: Huge Update to the model and vfx textures here: https://twitter.com/Sirhaian/status/1113617410580344832 There are additional gifs in above link as well to view what some of her new spell/kit VFX look like as well, however I strongly urge you try her out ingame on PBE :) Cheers! -Kiwi
The Empowered Whiplash is still too white looking I think. It would be nice if it was possible to tone it down just a little more. And I saw the changes to the Q but they are more gray looking than blue imo. How would it be if the tip of the spikes were more like the new lashes. Like this: https://i.imgur.com/yWLTtgc.png[/img] Ok maybe not like this I am horrible at editing so I just painted over it but you get the idea. The classic Q was already in golden and I know that the Prestige changes the gold tone a little but the Q spikes come and go like in a second anyways so it would be nice if we could get a more noticeable change/color. Not sure how it would look, just a suggestion. Again, thanks for listening to our feedback! Edit: Seeing the abilities getting their fair share of this new blue I wanted to see how the W could be changed accordingly. Not sure if better but for anyone wondering how the W would look in blue: https://i.imgur.com/i8i3OlF.png[/img]
: Hey guys, just wanted to update that we are listening and taking in all your feedback, and are very appreciative. We're working on her lasher and overall model colors to be blue and a different type of yellow, respectively. We're also addressing the feedback on the empowered E not looking different enough as well. **WORK IN PROGRESS** https://i.imgur.com/7CEwV9Z.png **WORK IN PROGRESS** Thanks for the continued patience and I'll have an update tonight or tomorrow. {{summoner:31}} The update should show many things including various vfx tweaks. I want to point out here that Q VFX will not be a monotonous gold as commented, too.
Yay, they look really nice! I think the Empowered Whiplash (E) glow is too white though. Would you also consider adding that blue color to her abilities as well? And maybe even some small tweaks to the outfit and hair to make her look more diva/Evelynn, like some fur, lace or leather? Or changing the gold tone like you did with Ahri to make it more unique to her? I know I am asking for a lot :D Loving the changes, thanks for listening to our feedback!
: She actually does have blue/purple glasses in demon shade, but because her hair is so brightly glowing you can barely tell
You’re right, thanks. I realised that later on.
: Heya TaricBestGirl! I'm really glad you're enjoying the IG skins, we put a lot of hard work into making them as awesome as possible! To answer your concern, the reason why Rakan was chosen without Xayah is because the players will request the champion they want for their skin (so long as they could play said champion during Worlds), and so Baolan requested that Rakan be his represented champion. That means that we had to leave Xayah without a skin as Kai'sa was chosen by Jackylove. Hope this clears things up! -Riot GrumboJr
Oh, I understand! I just checked him out and apparently he played Alistar, Braum and Rakan. Looking at the other two I guess it is understandable why he picked him. But maybe there should've been a rule that both Xayah and Rakan have to get a skin at the same time or because he just got one he can't be picked this year. I understand I guess. But a Braum skin would be dope though!
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: K/DA Evelynn Prestige Edition!
FINALLY, the last one is here! I will just quickly say what I **like** - **don't like** and **the changes I would like to see**: **LIKE:** * Her new thick and velvet-y lashes. **DON'T LIKE:** * The lack of color. Both on her model and abilities. * Her hair. * She doesn't seem to have that bossy, diva, sexy look anymore. She seems more mild and doesn't excite me as much. *** **THE CHANGES I WOULD LIKE TO SEE:** * Color wise she is quite boring imo. It might be a little too much gold like the old Prestige K/DA Ahri, so tone it down a little or maybe change the color to a rose/peach gold or something similar to make it more unique and exciting. The normal one had **Primary: **purple **Secondary: **gold as her colors. Now she is fully golden and because she had that color on her a lot already there is not much you can do right now. So I suggest adding her a secondary color: a diamond-ish blue, like Prestige K/DA Akali's weapon. The gems on her lashes would look better in that color I think. https://i.imgur.com/vcOZF1r.png[/img] * I think her wild, sassy, diva look is a little lost. It's like she doesn't have the same character anymore. The problem are her outfits, not the color, though it surely effects as well. I just don't think Evelynn would wear these, she looks out of character. I would imagine her wearing something more... brave. Not sure what kind of changes could be made to them. Maybe some fur, lace or leather? Her hair definitely needs some sort of a change too. Anything that would make her look better and more Evelynn. https://i.imgur.com/HlcEF8m.jpg[/img] * Since her Q was already golden there is not much or almost no changes to that right now. Like I said, I suggest adding some diamond blue (or whatever it's called) to them. Her Empowered Whiplash glow is also not obvious enough, so making her lash gems glow in blue would be nice. https://i.imgur.com/0l556aA.png[/img] https://i.imgur.com/yWLTtgc.png[/img] * Not saying it's better but seeing that other abilities started to get some of this new blue I wondered how the W would look so I did this: https://i.imgur.com/i8i3OlF.png[/img] * Her passive frame effect is changed to gold but according to the changes above it would be nice to add some blue to it as well, considering everything is just too much golden. Her model shade/glow should have that color as well. Like her glasses could glow in blue because right now they’re not obvious enough and they are the most iconic thing about her. I would also like if her hair glowed less. You could also consider changing or adding something to her passive music. https://i.imgur.com/W5KEe1b.png[/img] Thanks for taking you time.
