: Yeah, Ivern is kinda crappy, but at least they remaked Shyvana's passive so instead of dragons, you get the bonus after killing turrets. I didn't play it on an actual ARAM game either, but I just made a custom game for myself to check out and I was wandering through the entire map trying to get the 'River' element and it didn't work anywhere. Hope they gonna make a hotfix in this live patch and won't make us to wait 2 weeks for it, because that'd be really sad.
What about Twisted Treeline though? I don't think there is any river there, or at least none that I'm aware of. And since TT is also played as Ranked I think that is a bigger problem. River is the only way for her to use cc (apart from her ult). They could add little ponds or puddles to some places, both in ARAM and TT.
: [TFT] Pyke is OP, needs nerfs.
Even when he gets targeted, mobility spells like Lucian's and Pyke's make the enemy stop attacking them since the AIs target the closest enemy. When he has enough attack speed/mana he just keeps spamming it back and forth and gets away with it, stunning at least 3 people while at it. And yes the fact that he is an assassin makes it even worse. The range needs to be reduced, maybe the stun duration too.
: Qiyana is worthless on ARAM
Although I play lots of ARAM I haven't been able to try her on there. I thought river would've been usable, since technically water is everywhere. They could add some spots (on some pile of snow or down the bridge maybe?). Ivern and Shyvana kinda have the same problem, their passives don't work since there is no jungle. Since champions are designed for Summeners Rift it happens.
: "I've experienced this a lot. After a game, it doesn't let me queue and says contact to Riot. The only way to fix this is exiting then re-entering the client which causes me to wait in the queue again :/ And the moment I re-enter, the client opens like I'm trying to re-connect a game ( like I left), but the screen is just black. I waited a little and it turned normal after some time. What I understood is that sometimes even though you leave/loose the game it thinks that you're supposed to be in or something and waits for the game you left/lost to end." This is the classic ghost game bug in most cases it will go over if you just wait some time (no need to log out and back in again). I have had this bug happen to me in TFT and just waited ca. 30 minutes and it went away every time, though sometimes it did take a bit less or more time.
It's understandable though since in every other mode, everyone leaves the game at the same time. The client might be having a hard time.
: Teamfight Tactics is coming to PBE for testing!
I've actually never played this kind of a game before, so it took me a while to understand, but this mode is SO. MUCH. FUN! Here are some problems/bugs I noticed and also some questions and suggestions: * The login screen position/wait time is nowhere near accurate. I understand that it's crowded but I would like to know how much I need to actually wait. Like wait 5m can both mean wait 2m or wait 20m. * I've experienced this a lot. After a game, it doesn't let me queue and says contact to Riot. The only way to fix this is exiting then re-entering the client which causes me to wait in the queue again :/ And the moment I re-enter, the client opens like I'm trying to re-connect a game ( like I left), but the screen is just black. I waited a little and it turned normal after some time. What I understood is that sometimes even though you leave/loose the game it thinks that you're supposed to be in or something and waits for the game you left/lost to end. * When you're in the champion picking ring (or whatever it's called), it's hard to tell where you are and this has been causing me to pick the wrong champions. Your position should be clearer. * In the same stage as above, when I'm spawned at the bottom parts of the map the screen goes a little down and I can not see the whole map. (I hope I explained that right :d) And since there is no way to re-position the screen or zoom in and out it's a little annoying. * Again in the same place above. There are those yellow rings around you that won't let you out and teleport you to the middle of it when touched. I sometimes click a little early while trying to leave faster to pick up a champion I want (or can't tell/mistake where I am) , and the"teleport back to the middle" is a little time consuming and really annoying tbh. Why not just root us until the time comes. * Sometimes it won't combine 3 champs until I do something, like moving their place on map. * Sometimes the store won't refresh even though it's not locked. Wasted a lot of gold doing it myself. * I may be the only one experiencing this. TFT is obviously different than the other modes, and you can go some bizarre items on champions that normally would cause you to get reported :d But I can't really understand what abilities deal magic damage. Do all of them scale with it? For example you would normally go mana/ap on Kassadin. But his ability is not really a damaging spell and I'm not sure if it uses mana neither. Does ap give a bigger shield? Or like Lucian's ability says that the second shot deals magic damage, does that scale with ap? Or do both of these abilities proc Luden's Echoes? This may be obvious for everyone else and I may be the only idiot that isn't able to tell these :p. * Is there somewhere where I can look the items in the mode? What items are available and which combinations make-up other items? * Is there a specific reason why some champions have equipped skins, like Vayne for example? Would you also mind allowing us use the skins we have? I understand that there is no champion pick screen in this thus nowhere we can pick skins. But technically, when you equip a skin in the other/classic modes it stays equipped, so maybe automatically use those? Or in Collection tab let us pick/change skins and chromas so we can pick them beforehand. I have a ton of skins and would like to make use of them in this mode, which probably will be the only thing I'll be playing from now on. It's just that, people who are going to only play this mode will have no reason to buy skins. I guess there are Little Legends (and they are super cute) but it's not really the same thing. * Everyone should get the same amount of items from monsters, or they should always drop at least 1 item. * We should be able to see enemy levels on the left. * Not sure if this is intentional but there is no match history. I would like to see a summary of what happened and what others built. * {{item:3046}} is just crazy. Needs a nerf for sure. I've seen people 1 vs 3 with it. * Attack speed ({{item:1043}}) seems way better compared to other stats. It could also use a little nerf. * Stun-stacking is a problem. ({{champion:113}} {{champion:555}} {{champion:127}} {{champion:31}} {{champion:22}}) Many abilities already have huge stuns and Glacial is way too easy to achieve. Most of these abilities effect the whole team anyways. It's too much. * The first three rounds against the minions could be faster. These are all for now, I may update if I experience a bug or have a suggestion. Thanks a lot for this mode, it feels really fresh and is super fun to play!
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Arcade Caitlyn Prestige Edition!
