: Arcade Sona chroma is lovely! Although it does seem a bit leeched of colour due to the choice of tone used for her skirt. If we keep with the pearly theme, perhaps make the skirt a shade of pale light blue and keep the ribbons? Or keep the skirt the same but make the ribbons a different colour. The skirt and ribbons are too similar and it makes her look washed out. Also, she uses her base(?) particles in her AA rather than her Arcade AA, so please take a look into getting that fixed! {{sticker:sg-ahri-2}}
> [{quoted}](name=Crystalfrost,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=eEBJWP1R,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-06-15T15:14:07.141+0000) > > Arcade Sona chroma is lovely! Although it does seem a bit leeched of colour due to the choice of tone used for her skirt. If we keep with the pearly theme, perhaps make the skirt a shade of pale light blue and keep the ribbons? Or keep the skirt the same but make the ribbons a different colour. The skirt and ribbons are too similar and it makes her look washed out. > > Also, she uses her base(?) particles in her AA rather than her Arcade AA, so please take a look into getting that fixed! > {{sticker:sg-ahri-2}} Thanks for the feedback! The VFX on this skin is so old, the set-up is a bit wonky--we're looking into fixing it before deadline, thanks again for letting us know!
: My apologies if it sounded disrespectful. The skirt smells old, that grey doesn't really match the theme, the colorful squares were good on a dark background, but with that grey they looks more like patches than pixels. I suggest a more creamy white instead of the grey and maybe to change the ex colorful square ''pixels'' with something more fitting the new theme, maybe more stars? Also, why the start on her head waist are pink while the others on the skirt are gold? I think they would look better all the same color. Thank you for the reply!
> [{quoted}](name=Buffed Sona ,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=eEBJWP1R,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-12T18:53:53.723+0000) > > My apologies if it sounded disrespectful. > The skirt smells old, that grey doesn't really match the theme, the colorful squares were good on a dark background, but with that grey they looks more like patches than pixels. > I suggest a more creamy white instead of the grey and maybe to change the ex colorful square ''pixels'' with something more fitting the new theme, maybe more stars? > Also, why the start on her head waist are pink while the others on the skirt are gold? > I think they would look better all the same color. > Thank you for the reply! Not at all, totally understood, thank you for clarifying your feedback!
: About sona chroma: I think gloves looks a little off (Is green looking out of place). I suggest change it complete to light blue or change green for pink. Also will be nice if the hair is more blonde than yellow, but I know you guys want more fantasy colors for this theme, but I prefer it to be more like prestige cait. Also Riven chroma screams perfection, well done!
> [{quoted}](name=Moreno Fogoso,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=eEBJWP1R,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-06-12T13:14:58.482+0000) > > About sona chroma: I think gloves looks a little off (Is green looking out of place). I suggest change it complete to light blue or change green for pink. Also will be nice if the hair is more blonde than yellow, but I know you guys want more fantasy colors for this theme, but I prefer it to be more like prestige cait. > > Also Riven chroma screams perfection, well done! Thanks for the feedback! Definitely see what you mean about the gloves
: Hi, I just tested it on PBE and so far I am loving the VFX. The only thing I'd like to mention (besides the Splash Art), is that her walking animation felt really clunky in combination with the weapon. Don't know if thats just her normal animation, but it kinda feels clunky and definitely not good.
> [{quoted}](name=xMahari,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=nnwGxAtU,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-06-13T12:45:59.556+0000) > > Hi, I just tested it on PBE and so far I am loving the VFX. The only thing I'd like to mention (besides the Splash Art), is that her walking animation felt really clunky in combination with the weapon. Don't know if thats just her normal animation, but it kinda feels clunky and definitely not good. That's strange, we didn't change or update the walking / homeguard animations--perhaps since the new gun is larger by comparison, it feels clunkier? We don't want Caitlyn's basic features to feel different (walking, auto attacking, casting abilities) so the animations there are by and large unchanged--perhaps design-wise it's something for us to definitely think about more if we make bigger changes to take into consideration issues like this Thanks for the feedback!