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Invictus Gaming Skins
These team skins get better every year and these are my personal favorites! The color scheme and everything looks really neat. The wings are amazing, especially the one on Camille E. My only somewhat problem is that, why did Rakan get a skin without Xayah? I thought it was their thing and I found it really cool. Wish you guys didn't change that. Also the fact that he just got SSG makes this skin even more unexpected.
: KDA Evelynn Prestige Colors
She immediately needs a change in her hair. And imo they removed the gimmick of the skin: her glasses. Just why remove it? Give her a different one, a cooler one but at least give her something.
: Ghost Poro > Eyeball Collection?
I think that there is not much variety in D3 with these changes. All three runes are just too similar now.
: Hey TricolorStar! Thanks for the breakdown of the feedback. I've been collecting feedback to give to the team and will be sure to pass this along to them! It might be difficult for us to address the sports-themed champion interactions, but that would be a very cool idea! Keep on being awesome! {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}} -Riot GrumboJr
I guess we are not awesome enough ;-; {{sticker:sg-soraka}}
: Ok, here we go again. We have so outstanding themes for the most popular champions, like K/DA, Arcade, Star Guardians. You guys said you WANT to bring back some thematics to game, thats OK. BUT, Ivern never had another skin after his release, and... THIS IS "THE SKIN YOU GUYS WILL LOVE IT"? As an Ivern main, i REALLY feel betrayed, cause i expecting some dark and perverse stuff, like Perverse Lulu. OK, OK, i know you would like to keep some Silly personality with him, yeah yeah. But, there's so many possibilities to bring incredible things for a champion who's shines with an colorful aura. Unfortunally, "Drunk"master Ivern doesn't bring it to us. Lazy SFX, poor VFX (reusing K/DA Ahri particles on his basic attacks) and just an outfit to base ivern. Nothing... "new". Maybe Illaoi or Pyke would fit better with Dunkmaster theme. You guys made me feel more disappointed than Mech Aurelion Sol. Hope you rethink about this concept and roll back this to make a voting, like you did with Illaoi and Tristana. {{sticker:zombie-nunu-tears}} Edit: Demon theme fits more in Ivern than Tristy, just saying. :^)
I think you pointed out something really nice by saying “The coolest themes go to the most popular champions.” Not only they get skins frequently, they also get the highest quality skins and the coolest themes. What everyone is trying to say is that, this skin wouldn’t be as much of a problem if he would just get another one soon. But we all know that he won’t get one for another 2 years. That’s why this skin should’ve been a cool theme. This skin is just a quite boring, basic sports skin. You can give him the coolest effects but the the skin itself is not good enough to amuse people for 2-3 more years. Whereas a champion like Ahri keeps on getting the coolest skins, quite frequently at that. I understand that it’s hard to make a skin for Ivern, but while making him one at least make the best that you can. Same with Aurelion Sol and every other unpopular champion. It’s not their fault that they’re unpopular, it’s Riot’s fault. They’re the ones who design them and balance them. Ivern is a awkward, hard to play champion. If anything, they should be glad that someone out there is at least playing him. It’s not the champions’ fault that they are unpopular. They probably even forget about some of them from time to time. But lets say Ahri, Yasuo or Jhin is always under the spotlight and is never forgotten. They get skins like K/DA, Project, Blood Moon etc. Well, they’re popular because YOU DESIGNED THEM SO! How hard could it be to give 1 cool skin to an unpopular champion. Like, if a Ivern skin wasn’t going to sell much because there aren’t many players of him, now it’s only going to sell less because it’s higly disliked. And there are a lot of cases where people just buy a skin because it’s cool, even though they have never played the champ before. If the skin was interesting it would only help introduce more people to the champion. These are at least what I believe in. Also I would like to add that I am not an Ivern main. God, I don’t even remember the last time I played or even seen him. I used to play him a lot when he first came out. I think I played him until reaching lv5 mastery because I love supporting and wanted to try this new “happy jungle support”. Anyways, what I try to accomplish here is that, I also play a lot of unpopular champions, like ASol (but he got the same treatment as Ivern). And I am scared to go through all these when the time comes for them to also get a skin. I want unpopular champions to also get well designed, cools skins like they deserve. I don’t even mind waiting for years if the skin is going to be amazing. If possible next time ask the players or just look at fan arts or anything that would give you an idea of what the players expect so that we don’t get disappointed later on. I think the right solution right know is to keep this skin as it is and publish it to the live servers because doesn’t matter we like it or not people worked on it and it’s here as a whole. BUT give people a promise for another Ivern skin later this year that will fit their taste. I believe that this is the only fair way for everyone to be happy. Also sorry if anything I said was rude/wrong.
: Im an ivern main since his release and im not disappointed, so its definitely not 100%, not to mention the owner of the ivern MAINS discord himself said he thought it was a decent skin that needed a touch up on here, but you fuckwads downvoted it to hell because you’d rather WAAAAHHHHHHHHHH then actually give some constructive criticism for the skin they put on the table right now. I’m 100% for an awesome theme Ivern skin, the void one would probably be one of my favorite skins of all time, but I recognize one of those skins is COMING so I’m more than happy to have a more lighthearted skin in the meantime.