Even though I still hate the idea of "Prestige" in general, this one is nice. The gun looks really good. It would be nice if you could add a rainbow trail or something to the R though. The ult is usually either bigger and more apparent or has a different color. It looks too similar to her autos right now. And even though they look amazing, the traps are way too apparent with those huge diamonds on them. They better be not visible to the enemy. Really hope the way we get this is not by Prestige Points. I don't mind grinding for them and earning them at all, but no way I'm paying a fortune for a 1350rp quality skin.
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Arcade Kai'Sa!
The first thing I want to say is how uncalled for this skin is. Kai'Sa was relased on March 7th 2018, just a little more than a year ago and this will be her 5th skin. 5 SKINS IN 1 YEAR! Sure, one was her release skin, another was a team skin and an another was a Prestige Edition but still, please slow down will you! Why was she even picked for this? It's not like she fits the theme exceptionally well. And she FOR SURE is not in a need for another skin neither. Then why? Remember Taliyah? She was released on May 18th 2016, 3 years ago and she only has TWO skins. One is her release skin, the other is a team skin. While there are SO MANY champions that are in a need of skin why, just WHY would you prioritize Kai'Sa? I really do not understand and can't think of a good reason behind it. As a suggestion, when she evolves/upgrades an ability it would be cool if there was something like a "LEVEL UP!".
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Dark Cosmic Jhin!
In his ultimate, let him shoot randomly from his other arms too!
: > [{quoted}](name=TaricBestGirl,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=2xiuLI7d,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-05-14T23:45:15.128+0000) > > Also, I want to say something quick about the skins that we are voting. Not specifically talking about this skin but, is it possible for the concept arts to be more realistic. What I mean by it is that, not everything is doable in game, I totally understand that and I also understand that these skins can go through a lot of change while in the making. But I thing both in this skin and the first one that was chosen (Resistance Illaoi) the arts were quite deceiving. Like I said, they will of course go through changes, but isn't it wrong to change things that were the reason why people chose that skin in the first place. I can't talk for everyone, but I thing the reason why Resistance won in the last one was because of her robotic-hand-tentacles and it was removed (because it would cause problems I guess?). I personally really liked the idea of slamming people with those huge hands. I didn't vote for that though, but that was what made the skin pop-up imo. And with this skin, since Tristana already has a fire skin, they were changed to blue, which is perfectly understandable. But I thing the reason why people vote for it was because they liked it that way, and it got changed a lot in the process. I mean, you probably knew that you wouldn't want to do another fire skin and that the flame color would be changed, so it would be better if the concept art had the blue flames beforehand. Because I believe that it would've effected the votes. > > https://i.imgur.com/5YiYvWN.png[/img] > > My request for the future polls is that, please try to present us concepts that are more doable and won't be changed much through out the process. You must surely know what could be done or can't. I just think it's deceiving to present us something and later on change the things that we liked about it in the first place. Hope you understand what I mean. Thanks! Hi there! I talked about the feedback above, so wanted to comment on this section in particular. There's two things I'd like to address here: First, is the goals of Player Choice skins. I think there's a disconnect between what we on the skins team think our goal is, and what the goal is for players. For the skins team, one of the goals of a Player Choice skin is to give players a "behind the scenes" look at how a skin gets made. We've written a series of articles that goes step-by-step to explain the process behind why we make the choices we do. Part of the process is the concept art changing during development. On Skins, we don't view concept art as a blue print that we follow _exactly_, we view the main purpose of a concept as an alignment tool or a "proof of concept." But it's not surprising that players view concept art as "this is the final skin." In this case, we really _ did_ do a concept that was almost as far "finished" as we could do. We normally work with much rougher concepts, some which aren't "complete." Could we make something even MORE finished and not-changing? Theoretically yes, but one of our steps in making skins is to [validate whether or not a concept works](https://nexus.leagueoflegends.com/en-us/2019/04/little-demon-tristana-splash-art-vfx/). Sometimes we have to pivot and make changes because something we didn't expect happens, maybe it seemed good in 2D and looks weird in 3D, maybe when you run around the animations clip, maybe the VFX cause too many issues. For us to show players an even more complete concept, we'd essentially have to make 3 skins and vote on which one we're releasing first. That's something we could consider, but there's opportunity cost there so we'd have to be okay with doing less of these, or only doing very popular champions, or doing more simple skins that we know work so we don't have as much to validate. The more unique the skin, the more it will diverge from the concept. I hope that helps!
Thanks a lot for explaining Stellari. So if I understood correct, what we vote for is the **theme of the skin** rather than **the skin itself**. We voted for a Demon Tristana skin, not the exact same skin we saw at the concept art. I think I understand now. But I still want to point out that they do effect the votes, and probably will keep on doing so. Like I pointed out above, Resistance Illaoi was the popular choice because of those hand-acles and future skins might also be chosen because of a random detail that won't be making it into the game. But from now on I will think more before voting and try not to expect the exact same skin and rather vote for the idea of it. Again, thanks!