: i love the fact that this one REALLY differentiates from the regular arcade caitlyn, caitlyn is one of my mains and i'm going to buy both versions! the only thing bothering me is that the headshot/ultimate are a bit underhwelming. {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}}
> [{quoted}](name=Jieun,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=nnwGxAtU,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-06-13T07:01:14.915+0000) > > i love the fact that this one REALLY differentiates from the regular arcade caitlyn, caitlyn is one of my mains and i'm going to buy both versions! > the only thing bothering me is that the headshot/ultimate are a bit underhwelming. > > {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}} Glad you like it! Ultimate underwhelming noted!
: See, this is how to make a Prestige skin! I'm still mad about the dumpster fire that is Prestige K/DA Evelynn though :(
> [{quoted}](name=MoreKalistaSkins,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=nnwGxAtU,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-06-12T23:31:44.043+0000) > > See, this is how to make a Prestige skin! I'm still mad about the dumpster fire that is Prestige K/DA Evelynn though :( Glad you like it! Sorry to hear about K/DA Evelynn Prestige :( We'll try to keep making Prestige better and better as we move forward
: now this is how a prestige skin should differ from the original, really nice job on this one Fizz one was nice too but still a bit too similar and this one is perfect feedback would be to have the front bit of her hat more pink-gold rather than like a magenta right now
> [{quoted}](name=PBE ProNoob,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=nnwGxAtU,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-06-12T20:00:42.448+0000) > > now this is how a prestige skin should differ from the original, really nice job on this one > > Fizz one was nice too but still a bit too similar and this one is perfect > > feedback would be to have the front bit of her hat more pink-gold rather than like a magenta right now I'm glad you like it! Fizz was definitely a bit more difficult, much less room to work with, which is why we focused on the ultimate a lot, to try to give him something really special--we'll definitely keep focusing on being unique from the parent skin moving forward with other Prestige skins Thanks for the feedback!
: Can you guys fix the splash art? Her neck and head are horribly disjointed from the rest of her body. It's not immediately noticeable but once you see it it's very distracting. Here's a quick mock up fix someone on Reddit did: https://i.redd.it/8t1u7ju6n0431.png
> [{quoted}](name=Tox715,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=nnwGxAtU,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-06-13T01:14:03.702+0000) > > Can you guys fix the splash art? Her neck and head are horribly disjointed from the rest of her body. It's not immediately noticeable but once you see it it's very distracting. Here's a quick mock up fix someone on Reddit did: https://i.redd.it/8t1u7ju6n0431.png Yeah, we received this feedback a lot, our splash artist has tweaked it to try and fix the issue, the new splash should be up soon (if not already)! Thanks for hitting us up about it!
: Hoping the splash isn't final, in the prestige version her head is floating. Took me a moment to notice but now I can't unsee it.
> [{quoted}](name=Dreadnova Pyke,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=nnwGxAtU,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-06-12T16:15:02.682+0000) > > Hoping the splash isn't final, in the prestige version her head is floating. Took me a moment to notice but now I can't unsee it. We've tweaked the splash as much as we can to fix the floating head / neck issue, thanks for letting us know!
: Even though I still hate the idea of "Prestige" in general, this one is nice. The gun looks really good. It would be nice if you could add a rainbow trail or something to the R though. The ult is usually either bigger and more apparent or has a different color. It looks too similar to her autos right now. And even though they look amazing, the traps are way too apparent with those huge diamonds on them. They better be not visible to the enemy. Really hope the way we get this is not by Prestige Points. I don't mind grinding for them and earning them at all, but no way I'm paying a fortune for a 1350rp quality skin.