Wow, you’re quite an angry person for an Ivern main aren’t you :D
: Dude leona got 2 in the same patch lol
Not exactly the same case though. Her skins were variants and Leona is quite popular. Whereas it would be a miracle for Ivern to get even 1 Legendary, or even any skin really. And everyone, you as well seeing you’re an Ivern main yourself, would like his Legendary be a darker theme like let’s say Coven/Old God. Because with his current animations and voice lines it would be impossible to make such a skin. I have been seeing a lot about a Voidbringer Ivern skin as well, that skin could actually be a 1350rp skin. Just remove the voiceover and add zombie-ish sounds. So many cool ideas are floating around.
: how to improve Dunkmaster Ivern change to 1820RP. running/walking Ivern is dribbling a basketball passive ability: a whistle blows, a basketball floats in the middle of the camp, audience claps SFX. q skill: ivern chest passes a basketball to an enemy; on enemy champion(s), a basketball net appear on top of them, clicking on these enemy champion(s) causes allies to dash and attack, the basketball net mark has a ball drop through it and makes a SWOOSH SFX, disappears. w skill: the bush has thunderclappers shaking, camera flashes, foam hands waving, signs, an Dunkmaster Ivern Jersey shaking. Ivern's AAs in the bush, him shooting 3 pointers. e skill: the sounds of basketball shoes squeeking on wooden floors, 3 miniature DM Iverns dribbling around allied champions before performing an alleyoop straight up and disappearing. r skill: golem is summoned dribbling a ball, golem basic attack is him bouncing ball off of enemies, golem knocks up enemies with a wave of basketballs.
I believe people would break into Riot HQ and burn the building down if his Legendary was this. He only has 1 chance for a Legendary you know :/
: yeh it definitely needs a bit more ive seen other ideas floaying around like replacing the link of chain in her Q with a gingerbread man or her pool into batter as well
: This skin reminded me of Wilt from Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends with his awkwardly tall body and the basketball uniform, he is just in greens not red :p. https://i.imgur.com/aY5rB7C.png[/img] He is tall and skinny so he does look like a basketball player in a way, BUT THAT'S IT! Nothing about him fits this theme. You shouldn't give such a skin to a champion who doesn’t even have a “dunk” ability. This theme is more fitting for someone like Illaoi, Draven, Vi or even Jarvan who literally got a skin the same patch. Or any champion who is like Darius, who goes for big flashy kills. Also it has been like what, 3 years? People have been waiting forever for something good and exiting. This being his first skin... I understand why it's hated by majority. But I also understand why it was chosen. The release skin was quite colorful, silly and appealed more to candy lovers :p. I understand that Riot tries to balance the skins by choosing something different but this ain't it. It doesn't fit him at all and is incredibly underwhelming. It shouldn't be forgotten that champions like Ivern don't get much attention. God knows how long it will take for him to get a good skin that people will like. If only he was like Ahri or Lux. But you had all the time in the world. After seeing all those cool fan arts and concepts for years we all were really pumped up. Wish you guys thought more about it. A different, more exiting theme for a champ and his players who waited for soo soo long... It looks underwhelming, sorry. I still can't believe this is an actual skin, it looks fake imo. And I wish he looked better and different visually. Even compared to Candy King this skin is bad. It's just him in a basketball uniform and a new hair. I'm sorry to say this but he looks underwhelming :/ You should at least made Daisy a cheerleader smh. Champions like Ivern, Aurelion Sol and Illaoi are all champs who have a small player base thus get really small attention. They hardly get 1 skin in 3 years, whereas some get 3 in 1 year. While giving skins to them you should do more research about what the players want, what they expect because they will always have high expectations. This is a really sensitive topic for the players of such champions. I hope you guys give more care and attention to them in the future. P.S.: After waiting for so long and all the teasing I thought we were going to get a legendary Coven Ivern skin, like the one in your artwork. I will be waiting for this one: https://i.imgur.com/ZompLwL.jpg[/img]
Ivern mains even started a [petition](https://www.change.org/p/riot-games-we-want-a-new-ivern-skin-and-scrap-the-current-work-of-dunkmaster-ivern).
: Experimental ARAM Changes on PBE
As someone who plays ARAM a lot, these changes sound really nice! I will be trying them out in a minute. A little off topic but, speaking for myself I like and prefer quick and fun modes like ARAM more than SR. I am bored of SR actually. I like being able to pick my favorite champions, do all kinds of stupid things and go wild with different, stupid builds that you wouldn't be able to in SR. I know SR is what this game is all about but this is personally where I have my fun in LOL. They are also really quick, so even if you're going bad, losing or have an AFK you can end and start a new one quicker. People are also less toxic since it's just for fun. These are why I love such game modes so I wanted to say thanks for doing some changes and caring for ARAM. I would also like to ask a few questions. * Like I said, I love and almost only play modes like these. Any plans on adding such modes permanently to the game? Like, how is Nexus Blitz going? Any plans on adding it permanently? Even though I like it a lot, my biggest problem with ARAM is that we can not pick our desired champions. Nexus Blitz was really fun for me because of this. So I really hope it stays permanently. * Will we ever see the weekly rotating game modes back? I really liked that feature. * After the ARAM changes, any plans on doing some for The Twisted Treeline? What are your thoughts about it? I really like the map visually. Thematically the coolest and most beautiful map in the game, but it needs some love. Thanks in advance!
