: greetings, I want to try the chromas of the aspect of challenging ahri and the varus and karma conqueror but these can not acquire them because I do not have the basics of them, I want to buy them but those aspects do not appear in the store, how can I do to get them and thus be able to try the golden chromas?
> [{quoted}](name=Mastertheking,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=nvtXbl5I,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2019-04-05T07:34:01.714+0000) > > greetings, I want to try the chromas of the aspect of challenging ahri and the varus and karma conqueror but these can not acquire them because I do not have the basics of them, I want to buy them but those aspects do not appear in the store, how can I do to get them and thus be able to try the golden chromas? Sorry about that, the parent skins did not activate when they were meant to, they should be available now, sorry for any inconvenience it may have caused!
: Did Riot want to limit feedback on these chromas? The base skin is not available in shop so that the chroma can be purchased for those of us who are new to PBE.
> [{quoted}](name=GG Shiro,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=nvtXbl5I,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2019-04-08T02:02:52.108+0000) > > Did Riot want to limit feedback on these chromas? The base skin is not available in shop so that the chroma can be purchased for those of us who are new to PBE. That was not our intention, seems like not all the parent skins re-activated when they were meant to, they should be available now! Sorry for the inconvenience
: greetings, I want to try the chromas of the aspect of challenging ahri and the varus and karma conqueror but these can not acquire them because I do not have the basics of them, I want to buy them but those aspects do not appear in the store, how can I do to get them and thus be able to try the golden chromas?
> [{quoted}](name=Mastertheking,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=nvtXbl5I,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2019-04-05T07:34:01.714+0000) > > greetings, I want to try the chromas of the aspect of challenging ahri and the varus and karma conqueror but these can not acquire them because I do not have the basics of them, I want to buy them but those aspects do not appear in the store, how can I do to get them and thus be able to try the golden chromas? The parent skins should become available again during the MSI patch
: I'm extremely happy to finally have a nidalee chroma and for this skin too. Challenger nidalee was already one of if not her best skin but the original color choice was a pretty big problem with most nidalee players that I've talked too. However I'm seeing one really big complaint among nidalee players with the chroma and that is the fact that all her animations are still pink. If you could change her colors to better match the skin that would be great or even take the animations from her base skin or other skins even it would probably be much better.
> [{quoted}](name=WindSong,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=nvtXbl5I,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-04-03T21:44:56.529+0000) > > I'm extremely happy to finally have a nidalee chroma and for this skin too. Challenger nidalee was already one of if not her best skin but the original color choice was a pretty big problem with most nidalee players that I've talked too. However I'm seeing one really big complaint among nidalee players with the chroma and that is the fact that all her animations are still pink. If you could change her colors to better match the skin that would be great or even take the animations from her base skin or other skins even it would probably be much better. I completely understand where you're coming from, but unfortunately, we aren't changing any of the VFX for Chromas, so any VFX-related things will have the same colors as their parent skin
: i agree with you, Ahri's hair is the same color as the head piece.
> [{quoted}](name=Moonboy65,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=nvtXbl5I,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-04-03T16:34:24.210+0000) > > i agree with you, Ahri's hair is the same color as the head piece. Yeah, this is something we'll try to address, thanks for chiming in!
: Challenger Ahri looks amazing in gold, but the only issue i have is her Fox-Fire. It just doesn't fit the gold aesthetic of the chroma maybe change the color to a more orange-ish color with a bit of yellow?
> [{quoted}](name=Moonboy65,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=nvtXbl5I,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-04-03T16:33:03.626+0000) > > Challenger Ahri looks amazing in gold, but the only issue i have is her Fox-Fire. It just doesn't fit the gold aesthetic of the chroma maybe change the color to a more orange-ish color with a bit of yellow? I totally get what you mean, but unfortunately, we aren't changing any VFX for these Chromas =(
: I really like these chromas, Karma is gorgeous. :) However, Ahri's hair color is too blonde, it matches the headpiece too much.
> [{quoted}](name=Lil Lily,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=nvtXbl5I,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-04-03T15:11:51.246+0000) > > I really like these chromas, Karma is gorgeous. :) > However, Ahri's hair color is too blonde, it matches the headpiece too much. Good catch! Thanks for your feedback!