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Little Demon Tristana
Something about it looks off to me, but I can't really point out the problem. Something is missing. Like the skin isn't finished yet. I don't find this skin satisfactory to look at. Not VFX vise but the model. Seems too simple. Like it's just base Tristana but with a pinker skin and fake, copy-pasted horns and fangs. https://i.imgur.com/utvtuIC.jpg[/img] She looks cool, cute, mischievous and quite bossy in the splash art! (I'm glad this one was chosen btw) https://i.imgur.com/8FQtd16.png[/img] Not so much in game. Looks dull, has no vibe to it. Not living up to the fantasy. Not good at delivering it. Suggestions? I'm not really sure myself. But I tried my best to write the things that caught my eye, so here is my feedback that may or may not be of help: * The skin color could be just slightly more darker. I believe it was changed, but maybe a middle way in between to give her more life and make her look more demonic. * I guess she used too much hair gel. Doesn't look natural and fiery at all, opposed to the splash and concept art (the flame VFX help a little though). But it's not puffy enough. Too flat. https://i.imgur.com/LU2bAWX.jpg[/img] * Not sure if I like the blue hair glow. Pink and blue are in quite a contrast in this skin. I don't mind the VFX, I get the reason why, but her hair could look better in pure white, like in the concept art and Demon Vi. Though I like the burning-moving and all. https://i.imgur.com/IFi3LT2.jpg[/img] * A few problems in her face. Her fangs are too big and apparent. They look like they're above her lips, like they're fake. They look really cute in splash but awkward in-game. Not sure if it can be changed but her grin is just the same as old Tristana. Doesn't look mischievous or bossy at all. She looks a little dumb :d It would also be really cool if she would look a little angry, for some emotion. Her eyes are soo empty as of now. Would be nice if her eyes look more like in the concept art. Her face is really emotionless. * Yeah, I know it’s too late but it would’ve been really cool if she would sit on a throne in her recall. Like in the splash art. In general, I don't think the in-game model is doing justice to the skin. It's not doing a good job at delivering the concept. It looks off to me. She seems a little clunky. *** Also, I want to say something quick about the skins that we are voting. Not specifically talking about this skin but, is it possible for the concept arts to be more realistic. What I mean by it is that, not everything is doable in game, I totally understand that and I also understand that these skins can go through a lot of change while in the making. But I thing both in this skin and the first one that was chosen (Resistance Illaoi) the arts were quite deceiving. Like I said, they will of course go through changes, but isn't it wrong to change things that were the reason why people chose that skin in the first place. I can't talk for everyone, but I thing the reason why Resistance won in the last one was because of her robotic-hand-tentacles and it was removed (because it would cause problems I guess?). I personally really liked the idea of slamming people with those huge hands. I didn't vote for that though, but that was what made the skin pop-up imo. And with this skin, since Tristana already has a fire skin, they were changed to blue, which is perfectly understandable. But I thing the reason why people vote for it was because they liked it that way, and it got changed a lot in the process. I mean, you probably knew that you wouldn't want to do another fire skin and that the flame color would be changed, so it would be better if the concept art had the blue flames beforehand. Because I believe that it would've effected the votes. https://i.imgur.com/5YiYvWN.png[/img] My request for the future polls is that, please try to present us concepts that are more doable and won't be changed much through out the process. You must surely know what could be done or can't. I just think it's deceiving to present us something and later on change the things that we liked about it in the first place. Hope you understand what I mean. Thanks!
: EDIT: HERE IS MY EDIT OF THE SKIN: https://imgur.com/mSbuOAs I feared this day would come, but at the same time I was hoping as well LOL So first of all, LONG HAIR! I absolutely love it (I might be a little biased) It suits well for the prestige edition. I get Satsuki from Kill A Kill vibes from her as well as looking like a timeskip version of her base design. The pedestal in the recall is nicely done as well (it took me a while to realize the training dummies had the other skin's hair stlyes LOL) I'll mentioning this now since both the base and prestige have this issue is that her face texture is a bit different. Imma put this here as a point of reference: https://imgur.com/a/t5CsGlA Now in terms of face proportions, nose is a little low along with the mouth which isn't as wide. The eye shape is completely different, slanting more of a hill shape rather than the splash art one more. Even slapping the Star Guardian Lux face on this would make this better because the eye shape matches the splash art more than the current face, here: https://imgur.com/a/PDR785i So yea this was for the face for both BA Lux Skins but now onto the Prestige one. I'm getting similar issues with the yellow in this skin as with the Prestige K/DA Ahri one. It's too yellow. I'll try to do a mockup later when I have my setup ready but I'm not digging the very strong yellow as it doesn't really read as gold. Maybe tone down the brassiness of the yellow and making it more neutral or rose gold hues to tone down the yellow and make it more of a champagne color. It would overall match with the white on her uniform really well and makes it pop without having to result to having to bright colors that contrast each other. A lot of people as well complained about the brown stockings and boots, I for one am one of them. Maybe have the stockings a pale gold with the boots white with golden accents? (I feel like this would be better explained with a mockup which I would include later. Lastly, her hair color. I for one would like it to be a blonde, but with rose gold hues to make more aesthetically pleasing. It would also match with her new VFX in the prestige edition. Overall, I'm happy with the design but it has to be Prestige for a reason. I've noticed this trend now with the prestige is that a lot of feedback when we first had a glimpse at the skins. They look rushed,not as polished and the execution of the design falls off a little bit and I don't want that to happen to this skin because Lux is my favorite champion.
> It's too yellow. Literally everyone after a Prestige release. They always make it too bright. Never realized how much I dislike this kind of bright, glaring, strong gold shades until Prestige happened.
: Thinking on it, I think it might be nice for her prestige particles to be more prismatic. The pink elements would still be there, but more greens, blues, whites, the rainbow really - almost like base lux just upped an anime level.
Is your suggestion for them to look more like how it looks in her Q root?: https://i.imgur.com/JNh2Ylv.png[/img] Becasue if so, than yes! They really should look like that. The green and yellow should be more apparent in all her abilities. Right now it's dominated too much by pink. They can not not make her skin VFX either yellow or pink I guess. I wanted to suggest it as well but I'm not even sure if they're going to do anything about the normal one. And since this is the Prestige, they might just leave it as it is since it looks different enough than the other. But if possible I would also like it if it was more rainbow-ish. She already has many pink VFX skins.
: Personally, I feel like Ezreal and Lux should have chromas as well regardless of their legendary / prestige... There IS different classes, you know? It just seems it would make some sense to have them all get different uniforms.
Not sure about Ezreal since his is a Legendary skin, though if I’m not wrong Dunkmaster Darius received some as well. But Lux really should have got some. If Prestige skins aren’t really chromas than it shouldn’t effect it. No one will be able to get the Prestige after the event ends anyways.
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Battle Academia Chromas!
My feedback is for the Yuumi ones. They look really nice but why don't we have different colors like green and yellow. Many of those colors seem too close to each other. Like I see two black ones there (not sure what a "formal" chroma is) , two purple/lila-ish. Can't we sacrifice some for more different colors, like green maybe? Or yellow? Or some other color that you may think of? https://i.imgur.com/CfKLoKu.jpg[/img] Not that they're bad of course but I would like some more difference so I can feel like I have more options and some of these look a little similar color vise. Like the Winter Wonder Neeko ones you released a while ago are the best chromas you've ever done imo. You can see how different each of them look. So many options! https://i.imgur.com/zXUkX6X.jpg[/img]
: Should Yuumi's Q have a bit of AOE?
