: ADCs abused the AS. What they can do is allow the passive CD to decrease per AA but this is healthier for now.
> [{quoted}](name=EcchiOtakuTM,realm=PBE,application-id=cMKtzQHY,discussion-id=adp7TlAh,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-10-29T17:22:53.924+0000) > > ADCs abused the AS. > > What they can do is allow the passive CD to decrease per AA but this is healthier for now. false, adc didnt abused cause of the as, it was because of the flat armor pen plus cdr and move speed to help kitting and positioning but the main factor was the flat armor pen
: Can we please talk about Akali?
Well i hope im wrong but i this seems what is actually going to happen, riot wants to leave her on the gutted state to an future rework, a big one like taric or poppy. Really sad :=(
: We need some assassins to be good you know... To be honest, more of the PBE testers should be high elo, so bronze/silver players don't ruin this game. Assassins right now are extremely underpowered. This update is just making them even more underpowered. People were bitching about being oneshot by a LB when they're probably asking for it by solo split pushing past river on Ashe with no vision. There's a big piece of counterplay to all of this: Git gud.
> [{quoted}](name=icookpants,realm=PBE,application-id=2EAF660193FA3B668D7234B3AEBB530C5AB7F651,discussion-id=NV7JpfAm,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2016-10-25T11:38:29.103+0000) > > We need some assassins to be good you know... To be honest, more of the PBE testers should be high elo, so bronze/silver players don't ruin this game. Assassins right now are extremely underpowered. This update is just making them even more underpowered. People were bitching about being oneshot by a LB when they're probably asking for it by solo split pushing past river on Ashe with no vision. > > There's a big piece of counterplay to all of this: Git gud. this.... the problem is the majority is low elo or just simply braind dead that doesnt even make decent arguments and just say retarded thinks
: Not even, 1.5 - 2 seconds. Your leap is 1 stack, all 3 abilities gives you 3, which adds up to 4. The new Rengo requires you to throw your bola mid jump, since that's the hardest thing to land (since his Q is a huge AOE, if you have a mouse you should land your Q lul). And after bola, they're already very slowed, you W and Q when you land, and all that should take less than 0.75 seconds. If you're immediately CC'ed after getting those 4 stacks, press W, that's why they implemented it.
> [{quoted}](name=Feeding Khazix,realm=PBE,application-id=2EAF660193FA3B668D7234B3AEBB530C5AB7F651,discussion-id=dak1nPvW,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2016-10-25T01:30:13.257+0000) > > Not even, 1.5 - 2 seconds. Your leap is 1 stack, all 3 abilities gives you 3, which adds up to 4. The new Rengo requires you to throw your bola mid jump, since that's the hardest thing to land (since his Q is a huge AOE, if you have a mouse you should land your Q lul). And after bola, they're already very slowed, you W and Q when you land, and all that should take less than 0.75 seconds. > > If you're immediately CC'ed after getting those 4 stacks, press W, that's why they implemented it. on later but if you want to dps remember you can cancel between the animation and aa, live on live but on 180 is really hard
: Using an empowered ability gives you the movespeed bonus, now.
> [{quoted}](name=Spaceman5pff,realm=PBE,application-id=2EAF660193FA3B668D7234B3AEBB530C5AB7F651,discussion-id=dak1nPvW,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-10-24T20:57:38.865+0000) > > Using an empowered ability gives you the movespeed bonus, now. you take at least 1.5 2 seconds to get that extra movement speed
: Is the ability of being able to flash Rengar's leap a bug or not?
> [{quoted}](name=DeathAngelYasuo,realm=PBE,application-id=2EAF660193FA3B668D7234B3AEBB530C5AB7F651,discussion-id=Rn2w42n7,comment-id=0054,timestamp=2016-10-21T19:35:19.964+0000) > > Is the ability of being able to flash Rengar's leap a bug or not? its not a bug it was always like that
: You use the Kassadin comparison as if Rengar does NOT have a good lategame. Rengar has quite a good lategame, at least as much as a melee assassin can have a good lategame. Don't shame me for pulling out the mad card when my character was under fire from the start. I would like a link to a confirmation of a Diana rework and a Fiddle rework. If, as you both said, ALL of those champs I listed are getting reworked, I would like to see that.
> [{quoted}](name=Spaceman5pff,realm=PBE,application-id=2EAF660193FA3B668D7234B3AEBB530C5AB7F651,discussion-id=Rn2w42n7,comment-id=000a00000002000000000000000000000000000000010000,timestamp=2016-10-20T17:54:00.644+0000) > > You use the Kassadin comparison as if Rengar does NOT have a good lategame. > > Rengar has quite a good lategame, at least as much as a melee assassin can have a good lategame. > > Don't shame me for pulling out the mad card when my character was under fire from the start. > > I would like a link to a confirmation of a Diana rework and a Fiddle rework. If, as you both said, ALL of those champs I listed are getting reworked, I would like to see that. fiddle already got a rework and he is fine and the next class rework is going to be the diver rework aka aatrox diana etc etc im not comparing rengar to kassadin but YOU ARE, look at your comment above lol are you trying to look like dumb or just trying to farm negative karma??