: I personally think crystals should look more reddish like the base skin, but not the exact same. in example the pure orange on Varus chroma gets me out of the theme, combining gold with red (pink on challenger skins) could be cooler than just orange. The orange in Alistar chroma is better, but i would make it even more reddish, just a little on all.
> [{quoted}](name=Cr2,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=nvtXbl5I,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-04-03T14:50:02.773+0000) > > I personally think crystals should look more reddish like the base skin, but not the exact same. > > in example the pure orange on Varus chroma gets me out of the theme, combining gold with red (pink on challenger skins) could be cooler than just orange. > The orange in Alistar chroma is better, but i would make it even more reddish, just a little on all. Thanks for the feedback! We definitely see Varus' crystal being way too orange, we'll see what we can do about them!
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: Hi, I am a representative from the Ivern Mains Discord. We've talked and we made a document to show you how we think the chromas should be tweaked to make them better. We've already sent this document to Riot Lexi but just in case you missed it, we posted it here : https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zYfAWHBDHbBKMCqGgyFzEtjD8SBI5dvKSit-jSvWtBM/edit
> [{quoted}](name=Goriz,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=lOPcMWaI,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-03-22T15:42:05.032+0000) > > Hi, I am a representative from the Ivern Mains Discord. We've talked and we made a document to show you how we think the chromas should be tweaked to make them better. We've already sent this document to Riot Lexi but just in case you missed it, we posted it here : > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zYfAWHBDHbBKMCqGgyFzEtjD8SBI5dvKSit-jSvWtBM/edit Thanks Goriz, this is great!
: This might not be relevant to the chromas but I really need to get my and many others opinion about the W heard. First of all, I think the chromas look good and give different looks which are very nice. Now to my point, the W on this skin NEEDS to change. If we go back to Candy King Ivern and the W on that skin, it was a slight change that didn't was too eye catching,which was perfect! As a Master player who mains Ivern i can't imagine to play with a skin that makes me look at the W and think: "why are there random sticks poking out the the bush, they are so out of place?". I would love to see the W change for the better and remove the sticks poking out and maybe implement a slightly different color to the bushes that he creates? Maybe it can be depending on the chroma he uses? For example, if I play with the Aquamarine chroma, the bushes will have a slightly blue bushcolor, that would make me super happy with the skin. Right now I sadly think the W looks so terrible and I might just stick to the Candy King Ivern skin instead but don't get me wrong, i really want Dunkmaster Ivern to be a skin that the Ivern-main can be proud of! I know all of this isnt relevant to you Orphyre but I beg you, pls get this point across to someone who are more resonsible for the W animation! Thanks and best regards, Wictrec ("EUW"), Abrahamsson ("PBE").
> [{quoted}](name=Abrahamsson,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=lOPcMWaI,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-03-20T11:09:13.622+0000) > > This might not be relevant to the chromas but I really need to get my and many others opinion about the W heard. > > First of all, I think the chromas look good and give different looks which are very nice. > > Now to my point, the W on this skin NEEDS to change. If we go back to Candy King Ivern and the W on that skin, it was a slight change that didn't was too eye catching,which was perfect! As a Master player who mains Ivern i can't imagine to play with a skin that makes me look at the W and think: "why are there random sticks poking out the the bush, they are so out of place?". > > I would love to see the W change for the better and remove the sticks poking out and maybe implement a slightly different color to the bushes that he creates? Maybe it can be depending on the chroma he uses? For example, if I play with the Aquamarine chroma, the bushes will have a slightly blue bushcolor, that would make me super happy with the skin. > > Right now I sadly think the W looks so terrible and I might just stick to the Candy King Ivern skin instead but don't get me wrong, i really want Dunkmaster Ivern to be a skin that the Ivern-main can be proud of! > > I know all of this isnt relevant to you Orphyre but I beg you, pls get this point across to someone who are more resonsible for the W animation! > > Thanks and best regards, > Wictrec ("EUW"), Abrahamsson ("PBE"). Thanks for your feedback! I recommend posting this in the Dunkmaster Ivern feedback thread if you could too, as the sticks poking out of the bush are all from the parent skin--the Chromas haven't done anything to change these As for different bush colors, I think there's some limitations to that, as not all bush colors will look appropriate, but I do understand what you mean, having each Chromas' bush be slightly different would be cool I'll definitely pass along your feedback about the push to the team working on the Dunkmaster Ivern parent skin!
