: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: PROJECT:Irelia
Why would I buy this if I already have Infiltrator or Nightblade? I've been waiting for PROJECT: Irelia for years but with her VGU, Infiltrator costs a whopping **520 RP** and fulfills the same fantasy, if not better! This skin should have gone to another champion in more need of it - Perhaps one of the dozen or so monster champions that lack decent skins. Kalista, maybe? Vladimir, Trundle, Udyr, Kennen? From the teaser a lot of people were expecting PROJECT: Syndra. As it stands, Irelia has so many skins already and there's little (read: Zero) incentive to buy these. Especially not for 1350 RP. When will we get another 750 RP skin? I don't care about recalls of voice filters or recolored VFX, I just want cute costumes and appealing splash arts.
: Mordekaiser's ult enemy turret interaction ???
Turrets exist in both realms simultaneously. If Morde Ults near a turret that has the wave pushed up to it, you'll see the turret continue to attack the minion, despite not seeing a minion.
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Dunkmaster Ivern Chromas!
I saw you guys updated the Chromas. That's pretty sad, why update Chromas on a skin thats going to be deleted? ... you ARE deleting this skin, right?
: 1 for all
Sylas is going to be fun in 1fA ... being able to chain multiple ults or have one person get their ult stolen 2-3+ times... but having no ultimates on their own, and only 1 possible ult to take.
: Skins Beyond Super Galaxy Fizz
Pajama Guardian skins have already released to live, and thus do not need testing. The PBE is a testing environment, and so the shop does not have all content accessible. However, you can still get them through Hextech boxes. It is not an environment to play with free skins, but rather to test new ones and most importantly, new champions/items and volatile changes (like the version of Aatrox currently on PBE for the weekend, or the soft rework to Teemo.)
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=raphelmadeira,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=3AEB3uHA,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-03-18T20:12:37.890+0000) > > Hey guys, when coop vs AI comes back? I miss this mode, is the best for test things like skins, abilities, bugs etc. > > {{sticker:galio-happy}} I also think like you, I want AI mode to come back. . . and also DOOM mode.
: > [{quoted}](name=Riot skiteacher2,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=3AEB3uHA,comment-id=00080000,timestamp=2019-03-19T18:38:54.143+0000) > > The mission will add 3000 RP to the account. So, if you start the day with 2000 RP, and play a game, the mission will add 3000 RP. So, your new total will be 5000 RP. I didn't get the 2000 RP. I'm wondering if there is some error.
Get 3000, and if you spend 1000 and then clear the mission, you'll get another 3k (5k total) and not set to 3k. Otherwise you could never buy Ultimate skins ;) Jokes aside, consider "Riot pays you $30 a day to play on PBE."
: This makes it even harder to collect skins now. And im a person that gets every skin i can see. I have 907 skins on PBE AND I CAN'T WORK TO GET SKINS! {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}}
3000 RP a day means 15k a week, with days to spare. 21k if you play every single day. With 2 weeks per patch, playing every day for 1 patch cycle is sufficient to buy nigh every skin for a year without playing a single other game. I hope you find enough time to play PBE with those skins you have, and can continue enjoying getting to purchase skins at whim.
: Give us an option to turn Buthcher's Bridge and the GP VO off
And while theyre at it, the option to use Snowdown Summoner's Rift, or Butcher's Bridge, etc. whenever you want, along with the Pyke, GP, Phreak, or various other announcers theyve had throughout the years. They're sitting on a gold mine if they would sell these.
: I seriously hope these DONT get repealed, this is an AMAZINGGG meme skin and I wouldnt be surprised if I find myself buying the chromas as well, its super unfitting but thats EXACTLY why I love it so much, the perfect april fools type skin! I know I’m gonna get infinite downvotes, I don’t care, but I seriously hope this skin gets released lol
It's not an April fool's skin though. We already got those this patch, the dogfish and Yorick in cat PJs. Those are silly and good skins, just like Meowkai and Pug'Maw were. This is not. Maokai is a treeman with 8 skins, and one of them is super goofy but looks great. So why does Ivern get this? Clearly it's not a matter of his lack of humanoid features. If anything ivern is MORE human looking than Maokai, and I cannot stress this enough - *Riot has never had trouble making cool skins for Maokai, and most/all of them look fantastic.* even with a fairly out of date model.