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: DUNKMASTER IVERN
This skin reminded me of Wilt from Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends with his awkwardly tall body and the basketball uniform, he is just in greens not red :p. https://i.imgur.com/aY5rB7C.png[/img] He is tall and skinny so he does look like a basketball player in a way, BUT THAT'S IT! Nothing about him fits this theme. You shouldn't give such a skin to a champion who doesn’t even have a “dunk” ability. This theme is more fitting for someone like Illaoi, Draven, Vi or even Jarvan who literally got a skin the same patch. Or any champion who is like Darius, who goes for big flashy kills. Also it has been like what, 3 years? People have been waiting forever for something good and exiting. This being his first skin... I understand why it's hated by majority. But I also understand why it was chosen. The release skin was quite colorful, silly and appealed more to candy lovers :p. I understand that Riot tries to balance the skins by choosing something different but this ain't it. It doesn't fit him at all and is incredibly underwhelming. It shouldn't be forgotten that champions like Ivern don't get much attention. God knows how long it will take for him to get a good skin that people will like. If only he was like Ahri or Lux. But you had all the time in the world. After seeing all those cool fan arts and concepts for years we all were really pumped up. Wish you guys thought more about it. A different, more exiting theme for a champ and his players who waited for soo soo long... It looks underwhelming, sorry. I still can't believe this is an actual skin, it looks fake imo. And I wish he looked better and different visually. Even compared to Candy King this skin is bad. It's just him in a basketball uniform and a new hair. I'm sorry to say this but he looks underwhelming :/ You should at least made Daisy a cheerleader smh. Champions like Ivern, Aurelion Sol and Illaoi are all champs who have a small player base thus get really small attention. They hardly get 1 skin in 3 years, whereas some get 3 in 1 year. While giving skins to them you should do more research about what the players want, what they expect because they will always have high expectations. This is a really sensitive topic for the players of such champions. I hope you guys give more care and attention to them in the future. P.S.: After waiting for so long and all the teasing I thought we were going to get a legendary Coven Ivern skin, like the one in your artwork. I will be waiting for this one: https://i.imgur.com/ZompLwL.jpg[/img]
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Hextech Jarvan IV!
Color wise isn't it a little too similar to Dark Star? Also not much of a fan of the skin line. You should've given him the Dunkmaster skin!
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=TaricBestGirl,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=rHNKLH12,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-03-11T12:37:24.564+0000) > > Riot Orphyre, I tried to ask this before. If I knew you would answer I would have asked this again here. > > I don’t know if you remember, I actually asked about this a few patches ago but her old chromas are named Ebony, Pale and Toxic. All the old, original chromas have names like that. Their names are also shown in the loading screen like a skin name. Will they be changed to fit the newer ones? > Like: Ebony: Obsidian, Toxic: Peridot and Pale: Pearl. > > Would you also mind telling us if there are any updates with [the other questions I asked back then](https://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/client-new-features-feedback/5fABJ2FV-pbe-bugs-feedback-thread-blood-moon-chromas?comment=0001) as well. I and a few more friends would really apreciate it. Thanks in advance. I know the questions are directed at Orphyre, but I can drop some insights in the meantime. Old Chroma Naming Conventions- These are a different line of products directed at a different purpose. though both called chromas, old base skin chromas were aimed at making cheap customization for players that may not want to invest in a full skin. This was not received well. New chromas are a more premium product aimed to provide more options for your favorite skin. To separate the product lines, their naming will remain different. Loading Screen indicators - We have explored this previously, however, the loading screen was in the process of getting an update. Thus, we deferred it till the new loading screen is defined. Chroma is a small part of the loading screen experience and we wouldn't want to push the Loading Screen team to tackle this first before more important Loading Screen features. Is isn't to say that we will not do it in the near future :)
A loading screen indicator would be nice of course but no need to rush it since I understand that the new loading screen is still being worked on. This is a suggestion for clarity anyway. But the old chroma changes is more of a request. They might be old, but they cost the same. At least with the reworks, it would be nice to bring them to todays standarts of chromas with name changes and maybe even some alteration of patterns. Personally I own a lot of those base chromas and I do like them a lot. Not because they’re cheap but some champions have really good base skins that I like to use and having some good color options is nice. Please consider updating them and re-start giving them to some of the champions that have good base skins. I will be waiting for an Aurelion Sol one ;-;
: > [{quoted}](name=TaricBestGirl,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=HjBB4qZf,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-03-07T20:09:12.631+0000) > > To be honest after the previous Prestige skins like Aatrox’s, this skin really hits the spot. I haven’t liked any of them ever since Kai’Sa’s. This is how they should at least look. The crown and crystal trident does make him look prestigious. Hope the newer ones will look even better. > > But the way to receive them is still really wrong. I want to earn this by working hard for it, not by paying a fortune. I think it was okay to buy a pass and grind for it. A lot of people seem to like that way as well. I wonder why you guys changed lt. Because there is no way for me to pay for any of these new Prestlge skins. > > And I also wonder why it was decided to give a Prestige skin to only one side in a VS event, because it’s not really fair. Both of the Team Dog skins already look better in my opinion, and the fact that you guys gave the Prestige skin to their side makes it hard for me to root for Team Cat. Wish we got something as well. This is just my opinion. ;-; I'm glad you feel good about it! We've taken a lot of the feedback from the previous Prestige skins, and are trying to make these skins feel a lot more special than they have in the past. I can't promise that "Prestige" and "Royal" will always align like they have in this skin, but we're always looking for ways to further improve them. I understand where you're coming from about how they're obtained and the feeling that only our Doggo sides got a Prestige version whereas our Cat-friendly side didn't, you make really good points, I'll pass that feedback along to our Store team
They don't have to have a "royal" theme. Kai'Sa doesn't and hers looks amazing as well. My point is that, this skin has some actual visual changes. It looks more than a golden chroma -ahem ahem Aatrox-. I'm glad that you guys added something to the skin besides making its color golden, in this case it's the crown and the crystal trident and in the Kai'Sa one it was the Taylor hair. Considering these skins are the most expensive content in the game I would like more than a bare color change.