I'm still shocked that it isn't AOE. Both in her classic and Battle Academia skin, it looks like it deals splash damage like a Zoe Q. Kinda deceiving. https://i.imgur.com/mYWdOmd.jpg[/img]
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Battle Academia Lux Prestige Edition!
> **New Golden VFX:** Gold palette and patterns for her Battle Academia VFX. Not really lol. It actually looks like the other way around. But I like them better than the normal ones. Very good job! https://i.imgur.com/ua2Z87X.jpg[/img] https://i.imgur.com/xyzH72Z.jpg[/img]
: I tried playing Yuumi last night and was very disappointed to discover that her W passive (bonus adaptive damage) does not give assists. I built AP and was riding on a Master Yi who was getting 186 adaptive damage (~110 bonus AD). My E was on CD and Yi killed the enemy before my Q could land so I didn't get the assist (no ally shield/heal or enemy damage). I think the bonus stats are enough to warrant an assist considering that Ashe E vision is enough for one.
Totally agree. You technically give a damage buff to your ally and should get an assist for it.
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Battle Academia Lux
I like the homeguard a lot :D The skin is cool in general. My only complaint is that, many of Lux's skins already have yellow VFX. This skin is no exception: https://i.imgur.com/IacYc1L.jpg[/img] The odd thing is, the Prestige Edition of the same skin actually has pink VFX. You would expect it to be the other way around. Auto: https://i.imgur.com/Q6mCZfk.png[/img] Q: https://i.imgur.com/ua2Z87X.jpg[/img] W: https://i.imgur.com/ORaYKP6.jpg[/img] E: https://i.imgur.com/TGl9dfi.jpg[/img] R: https://i.imgur.com/xyzH72Z.jpg[/img] I of course know that the VFX would be different in Prestige and obviously that's how it should be. It's not even a thematic thing like Prestige can't have other colored effects. My problem is with the normal version. I really am sick of yellow VFX on Lux and wish the normal version of the skin didn't have them neither. You could of course swap them. Would work out I guess and make more sense. But I really don't like that she is getting another yellow effect skin for her. I don't even want pink tbh. The thing is, everyone talks about how many skins she keeps on getting, but no one realizes and talks about how similar these skins are. All of her skins either have pink or yellow VFX, except from the Elementalist forms. Wish you guys would act more brave with her colors and try out new things. Maybe some green and red, like in her outfit. Other than the VFX, I think the skin is really good looking. Very nice job.
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Battle Academia Ezreal!
Wish you guys gave him some Japanese voice lines because "there is no English equivalent to how powerful that word is".
: Huge Update to the model and vfx textures here: https://twitter.com/Sirhaian/status/1113617410580344832 There are additional gifs in above link as well to view what some of her new spell/kit VFX look like as well, however I strongly urge you try her out ingame on PBE :) Cheers! -Kiwi
The Empowered Whiplash is still too white looking I think. It would be nice if it was possible to tone it down just a little more. And I saw the changes to the Q but they are more gray looking than blue imo. How would it be if the tip of the spikes were more like the new lashes. Like this: https://i.imgur.com/yWLTtgc.png[/img] Ok maybe not like this I am horrible at editing so I just painted over it but you get the idea. The classic Q was already in golden and I know that the Prestige changes the gold tone a little but the Q spikes come and go like in a second anyways so it would be nice if we could get a more noticeable change/color. Not sure how it would look, just a suggestion. Again, thanks for listening to our feedback! Edit: Seeing the abilities getting their fair share of this new blue I wanted to see how the W could be changed accordingly. Not sure if better but for anyone wondering how the W would look in blue: https://i.imgur.com/i8i3OlF.png[/img]
: Hey guys, just wanted to update that we are listening and taking in all your feedback, and are very appreciative. We're working on her lasher and overall model colors to be blue and a different type of yellow, respectively. We're also addressing the feedback on the empowered E not looking different enough as well. **WORK IN PROGRESS** https://i.imgur.com/7CEwV9Z.png **WORK IN PROGRESS** Thanks for the continued patience and I'll have an update tonight or tomorrow. {{summoner:31}} The update should show many things including various vfx tweaks. I want to point out here that Q VFX will not be a monotonous gold as commented, too.
Yay, they look really nice! I think the Empowered Whiplash (E) glow is too white though. Would you also consider adding that blue color to her abilities as well? And maybe even some small tweaks to the outfit and hair to make her look more diva/Evelynn, like some fur, lace or leather? Or changing the gold tone like you did with Ahri to make it more unique to her? I know I am asking for a lot :D Loving the changes, thanks for listening to our feedback!
: She actually does have blue/purple glasses in demon shade, but because her hair is so brightly glowing you can barely tell
You’re right, thanks. I realised that later on.
: Heya TaricBestGirl! I'm really glad you're enjoying the IG skins, we put a lot of hard work into making them as awesome as possible! To answer your concern, the reason why Rakan was chosen without Xayah is because the players will request the champion they want for their skin (so long as they could play said champion during Worlds), and so Baolan requested that Rakan be his represented champion. That means that we had to leave Xayah without a skin as Kai'sa was chosen by Jackylove. Hope this clears things up! -Riot GrumboJr
Oh, I understand! I just checked him out and apparently he played Alistar, Braum and Rakan. Looking at the other two I guess it is understandable why he picked him. But maybe there should've been a rule that both Xayah and Rakan have to get a skin at the same time or because he just got one he can't be picked this year. I understand I guess. But a Braum skin would be dope though!
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: K/DA Evelynn Prestige Edition!