> [{quoted}](name=TaricBestGirl,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=nnwGxAtU,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-12T10:59:18.089+0000) > > Even though I still hate the idea of "Prestige" in general, this one is nice. The gun looks really good. It would be nice if you could add a rainbow trail or something to the R though. The ult is usually either bigger and more apparent or has a different color. It looks too similar to her autos right now. And even though they look amazing, the traps are way too apparent with those huge diamonds on them. They better be not visible to the enemy. > > Really hope the way we get this is not by Prestige Points. I don't mind grinding for them and earning them at all, but no way I'm paying a fortune for a 1350rp quality skin. I hear ya, Prestige is in a weird place, but we wanna make it as great as possible so that the hard work invested in getting a Prestige feels worth it, we would never want anyone to feel like they would need to work this hard for a skin and get something mediocre We've fixed the traps (AFAIK, I'll double check it) to make them less loud, particularly for enemies who see it--as for the R, I'll pass it along to our artists and see if we can do something about it this patch (if not by next) Thanks again!
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: > **New Golden VFX:** Gold palette and patterns for her Battle Academia VFX. Not really lol. It actually looks like the other way around. But I like them better than the normal ones. Very good job! https://i.imgur.com/ua2Z87X.jpg[/img] https://i.imgur.com/xyzH72Z.jpg[/img]
> [{quoted}](name=TaricBestGirl,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=5EfLzT9G,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-05-01T15:23:31.809+0000) > > Not really lol. It actually looks like the other way around. But I like them better than the normal ones. Very good job! > > https://i.imgur.com/ua2Z87X.jpg[/img] > https://i.imgur.com/xyzH72Z.jpg[/img] Haha, I suppose you're right, I'm glad you like them though!
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: greetings, I want to try the chromas of the aspect of challenging ahri and the varus and karma conqueror but these can not acquire them because I do not have the basics of them, I want to buy them but those aspects do not appear in the store, how can I do to get them and thus be able to try the golden chromas?
> [{quoted}](name=Mastertheking,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=nvtXbl5I,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2019-04-05T07:34:01.714+0000) > > greetings, I want to try the chromas of the aspect of challenging ahri and the varus and karma conqueror but these can not acquire them because I do not have the basics of them, I want to buy them but those aspects do not appear in the store, how can I do to get them and thus be able to try the golden chromas? Sorry about that, the parent skins did not activate when they were meant to, they should be available now, sorry for any inconvenience it may have caused!
: Did Riot want to limit feedback on these chromas? The base skin is not available in shop so that the chroma can be purchased for those of us who are new to PBE.
> [{quoted}](name=GG Shiro,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=nvtXbl5I,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2019-04-08T02:02:52.108+0000) > > Did Riot want to limit feedback on these chromas? The base skin is not available in shop so that the chroma can be purchased for those of us who are new to PBE. That was not our intention, seems like not all the parent skins re-activated when they were meant to, they should be available now! Sorry for the inconvenience
: greetings, I want to try the chromas of the aspect of challenging ahri and the varus and karma conqueror but these can not acquire them because I do not have the basics of them, I want to buy them but those aspects do not appear in the store, how can I do to get them and thus be able to try the golden chromas?
> [{quoted}](name=Mastertheking,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=nvtXbl5I,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2019-04-05T07:34:01.714+0000) > > greetings, I want to try the chromas of the aspect of challenging ahri and the varus and karma conqueror but these can not acquire them because I do not have the basics of them, I want to buy them but those aspects do not appear in the store, how can I do to get them and thus be able to try the golden chromas? The parent skins should become available again during the MSI patch
: I'm extremely happy to finally have a nidalee chroma and for this skin too. Challenger nidalee was already one of if not her best skin but the original color choice was a pretty big problem with most nidalee players that I've talked too. However I'm seeing one really big complaint among nidalee players with the chroma and that is the fact that all her animations are still pink. If you could change her colors to better match the skin that would be great or even take the animations from her base skin or other skins even it would probably be much better.
> [{quoted}](name=WindSong,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=nvtXbl5I,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-04-03T21:44:56.529+0000) > > I'm extremely happy to finally have a nidalee chroma and for this skin too. Challenger nidalee was already one of if not her best skin but the original color choice was a pretty big problem with most nidalee players that I've talked too. However I'm seeing one really big complaint among nidalee players with the chroma and that is the fact that all her animations are still pink. If you could change her colors to better match the skin that would be great or even take the animations from her base skin or other skins even it would probably be much better. I completely understand where you're coming from, but unfortunately, we aren't changing any of the VFX for Chromas, so any VFX-related things will have the same colors as their parent skin
: i agree with you, Ahri's hair is the same color as the head piece.