: > [{quoted}](name=Hayzal,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=rHNKLH12,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-03-06T12:50:10.398+0000) > > Tiger chroma for rengar pluz and fruit dagger really dont match at all. Are you referring to the Citrine version? What do you think would be a better dagger for him?
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: April Fool’s Chromas!
Riot Orphyre, I tried to ask this before. If I knew you would answer I would have asked this again here. I don’t know if you remember, I actually asked about this a few patches ago but her old chromas are named Ebony, Pale and Toxic. All the old, original chromas have names like that. Their names are also shown in the loading screen like a skin name. Will they be changed to fit the newer ones? Like: Ebony: Obsidian, Toxic: Peridot and Pale: Pearl. Would you also mind telling us if there are any updates with [the other questions I asked back then](https://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/client-new-features-feedback/5fABJ2FV-pbe-bugs-feedback-thread-blood-moon-chromas?comment=0001) as well. I and a few more friends would really apreciate it. Thanks in advance.
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Fuzz Fizz Prestige Edition!
To be honest after the previous Prestige skins like Aatrox’s, this skin really hits the spot. I haven’t liked any of them ever since Kai’Sa’s. This is how they should at least look. The crown and crystal trident does make him look prestigious. Hope the newer ones will look even better. But the way to receive them is still really wrong. I want to earn this by working hard for it, not by paying a fortune. I think it was okay to buy a pass and grind for it. A lot of people seem to like that way as well. I wonder why you guys changed lt. Because there is no way for me to pay for any of these new Prestlge skins. And I also wonder why it was decided to give a Prestige skin to only one side in a VS event, because it’s not really fair. Both of the Team Dog skins already look better in my opinion, and the fact that you guys gave the Prestige skin to their side makes it hard for me to root for Team Cat. Wish we got something as well. This is just my opinion. ;-;
: [CLOSED] PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Meowrick!
Is it possible to make the little passive cats and the big ult cat cuter? They all look like their eyes are closed. Is it possible to give them cute, wide open eyes and some face detail. Especially to the Maiden, she looks odd and creepy. Anything that would make them cute? They are a little too soulless. Also just a general comment about the event. It doesn’t feel like VS at all. You guys are obviously favoring dogs. Their skins are way better and cute (I am a cat person btw). And how is it fair to give a Prestige skin to only one side in a VS event?
: [CLOSED] PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Pretty Kitty Rengar!
Rengar is an obvious choice for this skin line. Though I really like the idea, I don’t think it was implemented right. He is already cat-like so why give him a cat-suit. Maokai, Yorick (and Katarina I guess) all have cat-suits already. It’s a missed opportunity to make him fully a cute cat, like the way you changed Fizz to a dog. Model-wise I dislike the skin. He looks disturbing than cute. And could be because of his hair but the cute cat face on his forehead is not visible enough. Is it also not possible to change his hair in some way? Maybe to something like yarn strings (I don’t know what they are called sorry for my english :P). Or a hoodie? Just anything that would make him cuter. Also for the Rengar mains, the skin really is a little awkward I guess but it’s a April Fools skin. It’s only natural for it to look so, though I understand how you feel. Your concern is that he may not get another skin that would fit your taste for a really long time now that he got this which you’re right he may not. I will copy paste this here as well: Also just a general comment about the event. It doesn’t feel like VS at all. You guys are obviously favoring dogs. Their skins are way better and cute (I am a cat person btw). And how is it fair to give a Prestige skin to only one side in a VS event?
: I honestly agree with everything, the wings and the falling leaves are really important imho, but can we address the fact that the splash looks amateur AF compared to everything else?? Her old Blackthorn splash shows her elegant side and her badass side... The new one is just bad, i'm sorry but there's no other way of putting it. I know that a rioter said it's their favourite splash or whatever, but come on, it's honestly lazy with a huge lack of character compared to her wonderful, glorious old one.
I think that at this point neither the skin nor the splash will get a change unfortunately. I really tried my best to get her old wings, the falling leaves and the W back but it seems they don't want to deal with it anymore. I am really sad. They decreased the skins quality.
: They Say They Won't Add Particles to Sinful Succulence or Blade Mistress.
Sinful Succulence really needed some basic new effects. Baker Pantheon is also a 975rp skin in the same skin line as Sinful Succulence but it has pastry effects. "The skin looks good with base effects." is not really a good reason. It doesn't feel fair to do a special treatment to some but not the others.
: That one and the Heimer one were done before the time when they actually made the legendaries fully updated (which wasnt until they did the Galio update). So those kind of have a pass, especially since Heimer for one got a modern legendary and Im sure Annie will in time. All others will be fully redone in their VGUs as it has been said for various champions.