: > [{quoted}](name=NagatoFan1,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=lOPcMWaI,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-03-20T06:26:49.056+0000) > > Is this skin not going to be a PBE feedback post? Not the Chromas just the base skin. Found [here](https://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/client-new-features-feedback/FYbpdpjy-pbe-bugs-feedback-thread-dunkmaster-ivern)
> [{quoted}](name=Amy Sery,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=lOPcMWaI,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-03-20T07:18:45.563+0000) > > Found [here](https://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/client-new-features-feedback/FYbpdpjy-pbe-bugs-feedback-thread-dunkmaster-ivern) Thanks Amy!
: Is this skin not going to be a PBE feedback post? Not the Chromas just the base skin.
> [{quoted}](name=NagatoFan1,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=lOPcMWaI,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-03-20T06:26:49.056+0000) > > Is this skin not going to be a PBE feedback post? Not the Chromas just the base skin. Amy linked it below, thanks!
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: To be honest after the previous Prestige skins like Aatrox’s, this skin really hits the spot. I haven’t liked any of them ever since Kai’Sa’s. This is how they should at least look. The crown and crystal trident does make him look prestigious. Hope the newer ones will look even better. But the way to receive them is still really wrong. I want to earn this by working hard for it, not by paying a fortune. I think it was okay to buy a pass and grind for it. A lot of people seem to like that way as well. I wonder why you guys changed lt. Because there is no way for me to pay for any of these new Prestlge skins. And I also wonder why it was decided to give a Prestige skin to only one side in a VS event, because it’s not really fair. Both of the Team Dog skins already look better in my opinion, and the fact that you guys gave the Prestige skin to their side makes it hard for me to root for Team Cat. Wish we got something as well. This is just my opinion. ;-;
> [{quoted}](name=TaricBestGirl,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=HjBB4qZf,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-03-07T20:09:12.631+0000) > > To be honest after the previous Prestige skins like Aatrox’s, this skin really hits the spot. I haven’t liked any of them ever since Kai’Sa’s. This is how they should at least look. The crown and crystal trident does make him look prestigious. Hope the newer ones will look even better. > > But the way to receive them is still really wrong. I want to earn this by working hard for it, not by paying a fortune. I think it was okay to buy a pass and grind for it. A lot of people seem to like that way as well. I wonder why you guys changed lt. Because there is no way for me to pay for any of these new Prestlge skins. > > And I also wonder why it was decided to give a Prestige skin to only one side in a VS event, because it’s not really fair. Both of the Team Dog skins already look better in my opinion, and the fact that you guys gave the Prestige skin to their side makes it hard for me to root for Team Cat. Wish we got something as well. This is just my opinion. ;-; I'm glad you feel good about it! We've taken a lot of the feedback from the previous Prestige skins, and are trying to make these skins feel a lot more special than they have in the past. I can't promise that "Prestige" and "Royal" will always align like they have in this skin, but we're always looking for ways to further improve them. I understand where you're coming from about how they're obtained and the feeling that only our Doggo sides got a Prestige version whereas our Cat-friendly side didn't, you make really good points, I'll pass that feedback along to our Store team
: Hello! The skin's model is amazing! The little crown is an nice addition! But there's something I want to talk about his ultimate ability: the flat-faced pug. You see, flat faced (brachycephalic) pugs have a lot of health problems like breathing difficulties, weight gain, difficulties to keep the body temperature stable and many others... They are like this cause pet breeders and buyers tried to make this dog breed as cute as possible while not caring for the physical disabilities that would affect the dog. One of the campaigns to lower the flat-faced pug demand is to stop promoting them as a trendy and desirable breed. I know it would take a lot of work to replace the entire model but you guys should just adjust the pug's face a bit so that he would look like an healthy pug! Search for retro pugs! http://imgur.com/a/AQxZQuR See? A cool, healthy and happy fella! Also if you did read til here, I recommend reading this article too: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/pets/news-features/pug-bulldog-ban-could-way-stop-suffering/ Thank you for making such a cool event with our loved doges!