: It seems like literally nothing you “very few skin champ” mains will EVER fucking work. You complained about PP Zoe, you complained about Mecha Sol, you complained about Count Kled, you complained about Arclight Yorick, you even complained about dragon master swain FFS. Moral of the story is, you fucks are never satisfied by ANYTHING and it shows.
Put zero effort get zero appreciation. Count Kled is terrible, this skin is terrible. People aren't complaining just because, they're complaining because Riot has so far not shown us the quality of work we expect from them on more popular champions. Instead of getting gorgeous skins [this](https://am-a.akamaihd.net/image?f=https://news-a.akamaihd.net/public/images/articles/2019/january/pn902/wp-vl-fiora.jpg) and even [this on the same patch as Kled](https://am-a.akamaihd.net/image?f=https://news-a.akamaihd.net/public/images/articles/2018/october/821patchnotes/Janna_TFTR_Splash.jpg), we got Kled covered in cranberry sauce, or Ivern in a t-shirt and wig. Not all complaints are invalid or baseless whining and hold your producers accountable for quality product.
: Dude leona got 2 in the same patch lol
No, she didn't. She got 1 Ultimate skin that you have to buy twice, or get half the skin at a generous discount. Legendary skins don't change forms or cost 3100 RP, and I can't fairly call Solar Eclipse a Chroma either. It's like Miss Fortune's Red/Black forms on Gun Galaxy
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: DUNKMASTER IVERN
Pretty good skin, basketball Sound goes buzz when grove channels ready Long man use root and throw ball But no. In all seriousness, this skin is miles worse than Riot's proven standard of quality. Please go back to the drawing board and give us a better skin than this. There's nothing appealing to DM Ivern and the skinline could've used a number of other champions instead. Dunk {{champion:11}}, Dunkmaster {{champion:80}}, Coach {{champion:79}} , Showstopper {{champion:119}}, and as I hinted in the title {{champion:59}}, Exemplar of the Court, Prince of the Dunk in the 4th Quarter, ~~Jar~~Dunkvan. Hell I'd even dig a Dunkmaster {{champion:157}} or Ball Queen {{champion:134}}. Dunkmaster {{champion:517}} could be his first skin post-release (and honestly, wouldve been a cooler release skin) But this, this is low effort, awful looking, and just generally poor quality. Please remove this skin from PBE and do not release it, as it is not worth any amount of money. The theme doesn't fit, the visuals are poor and the model is extremely under par for quality. You've proven before that youre willing to cancel skins, and I would appreciate your art team and skin teams if this one is cancelled as well. Thank you for your time and replies. The visuals and SFX match very poorly, the theme does not suit a tree man nor does it counter his thematic suitably (like Noxus Poppy, Redeemed Riven or Wildfire Zyra, as examples.) The Q animation is ugly and misleading, the walk animations look poor with the skin's design and Daisy is just plain jarring. I don't know how to explain why it is wrong in the vain of "needs a complete redo" rather than "I don't plan to buy this." because it's not simply that I'm not interested, it's an outright betrayal of quality you'd expect from Riot this side of 2011 and should be iceboxed promptly. Please return Sewn Chaos Amumu instead for this patch, and make a different skin entirely for Ivern as this will never hit any marks of quality.
: Kayle and Morgana bug report thread
Ghost Bride Morgana's recall has conflicting VOs. The moaning/shrieking plays even while she's speaking to the player with standard recall monologue. This is by far my favorite skin mostly because of it's recall, please change this! And her face at the end of the recall is horrifying, but that goes for all of her skins and is more for "Feedback" than "bug."