But what about Firefighter Tristana? It is 1820rp but has a quality of 1350rp. Didn't she got a rework a few years ago?
: Tell me if I am wrong.
Exactly my thoughts, but there is (probably) at least 1 person who reads them. I mean they HAVE to read them. Now people are going to say "But they don't have to write anything. They still take your feedback." True, true. Though I wish they did, they don't have to. But what about the questions that were asked? Are they really that busy? {{sticker:sg-lux-2}}
: I'm not saying your feedback is unwarranted, but Rioters have stated feedback should be beyond just "I don't like this". You should include ideas of what you want or what direction you'd like changes to be in. Like, do you want like a whole storm of those leaves around? Did you like the old effects they should be carried over exactly as they were here? Perhaps you want a more varied type of leaves for each spell?
Of course I know that. That's why I wrote [this](https://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/client-new-features-feedback/2zqBFIHW-blackthorn-morgana-feedback-please-fix-the-skin). But pretty much what you just said, yeah. The old effects were better. Not saying they should just copy paste them but similar would be nice. The old W for instance was soo much better. And the old wings. They were the whole gimmick.
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: I understand where you're coming from, but they don't need to respond to take feedback into consideration.
But they used to. People put their heart and soul into these. They really want the best for their beloved champions. I for example, have been refreshing the page ever since day 1 with the hope of some answers. It would be nice to now if they read them or not. I personally want them to answer our questions or tell us what they think about it. Also, they do seem to answer on Twitter but I don't use it. They're just absent this patch.
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: I actually can't agree with this more. I wish they just changed the splash art honestly. In my opinion the OLD splash art was and still is much better than the new one. She just looks so badass in the old one, and this was my all-time favourite skin & splash but they lowkey ruined it for me. My main complaints are: 1- Splash art. 2- FALLING LEAVES when she walks / Autumn-Tree-Wings (New dragon wings are just not visually appealing) 3- effects aren't polished enough - old E had more elegant autumn leaves. 4- DEATH ANIMATION - hello? how can you even remove it?? I ---REALLY--- hope they change this skin and make it much nicer... :/
Yeah, I agree. When you look at her in-game colors it seems like they wanted to stay true to the original. But they LITERALLY changed everything else about the skin that made it loved by people, the most important one being her old wings. This is not the old skin anymore. If they want to change it to a complately new skin than they should do it propeely by changing the colors as well.
: Sorry to ask, but is there any news about #2?
Doesn’t seem so, no. But I will try to ask them again.
: [CLOSED] PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Arclight Brand, Kayle & Morgana Chromas!
Is it possible to make Morgana’s old/base chromas 1BE as well like you did with the skins? Also, I don’t know if you remember, I actually asked about this a few patches ago but her old chromas are named Ebony, Pale and Toxic. All the old, original chromas have names like that. Their names are also shown in the loading screen like a skin name. Will they be changed to fit the newer ones? **Like:** Ebony: Obsidian, Toxic: Peridot and Pale: Pearl. Would you also mind telling us if there are any updates with [the other questions I asked back then](https://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/client-new-features-feedback/5fABJ2FV-pbe-bugs-feedback-thread-blood-moon-chromas?comment=0001) as well. I and a few more friends would really apreciate it. Thanks in advance.
: I have to disagree on the colors. The original Blackthorn was mostly crimson with some oranges and pinks. The splashart is pretty much incorrect and very misleading. Just see the original splash art, it displays the intended colors for the skin. [Just check the splash](http://www.strategyzero.com/images/LoL/SplashArt/Morgana_Splash_4.jpg)
Exactly, but the in-game model of the skin is too dragon-like. The old skin had those amazing wings. They were the whole gimmick of the skin. They removed all the leaves for some reason. But these new upper wings look like dragon wings and her "tail" looks really reptilian, now add these colors and it looks like Dragon Sorceress Morgana. Nothing about the skin looks autumn or forest now. VFX are not the only problem with the skin. Wish the Rioters would at least give us, the people on the boards, some answers like they do in Twitter. It feels like they don't check out here anymore.
: I think your edit with matching the splash art more looks absolutely gorgeous, but I do want it to look like the old skin with the same color scheme. I think your edit would be a fabulous chroma as the pink + her red hair really makes the skin pop.
That red hair was accidental lmao. That was the only part I couldn’t really match the splash so I left it that way. I really don’t know how to fix it jsjdj. And yes! The old skin looked better with those branch like wings that had leaves and with her old big dress that had thorns all over it. But this new one doesn’t look like the old one at all. It look too dragon-y. And like I said, the splash art’s colors are different for some reason. When I first saw the splash I thought they changed the theme and colors. But the in-game version has the old ones. And they look odd on her new model. If not the skin, the splash art needs a change.
: UPDATE: Riot heard our feedback: https://www.reddit.com/r/MorganaMains/comments/at90m5/we_did_it/ Bless Riot, I can't wait to see it
: [FEEDBACK] Bewitched Morgana's Bottom Wings (And more details)
Apparently the "tail" is supposed to be her chained wings. But the thing is they should be smaller because they are closed. But for some reason they look bigger when closed. And for wings, their movement and look is just too similar to a wolf tail. It should be more obvious that they're wings. When I first saw it I thought that was her hair, that they made it really really long like Rapunzel. Your version does look better. You can at least tell what it is. But I think they still should be smaller.