FINALLY, the last one is here! I will just quickly say what I **like** - **don't like** and **the changes I would like to see**: **LIKE:** * Her new thick and velvet-y lashes. **DON'T LIKE:** * The lack of color. Both on her model and abilities. * Her hair. * She doesn't seem to have that bossy, diva, sexy look anymore. She seems more mild and doesn't excite me as much. *** **THE CHANGES I WOULD LIKE TO SEE:** * Color wise she is quite boring imo. It might be a little too much gold like the old Prestige K/DA Ahri, so tone it down a little or maybe change the color to a rose/peach gold or something similar to make it more unique and exciting. The normal one had **Primary: **purple **Secondary: **gold as her colors. Now she is fully golden and because she had that color on her a lot already there is not much you can do right now. So I suggest adding her a secondary color: a diamond-ish blue, like Prestige K/DA Akali's weapon. The gems on her lashes would look better in that color I think. https://i.imgur.com/vcOZF1r.png[/img] * I think her wild, sassy, diva look is a little lost. It's like she doesn't have the same character anymore. The problem are her outfits, not the color, though it surely effects as well. I just don't think Evelynn would wear these, she looks out of character. I would imagine her wearing something more... brave. Not sure what kind of changes could be made to them. Maybe some fur, lace or leather? Her hair definitely needs some sort of a change too. Anything that would make her look better and more Evelynn. https://i.imgur.com/HlcEF8m.jpg[/img] * Since her Q was already golden there is not much or almost no changes to that right now. Like I said, I suggest adding some diamond blue (or whatever it's called) to them. Her Empowered Whiplash glow is also not obvious enough, so making her lash gems glow in blue would be nice. https://i.imgur.com/0l556aA.png[/img] https://i.imgur.com/yWLTtgc.png[/img] * Not saying it's better but seeing that other abilities started to get some of this new blue I wondered how the W would look so I did this: https://i.imgur.com/i8i3OlF.png[/img] * Her passive frame effect is changed to gold but according to the changes above it would be nice to add some blue to it as well, considering everything is just too much golden. Her model shade/glow should have that color as well. Like her glasses could glow in blue because right now they’re not obvious enough and they are the most iconic thing about her. I would also like if her hair glowed less. You could also consider changing or adding something to her passive music. https://i.imgur.com/W5KEe1b.png[/img] Thanks for taking you time.
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Invictus Gaming Skins
These team skins get better every year and these are my personal favorites! The color scheme and everything looks really neat. The wings are amazing, especially the one on Camille E. My only somewhat problem is that, why did Rakan get a skin without Xayah? I thought it was their thing and I found it really cool. Wish you guys didn't change that. Also the fact that he just got SSG makes this skin even more unexpected.
: KDA Evelynn Prestige Colors
She immediately needs a change in her hair. And imo they removed the gimmick of the skin: her glasses. Just why remove it? Give her a different one, a cooler one but at least give her something.
: Ghost Poro > Eyeball Collection?
I think that there is not much variety in D3 with these changes. All three runes are just too similar now.
: Hey TricolorStar! Thanks for the breakdown of the feedback. I've been collecting feedback to give to the team and will be sure to pass this along to them! It might be difficult for us to address the sports-themed champion interactions, but that would be a very cool idea! Keep on being awesome! {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}} -Riot GrumboJr
I guess we are not awesome enough ;-; {{sticker:sg-soraka}}
: Ok, here we go again. We have so outstanding themes for the most popular champions, like K/DA, Arcade, Star Guardians. You guys said you WANT to bring back some thematics to game, thats OK. BUT, Ivern never had another skin after his release, and... THIS IS "THE SKIN YOU GUYS WILL LOVE IT"? As an Ivern main, i REALLY feel betrayed, cause i expecting some dark and perverse stuff, like Perverse Lulu. OK, OK, i know you would like to keep some Silly personality with him, yeah yeah. But, there's so many possibilities to bring incredible things for a champion who's shines with an colorful aura. Unfortunally, "Drunk"master Ivern doesn't bring it to us. Lazy SFX, poor VFX (reusing K/DA Ahri particles on his basic attacks) and just an outfit to base ivern. Nothing... "new". Maybe Illaoi or Pyke would fit better with Dunkmaster theme. You guys made me feel more disappointed than Mech Aurelion Sol. Hope you rethink about this concept and roll back this to make a voting, like you did with Illaoi and Tristana. {{sticker:zombie-nunu-tears}} Edit: Demon theme fits more in Ivern than Tristy, just saying. :^)
I think you pointed out something really nice by saying “The coolest themes go to the most popular champions.” Not only they get skins frequently, they also get the highest quality skins and the coolest themes. What everyone is trying to say is that, this skin wouldn’t be as much of a problem if he would just get another one soon. But we all know that he won’t get one for another 2 years. That’s why this skin should’ve been a cool theme. This skin is just a quite boring, basic sports skin. You can give him the coolest effects but the the skin itself is not good enough to amuse people for 2-3 more years. Whereas a champion like Ahri keeps on getting the coolest skins, quite frequently at that. I understand that it’s hard to make a skin for Ivern, but while making him one at least make the best that you can. Same with Aurelion Sol and every other unpopular champion. It’s not their fault that they’re unpopular, it’s Riot’s fault. They’re the ones who design them and balance them. Ivern is a awkward, hard to play champion. If anything, they should be glad that someone out there is at least playing him. It’s not the champions’ fault that they are unpopular. They probably even forget about some of them from time to time. But lets say Ahri, Yasuo or Jhin is always under the spotlight and is never forgotten. They get skins like K/DA, Project, Blood Moon etc. Well, they’re popular because YOU DESIGNED THEM SO! How hard could it be to give 1 cool skin to an unpopular champion. Like, if a Ivern skin wasn’t going to sell much because there aren’t many players of him, now it’s only going to sell less because it’s higly disliked. And there are a lot of cases where people just buy a skin because it’s cool, even though they have never played the champ before. If the skin was interesting it would only help introduce more people to the champion. These are at least what I believe in. Also I would like to add that I am not an Ivern main. God, I don’t even remember the last time I played or even seen him. I used to play him a lot when he first came out. I think I played him until reaching lv5 mastery because I love supporting and wanted to try this new “happy jungle support”. Anyways, what I try to accomplish here is that, I also play a lot of unpopular champions, like ASol (but he got the same treatment as Ivern). And I am scared to go through all these when the time comes for them to also get a skin. I want unpopular champions to also get well designed, cools skins like they deserve. I don’t even mind waiting for years if the skin is going to be amazing. If possible next time ask the players or just look at fan arts or anything that would give you an idea of what the players expect so that we don’t get disappointed later on. I think the right solution right know is to keep this skin as it is and publish it to the live servers because doesn’t matter we like it or not people worked on it and it’s here as a whole. BUT give people a promise for another Ivern skin later this year that will fit their taste. I believe that this is the only fair way for everyone to be happy. Also sorry if anything I said was rude/wrong.