: No, the rune should be incentivized for melee champs, and should have most of the bruiser specific benefits gutted for ranged champ. This rune is something that Bruisers need. They really only have this rune to actually damage tanks, for the most part. Ranged champs and Mages have their own runes to use (You don't see any AD Bruisers using comet/aery, for example). If they leave this rune the way it is, champs like Cassio and Twitch are just gonna break this rune, until it gets nerfed to the ground and reworked again. So I'd much rather let mages and ADCs take the L this time for once, because we lost out on Fervor, then we lost out on the Bruiser itemization items, and now potentially this unless it is significantly nerfed for ranged champions (I don't care if Akali, Kassadin, etc get it)
> [{quoted}](name=GarySlays,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=6YyL4HUM,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2019-02-10T16:24:49.596+0000) > > (You don't see any AD Bruisers using comet/aery, for example Gnar and Camille would like to speak to you.
: Stormrazer changes?
That's hilarious. Ohmwrecker is a joke item that Riot has no idea what to do with it but can't remove because the name was a RAF reward. It IS one of the best tank items in the game from build path alone but its active is meaningless since season 2. Rammus can do some fun things with RoA+Ohmwrecker but really, youd take the tower just as easily without it.
: PBE now.
Riot doesn't want you playing with skins for free anymore sorry
: why can Ammumu throw his q, while grounding?
Afaik his Q is a projectile not a dash, so he can cast it under immobilization. He cant dash, though, unless the CC ends while his Q tether persists. Could just have been mistimed. Without video evidence it's hard to judge.
: At least you got a KDA Ahri Skin - be greatful. Some of us get 'Program LeBlanc'.. {{item:3070}}
: People do NOT want Program LeBlanc.
I love this skin, you're kidding. Chroma make it even better. Buying the whole set.
: Riot please put the new skins on pbe im begging you because some players cant afford the skins because of how young we are so we can have a job yet and all that good stuff with money. So pbe to us or at least to me if a dream come true and its awesome. Jinx{{champion:222}} is one of my favorite champions so please add the new skins on pbe please riot. {{sticker:zombie-nunu-tears}} {{sticker:sg-soraka}}
The PBE is a testing ground to make sure stuff works as intended and doesn't crash. It is NOT a playground for children to get free skins. Please read the FAQs before coming here to beg.
: Gargoyle Stoneplate and Overgrowth Give Pyke HP
Stoneplate doubles your base health AND your bonus, so Pyke gains base health equal to his base health (or 40% of it) and bonus health equal to (always 0) his bonus health. Perhaps overgrowth increases your base health too? I havent seen Pyke gaining HP when I tried for Overgrowth by slaughtering a cluster of 400+ minions etc, but maybe It did and I wasnt looking.
: Ultimate hat removed why?
It moved to Domination, you know.
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=SorakaVayne,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=Oaf8LrEm,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-05-03T16:41:53.022+0000) > >After his ult the remaining 60% get 50% pen and if you buy lord dominik too its actually 85% total armor pen (cuz the yasuo ult stack with other kind of armor pen things). Wrong, It doesn't work that way, please do some research, let's just start off by saying Yasuo's ultimate grants 50% **bonus** armor penetration, and that armor penetration stacks multiplicatively and not additively. **On topic:** I do believe Infinity Edge's new passive is completely absurd with Conqueror's Keystone users, tanks can't compete against that.