> [{quoted}](name=Moonboy65,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=nvtXbl5I,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-04-03T16:34:24.210+0000) > > i agree with you, Ahri's hair is the same color as the head piece. Yeah, this is something we'll try to address, thanks for chiming in!
: Challenger Ahri looks amazing in gold, but the only issue i have is her Fox-Fire. It just doesn't fit the gold aesthetic of the chroma maybe change the color to a more orange-ish color with a bit of yellow?
> [{quoted}](name=Moonboy65,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=nvtXbl5I,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-04-03T16:33:03.626+0000) > > Challenger Ahri looks amazing in gold, but the only issue i have is her Fox-Fire. It just doesn't fit the gold aesthetic of the chroma maybe change the color to a more orange-ish color with a bit of yellow? I totally get what you mean, but unfortunately, we aren't changing any VFX for these Chromas =(
: I really like these chromas, Karma is gorgeous. :) However, Ahri's hair color is too blonde, it matches the headpiece too much.
> [{quoted}](name=Lil Lily,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=nvtXbl5I,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-04-03T15:11:51.246+0000) > > I really like these chromas, Karma is gorgeous. :) > However, Ahri's hair color is too blonde, it matches the headpiece too much. Good catch! Thanks for your feedback!
: I personally think crystals should look more reddish like the base skin, but not the exact same. in example the pure orange on Varus chroma gets me out of the theme, combining gold with red (pink on challenger skins) could be cooler than just orange. The orange in Alistar chroma is better, but i would make it even more reddish, just a little on all.
> [{quoted}](name=Cr2,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=nvtXbl5I,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-04-03T14:50:02.773+0000) > > I personally think crystals should look more reddish like the base skin, but not the exact same. > > in example the pure orange on Varus chroma gets me out of the theme, combining gold with red (pink on challenger skins) could be cooler than just orange. > The orange in Alistar chroma is better, but i would make it even more reddish, just a little on all. Thanks for the feedback! We definitely see Varus' crystal being way too orange, we'll see what we can do about them!
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: Hi, I am a representative from the Ivern Mains Discord. We've talked and we made a document to show you how we think the chromas should be tweaked to make them better. We've already sent this document to Riot Lexi but just in case you missed it, we posted it here : https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zYfAWHBDHbBKMCqGgyFzEtjD8SBI5dvKSit-jSvWtBM/edit
> [{quoted}](name=Goriz,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=lOPcMWaI,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-03-22T15:42:05.032+0000) > > Hi, I am a representative from the Ivern Mains Discord. We've talked and we made a document to show you how we think the chromas should be tweaked to make them better. We've already sent this document to Riot Lexi but just in case you missed it, we posted it here : > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zYfAWHBDHbBKMCqGgyFzEtjD8SBI5dvKSit-jSvWtBM/edit Thanks Goriz, this is great!
: This might not be relevant to the chromas but I really need to get my and many others opinion about the W heard. First of all, I think the chromas look good and give different looks which are very nice. Now to my point, the W on this skin NEEDS to change. If we go back to Candy King Ivern and the W on that skin, it was a slight change that didn't was too eye catching,which was perfect! As a Master player who mains Ivern i can't imagine to play with a skin that makes me look at the W and think: "why are there random sticks poking out the the bush, they are so out of place?". I would love to see the W change for the better and remove the sticks poking out and maybe implement a slightly different color to the bushes that he creates? Maybe it can be depending on the chroma he uses? For example, if I play with the Aquamarine chroma, the bushes will have a slightly blue bushcolor, that would make me super happy with the skin. Right now I sadly think the W looks so terrible and I might just stick to the Candy King Ivern skin instead but don't get me wrong, i really want Dunkmaster Ivern to be a skin that the Ivern-main can be proud of! I know all of this isnt relevant to you Orphyre but I beg you, pls get this point across to someone who are more resonsible for the W animation! Thanks and best regards, Wictrec ("EUW"), Abrahamsson ("PBE").