: Im an ivern main since his release and im not disappointed, so its definitely not 100%, not to mention the owner of the ivern MAINS discord himself said he thought it was a decent skin that needed a touch up on here, but you fuckwads downvoted it to hell because you’d rather WAAAAHHHHHHHHHH then actually give some constructive criticism for the skin they put on the table right now. I’m 100% for an awesome theme Ivern skin, the void one would probably be one of my favorite skins of all time, but I recognize one of those skins is COMING so I’m more than happy to have a more lighthearted skin in the meantime.
Wow, you’re quite an angry person for an Ivern main aren’t you :D
: Dude leona got 2 in the same patch lol
Not exactly the same case though. Her skins were variants and Leona is quite popular. Whereas it would be a miracle for Ivern to get even 1 Legendary, or even any skin really. And everyone, you as well seeing you’re an Ivern main yourself, would like his Legendary be a darker theme like let’s say Coven/Old God. Because with his current animations and voice lines it would be impossible to make such a skin. I have been seeing a lot about a Voidbringer Ivern skin as well, that skin could actually be a 1350rp skin. Just remove the voiceover and add zombie-ish sounds. So many cool ideas are floating around.
: how to improve Dunkmaster Ivern change to 1820RP. running/walking Ivern is dribbling a basketball passive ability: a whistle blows, a basketball floats in the middle of the camp, audience claps SFX. q skill: ivern chest passes a basketball to an enemy; on enemy champion(s), a basketball net appear on top of them, clicking on these enemy champion(s) causes allies to dash and attack, the basketball net mark has a ball drop through it and makes a SWOOSH SFX, disappears. w skill: the bush has thunderclappers shaking, camera flashes, foam hands waving, signs, an Dunkmaster Ivern Jersey shaking. Ivern's AAs in the bush, him shooting 3 pointers. e skill: the sounds of basketball shoes squeeking on wooden floors, 3 miniature DM Iverns dribbling around allied champions before performing an alleyoop straight up and disappearing. r skill: golem is summoned dribbling a ball, golem basic attack is him bouncing ball off of enemies, golem knocks up enemies with a wave of basketballs.
I believe people would break into Riot HQ and burn the building down if his Legendary was this. He only has 1 chance for a Legendary you know :/
: yeh it definitely needs a bit more ive seen other ideas floaying around like replacing the link of chain in her Q with a gingerbread man or her pool into batter as well
: This skin reminded me of Wilt from Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends with his awkwardly tall body and the basketball uniform, he is just in greens not red :p. https://i.imgur.com/aY5rB7C.png[/img] He is tall and skinny so he does look like a basketball player in a way, BUT THAT'S IT! Nothing about him fits this theme. You shouldn't give such a skin to a champion who doesn’t even have a “dunk” ability. This theme is more fitting for someone like Illaoi, Draven, Vi or even Jarvan who literally got a skin the same patch. Or any champion who is like Darius, who goes for big flashy kills. Also it has been like what, 3 years? People have been waiting forever for something good and exiting. This being his first skin... I understand why it's hated by majority. But I also understand why it was chosen. The release skin was quite colorful, silly and appealed more to candy lovers :p. I understand that Riot tries to balance the skins by choosing something different but this ain't it. It doesn't fit him at all and is incredibly underwhelming. It shouldn't be forgotten that champions like Ivern don't get much attention. God knows how long it will take for him to get a good skin that people will like. If only he was like Ahri or Lux. But you had all the time in the world. After seeing all those cool fan arts and concepts for years we all were really pumped up. Wish you guys thought more about it. A different, more exiting theme for a champ and his players who waited for soo soo long... It looks underwhelming, sorry. I still can't believe this is an actual skin, it looks fake imo. And I wish he looked better and different visually. Even compared to Candy King this skin is bad. It's just him in a basketball uniform and a new hair. I'm sorry to say this but he looks underwhelming :/ You should at least made Daisy a cheerleader smh. Champions like Ivern, Aurelion Sol and Illaoi are all champs who have a small player base thus get really small attention. They hardly get 1 skin in 3 years, whereas some get 3 in 1 year. While giving skins to them you should do more research about what the players want, what they expect because they will always have high expectations. This is a really sensitive topic for the players of such champions. I hope you guys give more care and attention to them in the future. P.S.: After waiting for so long and all the teasing I thought we were going to get a legendary Coven Ivern skin, like the one in your artwork. I will be waiting for this one: https://i.imgur.com/ZompLwL.jpg[/img]
Ivern mains even started a [petition](https://www.change.org/p/riot-games-we-want-a-new-ivern-skin-and-scrap-the-current-work-of-dunkmaster-ivern).
: Experimental ARAM Changes on PBE
As someone who plays ARAM a lot, these changes sound really nice! I will be trying them out in a minute. A little off topic but, speaking for myself I like and prefer quick and fun modes like ARAM more than SR. I am bored of SR actually. I like being able to pick my favorite champions, do all kinds of stupid things and go wild with different, stupid builds that you wouldn't be able to in SR. I know SR is what this game is all about but this is personally where I have my fun in LOL. They are also really quick, so even if you're going bad, losing or have an AFK you can end and start a new one quicker. People are also less toxic since it's just for fun. These are why I love such game modes so I wanted to say thanks for doing some changes and caring for ARAM. I would also like to ask a few questions. * Like I said, I love and almost only play modes like these. Any plans on adding such modes permanently to the game? Like, how is Nexus Blitz going? Any plans on adding it permanently? Even though I like it a lot, my biggest problem with ARAM is that we can not pick our desired champions. Nexus Blitz was really fun for me because of this. So I really hope it stays permanently. * Will we ever see the weekly rotating game modes back? I really liked that feature. * After the ARAM changes, any plans on doing some for The Twisted Treeline? What are your thoughts about it? I really like the map visually. Thematically the coolest and most beautiful map in the game, but it needs some love. Thanks in advance!