> [{quoted}](name=Xelpi,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=Oaf8LrEm,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-05-03T19:12:21.979+0000) > with Conqueror's Keystone users, tanks can't compete against that. Theyre not supposed to. That's kind of the point of this change, and of buying Infinity Edge in general
: Reworked Infinity Edge is Overpowered/Broken on Tryn & Yas
yeah but Tryndamere is losing his Essence Reaver which is HUGE. Not to mention Yasuo gets 100% crit with any 2 crit items already anyway, although honestly I feel he should lose that part of his passive now that he gets it from a item. It would make him so much more balancable, too, and hopefully Riot decides to do so before the crit changes go live in 8.11 .... or after seeing Yasuo become egregiously overpowered on it. Back to Tryndamere; While getting 70% crit in a single item purchase is very, very strong and certainly better than 55% * 1.5 damage compared to live, there's still the fact that True damage doesn't mean that much if youre not hitting someone with a ton of armor. Early {{item:3082}} {{item:3075}} buys still negate a massive amount of his kill threat.
: Why isn't Essence Reaver's effect an active effect rather than being tied to an ultimate?
100%, I hope Riot sees this and works with it. Put actives on something besides Support items
: Why are we changing jungle exp?
"dude just invade lmao" - GhostCrawler
: [Jayce] [Essence Reaver] Is it intended that only Jayce's current abilities get reduced CD?
So if you say - cast Gate in cannon form, switch to hammer, auto and then switch back to cannon, you'll have reduced the CD on Gate but not any of Cannon's abilities?
: Get a stop watch, do it as much as you want, get an average. Boom, you have an estimated time.
Theres a time in game, why would you need a stopwatch
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Pulsefire Riven
Not really a bug, the skin looks pretty good but I think [her icon](https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-KIoO3NMi0d0/WujblwR43eI/AAAAAAAA-fI/97Pl4pvHlrAMqx0JOBB0akmVjRf7NI3_gCLcBGAs/s1600/3464.jpg) looks a little too similar to [PROJECT: Ashe](https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/0/05/Recon_PROJECT_Ashe_profileicon.png/revision/latest?cb=20170505012528). Any chance you could adjust the placement of her face or at least change the color a little?
: No its a choice. So you want 60% and some other item or 120% to get the cheese?
I want you to know that {{item:3046}} {{item:3031}} {{champion:157}} is 120% crit chance because... for some reason. Although if this IE goes live, then Yasuo can just get that part of his passive removed anyway. Further guts his early game but, that's a fair weakness for him. He's already a lane bully that wins teamfights by pressing R, and has some of the best ally protection in the game.
: Riot. DONT!!!!
I don't think it's that big of a deal, yet. It might be, but all it does is give casters a bit of DPS. Runaans + Nashors Orianna w/Nunu sounds funny though. Throw in some Athene's + Aery for some meme-tier shields too (and giving Ori free healing on her E, on top of resists, the skillshot damage, AND the shield itself.)
: Holy damn you're actually right. Xayah has so much differences from the splash and in-game. https://imgur.com/XQNapmL https://imgur.com/9FzRJjE She has boots on the skin but it looks like they're shorter and white on the splash, ***WHICH IS ACTUALLY BETTER***, same for the heart on the chest, while it's purple in game and the dress doesn't have any transparency. Someone to address this, please?
Looks like theyre selling a 750 RP quality skin for 600 RP more than they should. Riot, can you confirm the price on these are going to be dropped before live? Or explain why they're priced at double their quality value
: >Network Operations – 3:59 AM We are aware of certain skins missing from the store. We are working to resolve this issue. [PBE Server status](http://status.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/#pbe) In general, it's best to first look at PBE server status and through the boards to see whether others have reported the problem yet. This way, the boards won't become as cluttered :] Either way, the skins don't need testing, and one should put their focus on the new content that does need testing where possible
Its the new stuff I cant find. The lunar revel content, the gold chromas, the grab bags. none of that is available. All I have is Lunar empress Lux, Warwick, and nasus.
: Riot will only enable skins that need testing.
Im going to go out on a limb and say Dynasty Ahri doesn't need testing.
: 8.2 Ornn changes
They barely changed him. The CDR wont matter much once you have a RG and 20% cdr item like you said, and the Unstoppable removal just removes a reason to pick Ornn over "Generic Tank that deals 500 DPS v whatever"; Specifically as a counter against, or picked in, a high CC team. He needs the shield removed, and the Unstoppable kept. %Current Health is garbage no matter what, so I'm glad they replaced it with %Max Health but that left his W+AA way too strong level 2 trades in lane.