> [{quoted}](name=Abrahamsson,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=lOPcMWaI,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-03-20T11:09:13.622+0000) > > This might not be relevant to the chromas but I really need to get my and many others opinion about the W heard. > > First of all, I think the chromas look good and give different looks which are very nice. > > Now to my point, the W on this skin NEEDS to change. If we go back to Candy King Ivern and the W on that skin, it was a slight change that didn't was too eye catching,which was perfect! As a Master player who mains Ivern i can't imagine to play with a skin that makes me look at the W and think: "why are there random sticks poking out the the bush, they are so out of place?". > > I would love to see the W change for the better and remove the sticks poking out and maybe implement a slightly different color to the bushes that he creates? Maybe it can be depending on the chroma he uses? For example, if I play with the Aquamarine chroma, the bushes will have a slightly blue bushcolor, that would make me super happy with the skin. > > Right now I sadly think the W looks so terrible and I might just stick to the Candy King Ivern skin instead but don't get me wrong, i really want Dunkmaster Ivern to be a skin that the Ivern-main can be proud of! > > I know all of this isnt relevant to you Orphyre but I beg you, pls get this point across to someone who are more resonsible for the W animation! > > Thanks and best regards, > Wictrec ("EUW"), Abrahamsson ("PBE"). Thanks for your feedback! I recommend posting this in the Dunkmaster Ivern feedback thread if you could too, as the sticks poking out of the bush are all from the parent skin--the Chromas haven't done anything to change these As for different bush colors, I think there's some limitations to that, as not all bush colors will look appropriate, but I do understand what you mean, having each Chromas' bush be slightly different would be cool I'll definitely pass along your feedback about the push to the team working on the Dunkmaster Ivern parent skin!
: > [{quoted}](name=NagatoFan1,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=lOPcMWaI,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-03-20T06:26:49.056+0000) > > Is this skin not going to be a PBE feedback post? Not the Chromas just the base skin. Found [here](https://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/client-new-features-feedback/FYbpdpjy-pbe-bugs-feedback-thread-dunkmaster-ivern)
> [{quoted}](name=Amy Sery,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=lOPcMWaI,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-03-20T07:18:45.563+0000) > > Found [here](https://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/client-new-features-feedback/FYbpdpjy-pbe-bugs-feedback-thread-dunkmaster-ivern) Thanks Amy!
: Is this skin not going to be a PBE feedback post? Not the Chromas just the base skin.
> [{quoted}](name=NagatoFan1,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=lOPcMWaI,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-03-20T06:26:49.056+0000) > > Is this skin not going to be a PBE feedback post? Not the Chromas just the base skin. Amy linked it below, thanks!
