befriending, not killing them?) I thought maybe their mother died so he put them on his head to trick them into thinking he was their mother. I don't think the recolors above quite fix the problem. I think it's more of an overall shape problem. Heimer looks way too top-heavy in this skin. Even more than usual - considering he originally looked like a massive walking brain. Now he also has a fairly big dragon on top. I'd like to see the model adjusted to look more like the splash art. His face seems better proportioned and cuter. His mustache is upright rather than floppy. His horns have a nicer shape (more upwards instead of outwards hiding the ears which are visible in the splash art). The colors on the model seem a little too busy as well.
> [{quoted}](name=Rayneomon,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=UHzYsj0o,comment-id=000a00000000,timestamp=2018-09-27T16:26:17.558+0000) > > The horns seemed weird to me too. (Why does he have dragon horns if he's befriending, not killing them?) I thought maybe their mother died so he put them on his head to trick them into thinking he was their mother. > > I don't think the recolors above quite fix the problem. I think it's more of an overall shape problem. Heimer looks way too top-heavy in this skin. Even more than usual - considering he originally looked like a massive walking brain. Now he also has a fairly big dragon on top. I'd like to see the model adjusted to look more like the splash art. His face seems better proportioned and cuter. His mustache is upright rather than floppy. His horns have a nicer shape (more upwards instead of outwards hiding the ears which are visible in the splash art). > > The colors on the model seem a little too busy as well. I think his hair could be a bit bigger and blue-ish like the splash. The horns really don't bother me. He could've taken them from a already dead dragon (or maybe it's wood yay) But what really needs to change is that turret. God those red eyes are so weird! Chicken Trainer Heimerdinger
: He's holding a meat and a dogbone treat thing http://www.sireasgallery.com/iconset/dont-starve/Ham_Bat_256x256_32.png https://shop-cdn-m.shpp.ext.zooplus.io/bilder/barkoo/knotted/bone/7/400/56948_barkoo_kauknochen_geknotet_web_7.jpg
> [{quoted}](name=MoloMan,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=UHzYsj0o,comment-id=000800000000,timestamp=2018-09-27T17:38:05.348+0000) > > He's holding a meat and a dogbone treat thing > http://www.sireasgallery.com/iconset/dont-starve/Ham_Bat_256x256_32.png > https://shop-cdn-m.shpp.ext.zooplus.io/bilder/barkoo/knotted/bone/7/400/56948_barkoo_kauknochen_geknotet_web_7.jpg Ik, just find it weird. I really wouldn't care if they didn't change it but the mini turrets.. oh god. Please change them!
Rioter Comments
: I found the dragon turrets a bit hard to see on Twisted Treeline. I think it would look better if the eggs has little hextech incubators on the bottoms. Like when they hatch they have incubator platforms. The dialog and animations is all really excellent. I feel like there's maybe too many different dragons though? I thought the turret dragons were going to look like the red one on his head. Finally, I think Chromas are a good idea as this skin blends into the TT background so much.
Heimer having many different dragons is great. Makes the skin even better. I also hope they change the mini turrets to like the shape of the dragon in his head or maybe like the splash
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Dragon Trainer Heimerdinger!
I loved the skin a lot (i used it for like 5 hours straight in PBE) BUT *WE* have some issues/ideas: 1 - What is Heimer holding? Ok ONE bone is fine but 2 is lack of creativity. Bothers me to see a cooked chicken leg. Maybe e magnifying glass? 2 - The mini turret looks more like a baby chicken than a baby dragon. What's with those eyes? Heimer is punching them poor baby dragons? 3 - Maybe the mini turrets could evolve per level. I loved the idea of different dragons. But, again... DRAGONS! Leave the chickens to Azir. 4 - Yes, the mini turrets and Heimer have the same color, that makes things too monochromatic. You could use those dragons from the dance as turrets or maybe the same dragon as the splash art which is purple-ish (different from heimer's hair which is blue-ish) 5 - I think Heimer should juggle the eggs when we press S (to stand). I love that animation 6 - Yes, there could be chromas but make them worth it (maybe changing the turret's shape and color too) 7 - We (heimer players) have been waiting for this skin for a long LONG time. So it's fine for us to ask for improvements. Im willing to spend 1820 + border + icon + chromas for heimer but i REALLY hope it is worth it! Thank you for the skin, but thank you MORE if you listen to our feedback. (click the image and check ou) https://imgur.com/lSDXcnz

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