: She's 1350 RP as opposed to Heartseeker Quinn who is 975 RP because she has an entire kit of new sounds and VFX, whereas Quinn didn't have a full set of sounds.
So you folks over at Riot think a tiny homeguard animation, or some mild sound adjustments, warrants paying 3 more dollars? As a long-time customer who has nearly 300 skins, I strongly disagree. The skin's quality does not meet a 1,350RP standard. Please do not release them at this price point. We have not had any 975 or 750 RP skins released in a very long time, and it is a great disservice to your player base and loyal customers to be robbed like this. Tracing back to before the PROJECT skins became a line (Yi and co), 1,350 RP skins were rare, extra high quality skins that didnt have a completely new framework, voice over, etc. Since their release, dozens of low quality skins have come out at an unnecessary price point, and I strongly feel these Heartseeker skins are exactly that. Moderate quality, overpriced skins for popular (and purposefully overpowered) champions. I understand that your goal is to make money, but there is an understanding that you will deliver quality, and not just charge us whatever you want (aka, at least $10 USD for absolutely every single skin released in recent months.) Chemtech Tryndamere, Brazillian Anivia, and April Fools skins were the only ones released in 2017 under 1,350. Championship Ashe was released at 1,350 with a 2000RP chroma, despite being the same quality as Kalista and Zed's equivalent skins, which are 975 RP. I understand a lot of work goes into them, and that you plan on adjusting the skins (hopefully, it doesn't make them uglier in the process.), but even so, they are NOT Epic quality, and should not be priced as if they are.
: Just managed to buy Sweetheart Rakan on an alternate account, worked like a charm (no pun intended). Have you already bought the champion Rakan? All champions are free to play, but you still need to buy them in order to buy their skins. If you happened to own Rakan, it was probably a shop overload/connection issue. Try again later. It worked for me, so it has to be on your side D:
I'll admit, after much waiting and annoyance, as soon as I posted this I opened the shop ... and viola, all the new skins for 1 BE. At the time of writing, even if I didnt have the Champion Owned box checked, it wouldn't display anything past Taliyah's release. But yeah they seemed to have fixed the issue, or my client fixed it.
: Welcome to PBE! > All skins and champ are regular price exemple: Zac 975 rp and 6300 BE. This is intended. > And i cant see all skins ... mecha , star guardian , battle boss and more new skins doesn't exist !! Yesterday, due to some issues, all skins newer than Freljord Taliyah were disabled in store. Riot has brought back only the newest skins (Lunar Guardian/Empress, Arctic Ops, Sweetheart skins), because they are the ones that need testing. Skins that have been released on the live servers no longer need testing, so we PBE testers don't need to have them. Here's a Rioter on a similar post a few days ago: > [{quoted}](name=Riot KateyKhaos,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=UgZq1zFI,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-01-05T18:15:03.797+0000) > > Hi hi! > > Content that doesn't need testing may not always be available, especially if they were limited time/limited availability. Keep in mind that this is a test realm, and should be considered as such. ^^ - [Riot KateyKhaos](https://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/client-new-features-feedback/UgZq1zFI-xayah-rakan-icons-pbe-and-where-are-they-now?comment=0000).
I managed to get Graggy but I cant test the Rakan skin because I can't buy it.