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: To be honest after the previous Prestige skins like Aatrox’s, this skin really hits the spot. I haven’t liked any of them ever since Kai’Sa’s. This is how they should at least look. The crown and crystal trident does make him look prestigious. Hope the newer ones will look even better. But the way to receive them is still really wrong. I want to earn this by working hard for it, not by paying a fortune. I think it was okay to buy a pass and grind for it. A lot of people seem to like that way as well. I wonder why you guys changed lt. Because there is no way for me to pay for any of these new Prestlge skins. And I also wonder why it was decided to give a Prestige skin to only one side in a VS event, because it’s not really fair. Both of the Team Dog skins already look better in my opinion, and the fact that you guys gave the Prestige skin to their side makes it hard for me to root for Team Cat. Wish we got something as well. This is just my opinion. ;-;
> [{quoted}](name=TaricBestGirl,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=HjBB4qZf,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-03-07T20:09:12.631+0000) > > To be honest after the previous Prestige skins like Aatrox’s, this skin really hits the spot. I haven’t liked any of them ever since Kai’Sa’s. This is how they should at least look. The crown and crystal trident does make him look prestigious. Hope the newer ones will look even better. > > But the way to receive them is still really wrong. I want to earn this by working hard for it, not by paying a fortune. I think it was okay to buy a pass and grind for it. A lot of people seem to like that way as well. I wonder why you guys changed lt. Because there is no way for me to pay for any of these new Prestlge skins. > > And I also wonder why it was decided to give a Prestige skin to only one side in a VS event, because it’s not really fair. Both of the Team Dog skins already look better in my opinion, and the fact that you guys gave the Prestige skin to their side makes it hard for me to root for Team Cat. Wish we got something as well. This is just my opinion. ;-; I'm glad you feel good about it! We've taken a lot of the feedback from the previous Prestige skins, and are trying to make these skins feel a lot more special than they have in the past. I can't promise that "Prestige" and "Royal" will always align like they have in this skin, but we're always looking for ways to further improve them. I understand where you're coming from about how they're obtained and the feeling that only our Doggo sides got a Prestige version whereas our Cat-friendly side didn't, you make really good points, I'll pass that feedback along to our Store team
: Hello! The skin's model is amazing! The little crown is an nice addition! But there's something I want to talk about his ultimate ability: the flat-faced pug. You see, flat faced (brachycephalic) pugs have a lot of health problems like breathing difficulties, weight gain, difficulties to keep the body temperature stable and many others... They are like this cause pet breeders and buyers tried to make this dog breed as cute as possible while not caring for the physical disabilities that would affect the dog. One of the campaigns to lower the flat-faced pug demand is to stop promoting them as a trendy and desirable breed. I know it would take a lot of work to replace the entire model but you guys should just adjust the pug's face a bit so that he would look like an healthy pug! Search for retro pugs! http://imgur.com/a/AQxZQuR See? A cool, healthy and happy fella! Also if you did read til here, I recommend reading this article too: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/pets/news-features/pug-bulldog-ban-could-way-stop-suffering/ Thank you for making such a cool event with our loved doges!
> [{quoted}](name=sedento por pica,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=HjBB4qZf,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-03-06T13:00:23.119+0000) > > Hello! The skin's model is amazing! The little crown is an nice addition! But there's something I want to talk about his ultimate ability: the flat-faced pug. > > You see, flat faced (brachycephalic) pugs have a lot of health problems like breathing difficulties, weight gain, difficulties to keep the body temperature stable and many others... They are like this cause pet breeders and buyers tried to make this dog breed as cute as possible while not caring for the physical disabilities that would affect the dog. > > One of the campaigns to lower the flat-faced pug demand is to stop promoting them as a trendy and desirable breed. > > I know it would take a lot of work to replace the entire model but you guys should just adjust the pug's face a bit so that he would look like an healthy pug! Search for retro pugs! > > http://imgur.com/a/AQxZQuR > > See? A cool, healthy and happy fella! > > Also if you did read til here, I recommend reading this article too: > https://www.telegraph.co.uk/pets/news-features/pug-bulldog-ban-could-way-stop-suffering/ > > Thank you for making such a cool event with our loved doges! Wow, that's amazing, I didn't know that at all. I'll pass along the information, and see if there's anything we can do about it in the timeline we have left.
: different sounds? i think too squeaky if the trident is crystals now, and the meat on the ulti too
> [{quoted}](name=PBE ProNoob,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=HjBB4qZf,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-03-06T12:53:14.832+0000) > > different sounds? i think too squeaky if the trident is crystals now, and the meat on the ulti too This is a really fair point, thanks for the feedback! How do you feel about the new visuals themselves?
: Tiger chroma for rengar pluz and fruit dagger really dont match at all.
> [{quoted}](name=Hayzal,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=rHNKLH12,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-03-06T12:50:10.398+0000) > > Tiger chroma for rengar pluz and fruit dagger really dont match at all. Are you referring to the Citrine version? What do you think would be a better dagger for him?