> [{quoted}](name=sedento por pica,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=HjBB4qZf,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-03-06T13:00:23.119+0000) > > Hello! The skin's model is amazing! The little crown is an nice addition! But there's something I want to talk about his ultimate ability: the flat-faced pug. > > You see, flat faced (brachycephalic) pugs have a lot of health problems like breathing difficulties, weight gain, difficulties to keep the body temperature stable and many others... They are like this cause pet breeders and buyers tried to make this dog breed as cute as possible while not caring for the physical disabilities that would affect the dog. > > One of the campaigns to lower the flat-faced pug demand is to stop promoting them as a trendy and desirable breed. > > I know it would take a lot of work to replace the entire model but you guys should just adjust the pug's face a bit so that he would look like an healthy pug! Search for retro pugs! > > http://imgur.com/a/AQxZQuR > > See? A cool, healthy and happy fella! > > Also if you did read til here, I recommend reading this article too: > https://www.telegraph.co.uk/pets/news-features/pug-bulldog-ban-could-way-stop-suffering/ > > Thank you for making such a cool event with our loved doges! Wow, that's amazing, I didn't know that at all. I'll pass along the information, and see if there's anything we can do about it in the timeline we have left.
: different sounds? i think too squeaky if the trident is crystals now, and the meat on the ulti too
> [{quoted}](name=PBE ProNoob,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=HjBB4qZf,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-03-06T12:53:14.832+0000) > > different sounds? i think too squeaky if the trident is crystals now, and the meat on the ulti too This is a really fair point, thanks for the feedback! How do you feel about the new visuals themselves?
: Tiger chroma for rengar pluz and fruit dagger really dont match at all.
> [{quoted}](name=Hayzal,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=rHNKLH12,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-03-06T12:50:10.398+0000) > > Tiger chroma for rengar pluz and fruit dagger really dont match at all. Are you referring to the Citrine version? What do you think would be a better dagger for him?
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: I really love the Tahm Kench skin but i feel his chromas are a little lacking when you compare to Sejuani. While the colors are great my main issue is that they dont feel as if they change the texture detail much. I haven't seen much of the chromas in game but the big blank belly area and minimal changes to the nostrils and detailing contribute to this. I do recognize he has slightly different face marking and design on the top of his hat but i dont feel like this is impactful enough and they feel very minor compared to something like sejuani’s pig. Perhaps a small decal on his belly could help? My other complaint is quite minor. I was very happy that Sylas’s ruby chroma is meant to look like Blood Moon but I just wish his tattoo design was a bit different too. He looks quite similar to Blood Moon Aatrox though so maybe that chroma could also be pushed a tiny bit further given its a ruby. Very good work as always! Particularly impressed with the wonderland Fiora and Sejani’s cute pig!
Thanks for the feedback! It's a really good point about Tahm Kench, the team had felt that adding too many complications to the stomach may make the overall skin too busy, but I certainly understand what you mean by them feeling like they don't seem to have changed very much. I'll talk with the team about it and see if there's anything we can do =) I've also passed on the comment about Sylas, but I'm not sure if we'll be able to add another tattoo--all of the Sylas Chromas have the same tattoo (albeit some are harder to see than others) Glad to hear you're enjoying Fiora and Sejuani though, thanks again for all your feedback!
: Alright, so, no Esmerald League Partner Program Chroma for now?
Correct, there will be no League Partner (Emerald) Chromas in these sets
: On the Tahm Pearl(?) chroma, the red eyes are a big turn down for me... Please make it a blueish/greenish color!! I think it would look a lot better! Something like the black Tahm's eyes. But I still think the base gold is quite lacking in color. It looks way too white for me. Otherwise, good job! I love them.
Thanks for the feedback! I've passed on the feedback to the team =) As for your comments about the base one, you should let them know in their feedback discussion channel too! https://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/client-new-features-feedback/dp4PvPaL-pbe-bugs-feedback-thread-coin-emperor-tahm-kench
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: I kind of agree with this. I do miss the idea of having chromas for base skins, but when you think about it, a lot of older skins are today's equivalent of chromas 1.0. Think of Snowbunny or Leopard Nidalee, so I see why they stopped. Before Chromas 2.0 came out I had kind of hoped that Chromas would be linked to champion mastery so there's a bit more reward to hitting masteery 7 or something. I get that is A LOT o f backlog, but given the rate they pump out chromas now I think it wouldve worked.