: Blackthorn Morgana various changes request
I agree with you about the skin color. It's really green and looks bad.
: I wanted to talk about the ultimate, this obligation to make an item (Zhonya's) to use the ultimate does not make any sense, why not give her a shield when she releases the ultimate? And of course the speed of movement. {{sticker:sg-janna}}
I agree on that Zhonya’s is pretty much a part of her ultimate. She relies on it too much. She is a squishy mage whose ult requires her to dive into a bunch of enemies and survive until they are stunned. But the movement speed buff is definitely nice to have.
: I strongly disagree with the color changes that you're proposing (I'd rather keep the current ones which are the same as the original Blackthorn Morgana), but I do support the demands to touch up her vfx and reinstate the old death animation.
I totally understand why you like the old color, so did I until the rework. You see, I am not really proposing a different color out of nowhere. I just say that the colors in the splash art and in-game are totally different. One of them must be tweaked to match the other and I would prefer changing the in-game one. The splash art looks really good. Edit: I just edited the skin to (somewhat :p) match the splash art. I mean, of course it’s your opinion but don’t you think it looks better that way.
: Morgana Gameplay Feedback
I will just copy-pasta this on here as well. I really need this to be seen. The original one is [here](https://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/client-new-features-feedback/2zqBFIHW-blackthorn-morgana-feedback-please-fix-the-skin). Also really sorry to post this here but we are not given any threads to discuss the reworked skins. Hello! Like everyone else in here I have been waiting for the Kayle & Morgana rework for quite some time now, especially Morgana. Everything looks nice and all but I have huge problems with the Blackthorn Morgana skin. Hello! Like everyone else in here I have been waiting for the Kayle & Morgana rework for quite some time now, especially Morgana. Everything looks nice and all but I have huge problems with the Blackthorn Morgana skin. This skin has been always special to me and I have always wanted this skin to get an update. I just can't describe how much I care for this skin. Like, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO ME. I mean yeah, I guess it always looked a little bad I mean it was an old skin but I love the theme. I liked what it could be rather than what it was I guess. I knew that one day she would get a rework and this skin would end up being the best one. I always believed in this skin lol. So, when I saw the new splash art I was amazed. Was not disappointed at all. But when I saw it in-game... It wasn’t what I had seen in the splash art. https://i.imgur.com/ckcrGd9.jpg[/img] The skin looks beautiful but way different in the splash art. The skin's theme seems to have changed. It has more spring vibes than autumn now. https://i.imgur.com/ll2ByFJ.png[/img] And this is how it looks in-game. The colors are totally off. They're similar to the old. Definitely not the same colors as the splash art. https://i.imgur.com/o5RbjLt.jpg[/img] lolol So I tried editing for the very first time so very very sorry, but if it's going to match the splash art it should look something similar to this one up here. I even tried to tweak the skin color a little, it was too green. I know the old one had a similar skin color but that doesn't mean it was good. It looks like she has plague. (The red hair is accidental. That is the only part I couldn’t really match the splash so I left it that way and I really don’t know how to fix it ksjdkd.) https://i.imgur.com/1FlpjKs.png[/img] And here is a side by side comparison of all three. The in-game model doesn't look like the splash at all. And like I said, I don't know how to edit really but I tried my best. You just can't let this skin go live like this. I had so many expectations for such a long time for it. There has to be something you can do. * In the splash art the skin looks like an Elderwood skin which was exactly what I wanted this skin to be. But in-game it looks more like an Infernal or Dragon Sorceress skin. It's way too orange. Color wise the skin looks like the old one, yes. But the old, pre-rework version of the skin looked better with those branch like wings with leaves everywhere and with her old big dress that had thorns all over it. This new one doesn’t look like the old one at all. It looks too dragon-y with her new upper wings, and her new “tail” looking bottom wings don’t really help the situation neither. They look like a dragon tail. Viridian Kayle looks amazing both in-game and splash like a fairy or a forest spirit, and so should Morgana. Make the colors the same as in the splash or let the colors stay but give her the old wings back. Either the splash or the in-game model must be tweaked to match the other. * The skin seems to have lost all its autumn look. You guys removed the leaves on her wings and made them look like dragon wings. The leaves on her abilities are removed as well. Those leaves would even fall from her wings, giving her an amazing atmosphere. But like I said, the skin looks more spring-like now. If that's what it's supposed to be than match her colors to the splash. If not than give her the old wings back. This is how they looked: https://i.imgur.com/CBXwR3x.jpg[/img] * It's a 1350rp skin, is it not? Then why the lack of effects. Nowadays even reworked cheap skins get incredible effects like Infernal Akali or Crabgot. Change the effect colors to pink-purple like in the splash art and add MORE leaves/pedals. Like make her W and E full of leaves and add black-dark brown thorns. The skin is literally called Blackthorn but they are nowhere to be seen. Effect wise the skin is worse than its pre-rework. It had more effects (leaves/pedals, thorns, roots) than now. It had leaves/pedals on E. The roots on R were bigger and more apparent. Now the glow effect is too much and it makes it hard to see the thorns. The old W was way better with those big, dark thorns around it. Effect wise the skin is a downgrade. If you guys are not going to make new effects than bring the old ones back because this is not what I paid for years ago. You guys just removed everything cool about the skin. * What happened to her death animation!?? That was the best thing about the skin. She would turn into leaves and fade away. You guys didn't even add the most important thing!!! https://i.imgur.com/m7rSwzO.png[/img] Apparently