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: DUNKMASTER IVERN
This skin reminded me of Wilt from Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends with his awkwardly tall body and the basketball uniform, he is just in greens not red :p. https://i.imgur.com/aY5rB7C.png[/img] He is tall and skinny so he does look like a basketball player in a way, BUT THAT'S IT! Nothing about him fits this theme. You shouldn't give such a skin to a champion who doesn’t even have a “dunk” ability. This theme is more fitting for someone like Illaoi, Draven, Vi or even Jarvan who literally got a skin the same patch. Or any champion who is like Darius, who goes for big flashy kills. Also it has been like what, 3 years? People have been waiting forever for something good and exiting. This being his first skin... I understand why it's hated by majority. But I also understand why it was chosen. The release skin was quite colorful, silly and appealed more to candy lovers :p. I understand that Riot tries to balance the skins by choosing something different but this ain't it. It doesn't fit him at all and is incredibly underwhelming. It shouldn't be forgotten that champions like Ivern don't get much attention. God knows how long it will take for him to get a good skin that people will like. If only he was like Ahri or Lux. But you had all the time in the world. After seeing all those cool fan arts and concepts for years we all were really pumped up. Wish you guys thought more about it. A different, more exiting theme for a champ and his players who waited for soo soo long... It looks underwhelming, sorry. I still can't believe this is an actual skin, it looks fake imo. And I wish he looked better and different visually. Even compared to Candy King this skin is bad. It's just him in a basketball uniform and a new hair. I'm sorry to say this but he looks underwhelming :/ You should at least made Daisy a cheerleader smh. Champions like Ivern, Aurelion Sol and Illaoi are all champs who have a small player base thus get really small attention. They hardly get 1 skin in 3 years, whereas some get 3 in 1 year. While giving skins to them you should do more research about what the players want, what they expect because they will always have high expectations. This is a really sensitive topic for the players of such champions. I hope you guys give more care and attention to them in the future. P.S.: After waiting for so long and all the teasing I thought we were going to get a legendary Coven Ivern skin, like the one in your artwork. I will be waiting for this one: https://i.imgur.com/ZompLwL.jpg[/img]
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Hextech Jarvan IV!
Color wise isn't it a little too similar to Dark Star? Also not much of a fan of the skin line. You should've given him the Dunkmaster skin!
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: > [{quoted}](name=TaricBestGirl,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=rHNKLH12,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-03-11T12:37:24.564+0000) > > Riot Orphyre, I tried to ask this before. If I knew you would answer I would have asked this again here. > > I don’t know if you remember, I actually asked about this a few patches ago but her old chromas are named Ebony, Pale and Toxic. All the old, original chromas have names like that. Their names are also shown in the loading screen like a skin name. Will they be changed to fit the newer ones? > Like: Ebony: Obsidian, Toxic: Peridot and Pale: Pearl. > > Would you also mind telling us if there are any updates with [the other questions I asked back then](https://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/client-new-features-feedback/5fABJ2FV-pbe-bugs-feedback-thread-blood-moon-chromas?comment=0001) as well. I and a few more friends would really apreciate it. Thanks in advance. I know the questions are directed at Orphyre, but I can drop some insights in the meantime. Old Chroma Naming Conventions- These are a different line of products directed at a different purpose. though both called chromas, old base skin chromas were aimed at making cheap customization for players that may not want to invest in a full skin. This was not received well. New chromas are a more premium product aimed to provide more options for your favorite skin. To separate the product lines, their naming will remain different. Loading Screen indicators - We have explored this previously, however, the loading screen was in the process of getting an update. Thus, we deferred it till the new loading screen is defined. Chroma is a small part of the loading screen experience and we wouldn't want to push the Loading Screen team to tackle this first before more important Loading Screen features. Is isn't to say that we will not do it in the near future :)
A loading screen indicator would be nice of course but no need to rush it since I understand that the new loading screen is still being worked on. This is a suggestion for clarity anyway. But the old chroma changes is more of a request. They might be old, but they cost the same. At least with the reworks, it would be nice to bring them to todays standarts of chromas with name changes and maybe even some alteration of patterns. Personally I own a lot of those base chromas and I do like them a lot. Not because they’re cheap but some champions have really good base skins that I like to use and having some good color options is nice. Please consider updating them and re-start giving them to some of the champions that have good base skins. I will be waiting for an Aurelion Sol one ;-;
: > [{quoted}](name=TaricBestGirl,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=HjBB4qZf,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-03-07T20:09:12.631+0000) > > To be honest after the previous Prestige skins like Aatrox’s, this skin really hits the spot. I haven’t liked any of them ever since Kai’Sa’s. This is how they should at least look. The crown and crystal trident does make him look prestigious. Hope the newer ones will look even better. > > But the way to receive them is still really wrong. I want to earn this by working hard for it, not by paying a fortune. I think it was okay to buy a pass and grind for it. A lot of people seem to like that way as well. I wonder why you guys changed lt. Because there is no way for me to pay for any of these new Prestlge skins. > > And I also wonder why it was decided to give a Prestige skin to only one side in a VS event, because it’s not really fair. Both of the Team Dog skins already look better in my opinion, and the fact that you guys gave the Prestige skin to their side makes it hard for me to root for Team Cat. Wish we got something as well. This is just my opinion. ;-; I'm glad you feel good about it! We've taken a lot of the feedback from the previous Prestige skins, and are trying to make these skins feel a lot more special than they have in the past. I can't promise that "Prestige" and "Royal" will always align like they have in this skin, but we're always looking for ways to further improve them. I understand where you're coming from about how they're obtained and the feeling that only our Doggo sides got a Prestige version whereas our Cat-friendly side didn't, you make really good points, I'll pass that feedback along to our Store team
They don't have to have a "royal" theme. Kai'Sa doesn't and hers looks amazing as well. My point is that, this skin has some actual visual changes. It looks more than a golden chroma -ahem ahem Aatrox-. I'm glad that you guys added something to the skin besides making its color golden, in this case it's the crown and the crystal trident and in the Kai'Sa one it was the Taylor hair. Considering these skins are the most expensive content in the game I would like more than a bare color change.