That could be cool, but yeah, that'd be like a full project that we'd have to work on and release all at one time (we wouldn't want to leave a few Champions out of the running for getting Chromas as a reward like that) if that was indeed the model Certainly a cool model to think about though
: I don't see anything bad with these really. I think they are nice. Even though they get out of the Blood Moon theme, you sometimes get bored playing with the same skin. And it's not like they're the skin itself, they're just optional. I also would like to ask a question. Do you guys still consider giving chromas to base skins like you have done in the past with Caitlyn, Lucian, Zac etc.? I still use the Pink Caitlyn or Bubblegum Zac from time to time. Because some champions have really good base skins and I would really like such a thing. Especially on Aurelion Sol! He might have the best looking base in the whole game. He doesn't have much skin neither and even though I do not know how long it takes to make a chroma, I would assume it's easier to make than a skin from scratch. Seriosuly, I doubt that you guys can give him a better looking skin than his normal one :D Even though I have the Ashen Lord skin for him which I bought in his release, I always use the base one. Personally I think that the Cosmic skin line has the best looking chromas in the whole game. Ashe, Xin, Lulu... All of their chromas were amazing. Would you guys consider giving Aurelion Sol something like that? I can't talk for everyone but I feel like people would really appreciate it! And I also have a problem with the older chromas. They show their name in the loading screen like: Caitlyn Rebel or Morgana Haunt. I assume that you guys will take care of the Morgana one since she is getting a rework but could you guys remove those for consistency. They also are not named after gems neither but that must be a little hard to change I guess since they don't have specific colors like the newer ones to make them name like that easy. And could you add something to the loading screen to indicate that someone is using a chroma, like a paint drop maybe. Since you guys started to release both the skins and their chromas at the same time, sometimes it's hard to tell if a player is using a chroma or not. Sorry if my questions are odd :P Thanks for taking your time to answer these. ^^
Lotta great points here, let's tackle 'em one by one: 1) Base Skin Chromas I can see how in situations where a Champion doesn't have a lot of skins and their base is really good, this can be really high value, it's definitely something for us to consider and talk about with the team (we have an ASol main on the team who I'm sure will agree wholeheartedly with you on this case) 2) Older Chromas Naming This is certainly something we can think about fixing, but it would take a bit of work particularly with our Localization team. I'll have to chat with them and our Store team to make sure everyone's on the same page before we can make a change, which is exactly what I'll do =) 3) Loading Screen Chromas Indication I think this would be a great addition. We currently don't / aren't really able to change Loading Screen at the moment, as that is owned by another team, but it's something we can certainly talk to them about and see if we can figure something out TL;DR: There's a lotta cross-team chatting that needs to happen, so I'll get on that!
: I definitely think Star Guardians would be a good candidate for chromas, their thematic doesn’t stick to quite the same status quo in the way that Bloodmoon does (in color standards at least), but that’s just my opinion. Even Project would fall under that same category for me. We’ve had red, pink, blue, etc. project skins but Bloodmoon has just always been sort of linear in color. Either way, I do appreciate your explanation and attempts at branching out! It definitely helps my opinion on them.
Yep! I think those thematics could work well too. More bright and vibrant thematics open up the way for us generally in Chromas, with the caveat that sometimes these thematics have very specific colors for specific Champions, and we don't want to mess around with that too much either, it's all a balancing act We've definitely had better times with things like Mecha or April Fools stuff, and then there was High Noon which was just quite difficult due to most of the palette needing to be dark or black (resulting in tons of blending, lack of uniqueness, and a multitude of other problems) I think Blood Moon, despite us being off thematic a bit by going for a blue or whatnot, still works quite well, as the primary color of the thematic isn't "black" but just a deep, saturated red, which we could emulate with other colors too
: Honestly if having the thematics be unclear is a probably (although personally I don't think many are thinking that deeply about it) you might just want to reapproach how you name chromas, or even how you present them in the first place. So like maybe you'd present Bloodmoon Pyke (Aquamarine) as like Bluemoon Pyke or a blue chroma for Project Zed could be like rebel zed or something, lean into it more as what ifs. Again though skins are already alternate fantasies of lore that must people aren't really looking too deeply into anyway, and even when they do is already murky at best for most skins. I don't think people are going to be delving to deep into the meaning behind why Project Ashe is suddenly red, they're just gonna think it's a cool color on her.