: The conditions don't matter, though. All that matters is that you are mad that rengar is gated by getting level 6, so you should be fighting for these champions too.
> The conditions don't matter Lol are you trolling me or you are really slow? how the conditions doesnt matter??? kassadin have a bad early stage to compensate the strong late game and fiddle have both balanced stages of the games, the others are getting reworked for something right... > All that matters is that you are mad look at me im spaceman i cannot say a decent argument so i found a really flawless logic but someone bashed her so lets say that person is mad/sad/crying etc etc > so you should be fighting for these champions too. Like i said they are getting reworked for some reason...
: i think there is a miscalculation in his ult somewhere. it feels like the visual circle of the ult jump isnt the actual range of the jump. it always seemed to me i had to get closer to actually jump. also the new scripting of the jump makes it so it doesnt persist when exiting bushes. so the jump range is all around smaller. <- this also means that you cant actually jump very far in the lanes for ganks, making you almost entirely reliant on the ult for ganks since you cant prepare ferocity before hand to bring the snare in the fight first thing
> [{quoted}](name=Sitris,realm=PBE,application-id=2EAF660193FA3B668D7234B3AEBB530C5AB7F651,discussion-id=Rn2w42n7,comment-id=002a,timestamp=2016-10-19T22:58:35.009+0000) > > i think there is a miscalculation in his ult somewhere. it feels like the visual circle of the ult jump isnt the actual range of the jump. it always seemed to me i had to get closer to actually jump. also the new scripting of the jump makes it so it doesnt persist when exiting bushes. so the jump range is all around smaller. &lt;- this also means that you cant actually jump very far in the lanes for ganks, making you almost entirely reliant on the ult for ganks since you cant prepare ferocity before hand to bring the snare in the fight first thing what´s your ping?
: You should probably start making threads about Diana then, or Akali. Why don't I just make you a list of people who have significant problems pre 6. {{champion:84}} {{champion:131}} {{champion:9}} {{champion:38}} {{champion:19}} and plenty of other champions only really unlock at level 6. It is ok to have power gated by your ultimate.
> [{quoted}](name=Spaceman5pff,realm=PBE,application-id=2EAF660193FA3B668D7234B3AEBB530C5AB7F651,discussion-id=Rn2w42n7,comment-id=000a0000000200000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-10-19T20:49:30.265+0000) > > You should probably start making threads about Diana then, or Akali. > Why don&#x27;t I just make you a list of people who have significant problems pre 6. > > {{champion:84}} {{champion:131}} {{champion:9}} {{champion:38}} {{champion:19}} and plenty of other champions only really unlock at level 6. > It is ok to have power gated by your ultimate. that´s why ww is gettint reworked next year, fiddle is not that bad, diana getting reworked maybe for the diver update and rengar is not like that... he already got a lot of "counterplay" that ferocity change made his ganks really bad they also reduced the slow duration of his normal e. by the way kassadin have a super retarded strong late game and akali is getting reworked maybe her laning phase is better you really should review your arguments ...
: you can leap with your ult....
> [{quoted}](name=Spaceman5pff,realm=PBE,application-id=2EAF660193FA3B668D7234B3AEBB530C5AB7F651,discussion-id=Rn2w42n7,comment-id=000a00000002000000000000,timestamp=2016-10-19T20:25:35.502+0000) > > you can leap with your ult.... pre-6
: Leap into combat (1 stack) Q (1 stack) W (1 stack) E (1 stack) now you have 4 ferocity and your snare is immediately available.
> [{quoted}](name=Spaceman5pff,realm=PBE,application-id=2EAF660193FA3B668D7234B3AEBB530C5AB7F651,discussion-id=Rn2w42n7,comment-id=000a000000020000,timestamp=2016-10-19T18:31:05.690+0000) > > Leap into combat (1 stack) Q (1 stack) W (1 stack) E (1 stack) now you have 4 ferocity and your snare is immediately available. lol sorry if im getting a bit agressive but are you dumb?? tell me how are u going to gank mid lane by leaping? top lane only if i get in position to pull of a jump, this means the needs to be shoved lol
: To make the hunt a two-way experience between Rengar and his opponents. It's possible he should be able to leap to anyone but only crit the Hunted guy.
Thanks for the answer but i just remembered right now that ganking with rengar prety much sucks because u cannot get enough stacks to stun someone.Are u planning to do something about that?
: [Assassins] Rengar Feedback Thread
Hi repertoir One question: Can u give context on why rengar can only jump on the nearest while ulted the rework itself looks cool but i dont like that change to his ultimate Thanks.

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