: > [{quoted}](name=Hayzal,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=rHNKLH12,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-03-06T12:50:10.398+0000) > > Tiger chroma for rengar pluz and fruit dagger really dont match at all. Are you referring to the Citrine version? What do you think would be a better dagger for him?
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: April Fool’s Chromas!
Riot Orphyre, I tried to ask this before. If I knew you would answer I would have asked this again here. I don’t know if you remember, I actually asked about this a few patches ago but her old chromas are named Ebony, Pale and Toxic. All the old, original chromas have names like that. Their names are also shown in the loading screen like a skin name. Will they be changed to fit the newer ones? Like: Ebony: Obsidian, Toxic: Peridot and Pale: Pearl. Would you also mind telling us if there are any updates with [the other questions I asked back then](https://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/client-new-features-feedback/5fABJ2FV-pbe-bugs-feedback-thread-blood-moon-chromas?comment=0001) as well. I and a few more friends would really apreciate it. Thanks in advance.
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Fuzz Fizz Prestige Edition!
To be honest after the previous Prestige skins like Aatrox’s, this skin really hits the spot. I haven’t liked any of them ever since Kai’Sa’s. This is how they should at least look. The crown and crystal trident does make him look prestigious. Hope the newer ones will look even better. But the way to receive them is still really wrong. I want to earn this by working hard for it, not by paying a fortune. I think it was okay to buy a pass and grind for it. A lot of people seem to like that way as well. I wonder why you guys changed lt. Because there is no way for me to pay for any of these new Prestlge skins. And I also wonder why it was decided to give a Prestige skin to only one side in a VS event, because it’s not really fair. Both of the Team Dog skins already look better in my opinion, and the fact that you guys gave the Prestige skin to their side makes it hard for me to root for Team Cat. Wish we got something as well. This is just my opinion. ;-;
: [CLOSED] PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Meowrick!
Is it possible to make the little passive cats and the big ult cat cuter? They all look like their eyes are closed. Is it possible to give them cute, wide open eyes and some face detail. Especially to the Maiden, she looks odd and creepy. Anything that would make them cute? They are a little too soulless. Also just a general comment about the event. It doesn’t feel like VS at all. You guys are obviously favoring dogs. Their skins are way better and cute (I am a cat person btw). And how is it fair to give a Prestige skin to only one side in a VS event?
: [CLOSED] PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Pretty Kitty Rengar!
Rengar is an obvious choice for this skin line. Though I really like the idea, I don’t think it was implemented right. He is already cat-like so why give him a cat-suit. Maokai, Yorick (and Katarina I guess) all have cat-suits already. It’s a missed opportunity to make him fully a cute cat, like the way you changed Fizz to a dog. Model-wise I dislike the skin. He looks disturbing than cute. And could be because of his hair but the cute cat face on his forehead is not visible enough. Is it also not possible to change his hair in some way? Maybe to something like yarn strings (I don’t know what they are called sorry for my english :P). Or a hoodie? Just anything that would make him cuter. Also for the Rengar mains, the skin really is a little awkward I guess but it’s a April Fools skin. It’s only natural for it to look so, though I understand how you feel. Your concern is that he may not get another skin that would fit your taste for a really long time now that he got this which you’re right he may not. I will copy paste this here as well: Also just a general comment about the event. It doesn’t feel like VS at all. You guys are obviously favoring dogs. Their skins are way better and cute (I am a cat person btw). And how is it fair to give a Prestige skin to only one side in a VS event?
: I honestly agree with everything, the wings and the falling leaves are really important imho, but can we address the fact that the splash looks amateur AF compared to everything else?? Her old Blackthorn splash shows her elegant side and her badass side... The new one is just bad, i'm sorry but there's no other way of putting it. I know that a rioter said it's their favourite splash or whatever, but come on, it's honestly lazy with a huge lack of character compared to her wonderful, glorious old one.
I think that at this point neither the skin nor the splash will get a change unfortunately. I really tried my best to get her old wings, the falling leaves and the W back but it seems they don't want to deal with it anymore. I am really sad. They decreased the skins quality.
: They Say They Won't Add Particles to Sinful Succulence or Blade Mistress.
Sinful Succulence really needed some basic new effects. Baker Pantheon is also a 975rp skin in the same skin line as Sinful Succulence but it has pastry effects. "The skin looks good with base effects." is not really a good reason. It doesn't feel fair to do a special treatment to some but not the others.
: That one and the Heimer one were done before the time when they actually made the legendaries fully updated (which wasnt until they did the Galio update). So those kind of have a pass, especially since Heimer for one got a modern legendary and Im sure Annie will in time. All others will be fully redone in their VGUs as it has been said for various champions.
But what about Firefighter Tristana? It is 1820rp but has a quality of 1350rp. Didn't she got a rework a few years ago?
: Tell me if I am wrong.
Exactly my thoughts, but there is (probably) at least 1 person who reads them. I mean they HAVE to read them. Now people are going to say "But they don't have to write anything. They still take your feedback." True, true. Though I wish they did, they don't have to. But what about the questions that were asked? Are they really that busy? {{sticker:sg-lux-2}}
: I'm not saying your feedback is unwarranted, but Rioters have stated feedback should be beyond just "I don't like this". You should include ideas of what you want or what direction you'd like changes to be in. Like, do you want like a whole storm of those leaves around? Did you like the old effects they should be carried over exactly as they were here? Perhaps you want a more varied type of leaves for each spell?
Of course I know that. That's why I wrote [this](https://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/client-new-features-feedback/2zqBFIHW-blackthorn-morgana-feedback-please-fix-the-skin). But pretty much what you just said, yeah. The old effects were better. Not saying they should just copy paste them but similar would be nice. The old W for instance was soo much better. And the old wings. They were the whole gimmick.
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