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: I really love the Tahm Kench skin but i feel his chromas are a little lacking when you compare to Sejuani. While the colors are great my main issue is that they dont feel as if they change the texture detail much. I haven't seen much of the chromas in game but the big blank belly area and minimal changes to the nostrils and detailing contribute to this. I do recognize he has slightly different face marking and design on the top of his hat but i dont feel like this is impactful enough and they feel very minor compared to something like sejuani’s pig. Perhaps a small decal on his belly could help? My other complaint is quite minor. I was very happy that Sylas’s ruby chroma is meant to look like Blood Moon but I just wish his tattoo design was a bit different too. He looks quite similar to Blood Moon Aatrox though so maybe that chroma could also be pushed a tiny bit further given its a ruby. Very good work as always! Particularly impressed with the wonderland Fiora and Sejani’s cute pig!
Thanks for the feedback! It's a really good point about Tahm Kench, the team had felt that adding too many complications to the stomach may make the overall skin too busy, but I certainly understand what you mean by them feeling like they don't seem to have changed very much. I'll talk with the team about it and see if there's anything we can do =) I've also passed on the comment about Sylas, but I'm not sure if we'll be able to add another tattoo--all of the Sylas Chromas have the same tattoo (albeit some are harder to see than others) Glad to hear you're enjoying Fiora and Sejuani though, thanks again for all your feedback!
: Alright, so, no Esmerald League Partner Program Chroma for now?
Correct, there will be no League Partner (Emerald) Chromas in these sets
: On the Tahm Pearl(?) chroma, the red eyes are a big turn down for me... Please make it a blueish/greenish color!! I think it would look a lot better! Something like the black Tahm's eyes. But I still think the base gold is quite lacking in color. It looks way too white for me. Otherwise, good job! I love them.
Thanks for the feedback! I've passed on the feedback to the team =) As for your comments about the base one, you should let them know in their feedback discussion channel too! https://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/client-new-features-feedback/dp4PvPaL-pbe-bugs-feedback-thread-coin-emperor-tahm-kench
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: I kind of agree with this. I do miss the idea of having chromas for base skins, but when you think about it, a lot of older skins are today's equivalent of chromas 1.0. Think of Snowbunny or Leopard Nidalee, so I see why they stopped. Before Chromas 2.0 came out I had kind of hoped that Chromas would be linked to champion mastery so there's a bit more reward to hitting masteery 7 or something. I get that is A LOT o f backlog, but given the rate they pump out chromas now I think it wouldve worked.
That could be cool, but yeah, that'd be like a full project that we'd have to work on and release all at one time (we wouldn't want to leave a few Champions out of the running for getting Chromas as a reward like that) if that was indeed the model Certainly a cool model to think about though
: I don't see anything bad with these really. I think they are nice. Even though they get out of the Blood Moon theme, you sometimes get bored playing with the same skin. And it's not like they're the skin itself, they're just optional. I also would like to ask a question. Do you guys still consider giving chromas to base skins like you have done in the past with Caitlyn, Lucian, Zac etc.? I still use the Pink Caitlyn or Bubblegum Zac from time to time. Because some champions have really good base skins and I would really like such a thing. Especially on Aurelion Sol! He might have the best looking base in the whole game. He doesn't have much skin neither and even though I do not know how long it takes to make a chroma, I would assume it's easier to make than a skin from scratch. Seriosuly, I doubt that you guys can give him a better looking skin than his normal one :D Even though I have the Ashen Lord skin for him which I bought in his release, I always use the base one. Personally I think that the Cosmic skin line has the best looking chromas in the whole game. Ashe, Xin, Lulu... All of their chromas were amazing. Would you guys consider giving Aurelion Sol something like that? I can't talk for everyone but I feel like people would really appreciate it! And I also have a problem with the older chromas. They show their name in the loading screen like: Caitlyn Rebel or Morgana Haunt. I assume that you guys will take care of the Morgana one since she is getting a rework but could you guys remove those for consistency. They also are not named after gems neither but that must be a little hard to change I guess since they don't have specific colors like the newer ones to make them name like that easy. And could you add something to the loading screen to indicate that someone is using a chroma, like a paint drop maybe. Since you guys started to release both the skins and their chromas at the same time, sometimes it's hard to tell if a player is using a chroma or not. Sorry if my questions are odd :P Thanks for taking your time to answer these. ^^
Lotta great points here, let's tackle 'em one by one: 1) Base Skin Chromas I can see how in situations where a Champion doesn't have a lot of skins and their base is really good, this can be really high value, it's definitely something for us to consider and talk about with the team (we have an ASol main on the team who I'm sure will agree wholeheartedly with you on this case) 2) Older Chromas Naming This is certainly something we can think about fixing, but it would take a bit of work particularly with our Localization team. I'll have to chat with them and our Store team to make sure everyone's on the same page before we can make a change, which is exactly what I'll do =) 3) Loading Screen Chromas Indication I think this would be a great addition. We currently don't / aren't really able to change Loading Screen at the moment, as that is owned by another team, but it's something we can certainly talk to them about and see if we can figure something out TL;DR: There's a lotta cross-team chatting that needs to happen, so I'll get on that!