: This confused me at first too! After thinking about it, I believe that they mean that previews will only appear over your own portrait for the skins you own. So that if you are switching between skins, the skins that you hover but do not own will not show up over your champion. To riot: you may wish to reword this statement in your main post for clarity! :)
So, if I (the proud owner of Sarah Jessica "Rabbit" Fortune), hover Arcade Miss fortune (I do not own this skin), then my allies will not see that skin. Because the game was never going to let me pick it (barring some Riot-bank-breaking bug) Of course, they will always see my Evelynn skin, due to owning everyone. Same with Twitch, except I'm not allowed to hover Medieval. Only every other Twitch I play against who is first timing Twitch gets to use that Skin i've waited years for :)
: This kind of request is 100% not gonna happen. RIOT spends weeks maybe more making skins, spending a lot of time, money, and effort to make them. It's not because a handful of people don't like it that they will simply remove it or change it. Plus the most important part is, you don't like it ? Don't buy it. No one is forcing you to buy all skins RIOT makes. So be grateful and forget about it.
Sewn Chaos {{champion:32}} {{champion:53}} says hi. > [{quoted}](name=Belial Lucifer,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=h8suhzyy,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-01-10T00:53:44.539+0000) > It's not because a handful of people don't like it that they will simply remove it That is exactly what happened with Sewn Chaos {{champion:32}} / {{champion:53}} . I thought they were perfectly great skins. Though the reality is probably more that they couldn't be marked up to 1,350RP, and Riot refuses to have any skins below that ever again.
: > "Are you making any changes to the way disenchanting shards works? >Since you'll be getting more shards thanks to the new leveling system (and with other recent changes to honor and events), we'll tune down the relative value of the essence you get from disenchanting shards of all types—champ shards, skin shards, and ward skin shards." [Preseason Update FAQ](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/115012640908-Preseason-Update-FAQ)
Still, absolutely no reason to make skins give less fake-currency for the same real-currency value. You never got Skins through IP nor does Orange have any relation to Blue in function. It's daylight robbery, even if they did warn us they were doing it.
: Why do we only got 20k BE now?
You got 20k Blue Essence because they gifted it during a short time when Runes Reforged was disabled for changes and shipping patch 7.21 to live servers. You can test out Urf The{{champion:19}} Manatee by being one of the players who had tons and tons and tons of IP saved up or owned the skin 6 years ago. Recall aside I don't think anything about it needs testing, it's a VERY old skin just being re-released from being Limited Edition.
: Poro Rider Sejuani Gitch on E cooldown
Can confirm it does this on Live as well. I think it has something to do with the knockback effect on E, which - as weird as this sounds - the tooltip on her E was changed to show the displacement in the most recent Live patch. Something could have broken and the game places a ring around the location of the target on CAST and after the KNOCKBACK, i.e. two very slightly different locations.
: Can you give 20k BE again please :)
That was a one time only thing, to let you pick up some runes while Runes Reforged was down
: what about the masteries man, soo long time cant play a single game at all{{sticker:zombie-nunu-bummed}}
Just played a game where Masteries worked... Though evidently, not for everyone. Or it worked for everyone, they just forgot to make them. As long as you dont try to go over 30 points it should work. I'd like to see someone level 36+ get two keystones just for kicks though
: 5000 rp draven draven skin on PBE
Its part of the joke. Draven Draven is so amazing it's the highest price point skin in history - 5,000 RP! But for a two-week only, you can get it NINETY PERCENT off at only 500 RP! (Its actually just a 520-rp tier skin, but was still ~5% discounted lol) April Fools! {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}}
: Dear player, Riot have been working as hard as they can to provide us with the spicy content and booty poses on the new skin for katarina...With the revert of runes riot has given the players 20000 BE to buy back all the runes i mean no big deal ? RP and BE are reset every day their time so you can buy things daily and you shouldnt be here showing them hate you are a tester its a test server to make the game better if your going to come angry and etc then you just shouldnt play on the test servers... show feed back be positive not negative and write in anger... Have a nice day {{sticker:slayer-jinx-catface}}
I hate your name so much, but i love your post thank you. Its a BETA server not a "Free stuff!" server. Access is so as many people as possible can use the stuff IN BETA before it goes live and hopefully find game breaking bugs (like Dark Star Varus. Or SG Udyr erasing games from existence.)
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