Yeah, I think that giving them unique names that make them more "thematically accurate" would be confusing for most people and the product as a whole A little bit of alternate fantasy and thematic inaccuracy for the sake of simplicity I think is helpful Like Lexical said, Chromas is there to try and give players options to customize skins that they already enjoy, but perhaps in another palette, but something that still seems appropriate for the theme, generally--nothing too canon in our Chromas
: Are previous Blood Moon skins going to get this treatment, too? I would love to play Blood Moon Talon in purple for example
You and me both, Talon's one of my main champs! Right now, the old Blood Moons are not on our to do list, but that's not to say that they can't be. I'll definitely add it to our player requested backlog :)
: they look really nice, I'm more curious to the names/color choices as Obsidian Pyke this time looks more like Amethyst and Obsidian Sivir looks more like Peridot
I think it's heavily due to the angle. Obsidian is typically black for us, but then the secondary color we try to leave up in the air depending on what looks best for the skin, and I think from the angle we see here the secondary colors stand out quite a lot (their weapons essentially)
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: Whats with the partner chroma being brown, and the actual green chroma is being packaged as yellow? This is really weird.
I think it's a bug, seems like some of the names are in the wrong order (or the texture was applied to the wrong one)
: I'm not 100% sure, but I would imagine that they won't be on Essence Emporium I'm not sure if even the eCommerce team has thought that far ahead just yet, so I think it's still undecided at this moment
But I don't think the Neeko Chroma (Peridot) will be Partner Exclusive, as Moonboy said below, it should be Emeralds that are Partner Exclusive
: i think it's supposed to be Emerald that is partner program exclusive
: i'm bothered by the fact that Silent Night Sona got no golden chroma, really disappointing... either way not a big fan of those golden chromas, i don't even play any of these champions that much compared to supports, maybe i'll get Bard but the rest i couldn't care less also i love the Ruby and Pearl chromas for Soraka, they look really pretty
I hear ya, the Golden ones are a bit weak at the moment, and the team knows it--especially compared to the Soraka ones, which seems to be quite the favorite this time around (even among us working on it) We're still looking for the best ways to further improve the Golden ones
: Can you guys modify the Ruby Chroma of Winter Wonder Soraka, the green lining on her head piece and staff from the solid green to either a light shiny green or light shiny silver? Preferably silver, but other than that it'd be a perfect chroma that'd i'd even pay 1850 rp for lmao. Also, for the golden chromas for existing winter skins could you try giving their blades or the skins without a blade/visible weapon some golden glair or slight sparkles on the edges of the blades? Like slight golden frost on the tips? Or some golden snow effects on their clothing on the ones without blades? Just an idea.
For Winter Wonder Soraka (Ruby), I'll certainly pass along your feedback. I think why he chose those darker green colors is because it certainly feels more Christmas'y, as if the forest green of a Christmas tree or wreath For the Golden ones, we're looking to see what we can do to make the Gold stand out more on its own without over-saturating the yellow, your suggestions are pretty good, I'll let the artist know, thanks!
: Ok Riot, got a **crazy** idea, let's see if you're up for it! Chromas for Neeko (only her) free with skin! (or perma purchasable with BE) Here's why: To push her fantasy even further, past 4th wall. She's a chameleon, changing colors is her natural gift. So i was thinking maybe we should have some champion's special features that match their fantasy drip even into RP store. Ofc, that's for you to consider. And before you laugh your ass at me for the idea guys - no, i'm not hyped for Neeko, happy volibear support main atm ;) It's just that seeing how Riot pushed in recent times for making each new champion (and reworked ones) distinct and focused on clear delivery of their fantasy through any means possible (visuals, game mechanics, sounds) it feel it would be crazy and refreshing for players to see little tidbits of it go outside scope of game, from time to time ofc.
Not laughing at all, but that's a pretty big thing, I don't think we'll be able to adjust the plan that much for this time around, but the general idea of shipping content in more holistic ways sounds pretty cool to me
: The golden chromas look like pissed snow :D
Fair assessment, it does indeed have a lighter tone which does kind of give off that feeling, it's something we knew was a potential risk, and tried to avoid as much as possible
: Hello, Overall, I enjoy Neeko’s Chromas. However, the most underwhelming one is _Winter Wonder Neeko (Amethyst)_. Rather than looking whimsical like Soraka’s coloration Neeko looks sickly, and the colors are pretty muted. That is just my individual opinion on the skin. Her skin base is the same/ similar to _Winter Wonder Neeko (Obsidian)_ which looks striking with its dark contrast. **_Perhaps making a white, or even a brown pearly base to go with Amethyst_**…this will help her pop just a little more.