it has chromas now. (Yay!) You can actually see how good the skin looks in chromas like the blue one which I think looks like Elderwood LeBlanc. She looks like a beautiful fairy or a forest spirit. Maybe you could even make a red one similar to the current base model or the old one with the autumn theme for people who liked it as well, if the in-game colors are to change of course, and they are perfect. Overall what I am saying is that bring her old look (the wings/the dress) and theme back. There is an inconsistency with the in-game model and splash art. The in-game colors are incredibly off and make her look like some dragon lady, especially with her new wings and “tail”. They might be the old colors but those colors worked with her old look with all those leaves and thorns on her big dress and wings. Especially her old wings. They need to come back. The skin seem to be in a dilemma. Is she a dragon or a forest mage? Is her theme spring or autumn? Her looks say spring but the colors say autumn. If it's not going to look like the original one at least make it match the splash art and make her fit a theme. Her hair, dress and wings. All of them need a change in color to match the splash because right now the splash art is really deceiving. Either the in-game model or the splash art should be tweaked to match the other. And so are her ability colors. They also need MORE and BIGGER leaves/pedals, thorns and roots. The old ones were better. You could tell that there were at least actual forest effects. And I still can not believe you removed her death animation! It's like everything about the skin just downgraded. The skin is incredibly underwhelming in-game and it's saddening me. I am begging you at this point. PLEASE, FIX THE SKIN... Thanks. {{sticker:sg-janna}} {{sticker:sg-soraka}}
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: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Firecracker Vayne Prestige Edition!
I haven’t been in touch with League since Christmas thus I just saw this. I am really late but still wanted to say a few things after the announcment of “Prestige Points”. Even though we all pointed out how much we disliked the new ones, of course they have more of these Prestige skins. The skins are done a few patches early, and considering how little effort the Prestige skins take to make I did expect to see more of them. Now, like I said, since they are already made even though they realized their mistake they can not scrap them. I mean, someone got paid and they spent their time on them, so doesn’t matter what we say these skins will 99% be released. But after all the feedback they got what they could have done was to increase the quality of the newer ones that will come out. But this skin is no better than the last one. And not only they didn’t fix the problem, they somehow made it worse with “Prestige Points”. There is nothing prestigous about spending hundreds of dolars to a skin. Actually, it’s quite the contrary. I personally would never get the Prestige Blood Moon Aatrox or this one but if I do end up getting them from a chest I would be too ashamed to use it. I wouldn’t want anyone to think that I spent so much money only to get a 1350rp worthy skin which is not even better than its normal counterpart. I would feel bad for anyone owning it. Prestige K/DA Kai’Sa on the other hand does make me feel prestigous because I worked my ass off for it. I love owning the skin and anyone who will see it can actually tell that its special. The only thing these skins tell me is that the owner was born with a silver spoon in their mouth. Now, appearantly there will be exceptional Prestige skins which will stay in store for a whole year. This is another bad habit that you guys started. Exceptions I mean. Like: Now you can only get this from a bundle, you can only get that from Partners Program, you can only get this cosmetic item by dancing with a racoon under a full moon. It feels like everyhing turned into a huge mess. I don’t even know how I am supposed to get things anymore. Just pick a pattern and follow it please. I miss the times when I could just get anything straight forward. Stop with the exceptions please. The “grind for the skin” was already good. Why try to change it? If your goal was to make these skins rare than I guess you nailed it because not many people will try and can afford getting these skins. If you guys think that you made a mistake there is nothing wrong with that. Just try to fix it when it’s still early. No one will judge you. Now to the skin itself... Like the last one, not much of a change. There are chromas who change the skin more than this “Prestige” skin.
: Lotta great points here, let's tackle 'em one by one: 1) Base Skin Chromas I can see how in situations where a Champion doesn't have a lot of skins and their base is really good, this can be really high value, it's definitely something for us to consider and talk about with the team (we have an ASol main on the team who I'm sure will agree wholeheartedly with you on this case) 2) Older Chromas Naming This is certainly something we can think about fixing, but it would take a bit of work particularly with our Localization team. I'll have to chat with them and our Store team to make sure everyone's on the same page before we can make a change, which is exactly what I'll do =) 3) Loading Screen Chromas Indication I think this would be a great addition. We currently don't / aren't really able to change Loading Screen at the moment, as that is owned by another team, but it's something we can certainly talk to them about and see if we can figure something out TL;DR: There's a lotta cross-team chatting that needs to happen, so I'll get on that!
I agree with my friend down here. Didn’t expect this much “I will look into that.” :D Thank you! And yes, please update us later.
: Shoutout to Amy Sery
I had the exact same problem for the last two weeks. I sent a ticket about it in my own region but they said that they couldn't see any issues with my account and that it should work fine. Throughout those 2 weeks I kept writing about my problem, even wrote about the others who had it to show that the problem wasn't on me. They said that they will try their best but can't give me an exact time. And it started working again after a few days. I don't think it has anything to do with the Honor levels. Or that we were banned specifically. Seems to be a random problem. Hope it gets fixed for everyone as well.
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