: I definitely think Star Guardians would be a good candidate for chromas, their thematic doesn’t stick to quite the same status quo in the way that Bloodmoon does (in color standards at least), but that’s just my opinion. Even Project would fall under that same category for me. We’ve had red, pink, blue, etc. project skins but Bloodmoon has just always been sort of linear in color. Either way, I do appreciate your explanation and attempts at branching out! It definitely helps my opinion on them.
Yep! I think those thematics could work well too. More bright and vibrant thematics open up the way for us generally in Chromas, with the caveat that sometimes these thematics have very specific colors for specific Champions, and we don't want to mess around with that too much either, it's all a balancing act We've definitely had better times with things like Mecha or April Fools stuff, and then there was High Noon which was just quite difficult due to most of the palette needing to be dark or black (resulting in tons of blending, lack of uniqueness, and a multitude of other problems) I think Blood Moon, despite us being off thematic a bit by going for a blue or whatnot, still works quite well, as the primary color of the thematic isn't "black" but just a deep, saturated red, which we could emulate with other colors too
: Honestly if having the thematics be unclear is a probably (although personally I don't think many are thinking that deeply about it) you might just want to reapproach how you name chromas, or even how you present them in the first place. So like maybe you'd present Bloodmoon Pyke (Aquamarine) as like Bluemoon Pyke or a blue chroma for Project Zed could be like rebel zed or something, lean into it more as what ifs. Again though skins are already alternate fantasies of lore that must people aren't really looking too deeply into anyway, and even when they do is already murky at best for most skins. I don't think people are going to be delving to deep into the meaning behind why Project Ashe is suddenly red, they're just gonna think it's a cool color on her.
Yeah, I think that giving them unique names that make them more "thematically accurate" would be confusing for most people and the product as a whole A little bit of alternate fantasy and thematic inaccuracy for the sake of simplicity I think is helpful Like Lexical said, Chromas is there to try and give players options to customize skins that they already enjoy, but perhaps in another palette, but something that still seems appropriate for the theme, generally--nothing too canon in our Chromas
: Are previous Blood Moon skins going to get this treatment, too? I would love to play Blood Moon Talon in purple for example
You and me both, Talon's one of my main champs! Right now, the old Blood Moons are not on our to do list, but that's not to say that they can't be. I'll definitely add it to our player requested backlog :)
: they look really nice, I'm more curious to the names/color choices as Obsidian Pyke this time looks more like Amethyst and Obsidian Sivir looks more like Peridot
I think it's heavily due to the angle. Obsidian is typically black for us, but then the secondary color we try to leave up in the air depending on what looks best for the skin, and I think from the angle we see here the secondary colors stand out quite a lot (their weapons essentially)
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: Whats with the partner chroma being brown, and the actual green chroma is being packaged as yellow? This is really weird.
I think it's a bug, seems like some of the names are in the wrong order (or the texture was applied to the wrong one)
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