Thanks for the feedback! It's getting close to our deadlines, so we may not be able to get any new tweaks in, but I'll definitely pass this along to our artist!
: If one of the Neeko Chromas is Partner Exclusive, will it be available in the Essence Emporium one day? (Its a Legacy skin afterall, even tho only after 1 year)
I'm not 100% sure, but I would imagine that they won't be on Essence Emporium I'm not sure if even the eCommerce team has thought that far ahead just yet, so I think it's still undecided at this moment
: I wanted to suggest a non-human skintone chroma for Soraka, but omg... the selection is goregous Q.Q! I especially love the Ruby and Pearl variant. Also I think Winter Wonder Neeko Chromas may be the best chroma set yet. I literally want all of them. I know this is more me gushing than feedback but good fucking job!
We rarely make any changes to the skin color when it comes to Chromas, with a few exceptions, but I'm glad you really like them all! Gushing or not, we're always happy to hear it! Just knowing that you like 'em as much as you do brings great joy to the team over here, and let's us know to keep doing what we're doing!
: Leave the chroma for Raka please! Every single one of these chromas fits at least someone's likings and whomever created them did an amazing job!
: I wonder if it would compliment the gold more if instead of brown the darker areas had a more plum undertone? Basic color theory is that yellow and purple are complimentary. I think the colors would look less dull and muddy for golden chromas if there was a hue shift in the shading. I refrain from golden chromas since they tend to look like a color dodge version of the normal skin. The colors supporting the gold elements do not seem purposeful in my opinion. I do think Something like the Bewitching Janna Chroma looks good though, overall the colors harmonize very well and deliver a unique mood to the skin.
That's a good point, I'll bring it up with the artist, thanks! Many of our golden Chromas have not used purple in their color palettes, not to say that we're stuck in with no purple in our Golden Chromas, but it's something to bring up with the artist for sure, thanks again!
: Honestly, with just a texture recolor these chromas seem like they're just yellow or gold. Not much seems so special about them. If you didn't tell me they were gold chromas, I'd think they were any other chroma. They literally look like a yellow/brown chroma to me. Perhaps try a different color scheme with the gold? silver? white? Golden Chromas always seem to have this sort of quality of being special or even "royal" -- something that these chromas don't give. Maybe it's that there's too much brown... but even then I feel like it still wouldn't be as good. Maybe it's just that these skins wouldn't be fit for a golden chroma.
That's fair, I think the reason why they initially come off that way is also due to the fact a lot of these are wearing cloth or leather material (since it's snow-appropriate attire) as opposed to metal pieces like many of our previous golden Chromas, hopefully we'll be able to do something about it Thanks for the feedback!
: The latter. Having some brown is fine, and necessary probably. I just feel like it's definitely too prevalent! Super excited for them though, despite that.
: Golden chromas aren't good tbh, but what bothers me is that the Winter Wonder/Snowday/Ice themes are blue/light-blue/white for a reason: it fits the theme of snow/winter. Why do you want to sell so many stuff like this now? I understand there're ways to sell a different fantasy, but hey, snowday skins are that: SNOW AND ICE, WHITE, BLUE. On the other hand, you did a great job with Soraka, but the Obsidian is pretty confusing, looks like a different line of skins, ala Coven.
I can understand that, we do move a little bit away from the original fantasy of the skin by adding in other color schemes, but it's to give everyone options, particularly if someone likes a skin, but wishes it had a different color scheme Not every Chroma is for everyone, we understand that, but for those who do enjoy a particular color scheme, and want said color scheme for a skin or champion that they enjoy, then we hope that we can bring them that value =) We try our best to stay close to the thematic, and not stray off too far into other territories. I do see how Winter Wonder Soraka (Obsidian) is delving a little into Coven with it's purple, dark queen personality, and how that can be confusing though
: No chromas for winter wonder orianna or lulu? : (
: The golden chromas seem really off in my opinion. They're way more brown than gold, and don't look very special at all as a result.
I see. Do you think it's an issue with the actual gold? Or that the brown areas (pants, gloves, etc.) are too prevalent?
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