: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Star Guardian Rakan
The names for Rakan Xayah and Zoe should be different, they have a very different look compared to the other Star Guardians. And I was expecting to have more colorful/bright skins in this years installment of Star Guardians but these skins let me down. We have plenty of dark purple skinlines, so I'm hoping in the future that we can receive more skins with the white+color theme of the usual Star Guardians.
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Star Guardian Neeko
I think the in game looks pretty nice, but it does seem like there are too many colors going on. My main problem is with her face in the splash art. The eyebrows are too thin and the smirk seems strange and not in character. She's lacking many traits that identify her as Neeko such as her lizard pupils and scales. The face shape is also kinda off from her other skins. https://twitter.com/EraiViolett/status/1166199957537222656 Something like this post shows more what I expect Neeko to look like. Ty!
: Mana changes coming to PBE today
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Dragon Sorceress Zyra!
Hello Katey! Thank you for all your work thus far. Some players have said that the colors of the model feel a little muted. I know you have replied, saying that there is usually a texture check near the end of the cycle. A great suggestion for the color scheme I found from the r/zyramains subreddit is something akin to [this image](http://content.wallpapers-room.com/resolutions/1680x1050/E/Wallpapers-room_com___Evera_Nebula_by_freelancah_1680x1050.jpg). It features deep shades of purple and some blue. I think that with the skin being mainly purple it would be nice to add bluish gradient/shading in some areas to make it more interesting and help it differ from the Void skin line. I also think that blue helps identify with the "sorceress" theme. The deeper colors would help make the skin pop and feel more intense. I believe that these changes would make the skin really shine! Kaiceytron Edit: I also noticed that there is a blue aura coming off the egg in the [teaser](https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-C17zrA87jwg/WKyAshARnAI/AAAAAAAAePw/2_ViLEvIVyAxIEPD_snoLkX5HAdlmhkQwCLcB/s1600/C450CQMUYAAXQEV.jpg) so I really do think it would fit thematically.
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Dragon Sorceress Zyra!
The ultimate is underwhelming to me, it doesn't feel that different from base and since her other spells have purple fire when casted I think it's strange that it's not on her ult too.
: lovely! the dragon eggs are such a cool alternate fantasy for the seeds. can't wait for this to come out c: I only have two questions: * are the R VFX final? right now they look _extremely_ similar to base Zyra's * for her other skins, the passive seeds have a different color from her W seeds. will it not be the case for Dragon Sorceress? thanks for giving us an awesome skin for Zyra, I've been waiting for so long *-*
I don't remember which is which, but W and passive seeds do differ. One is blue, one is purple.
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Dragon Sorceress Zyra!
I think it would be nice if you guys could add a homeguard sprint animation with her wings ^^ Also, I think the eggs seem watery and remind me more of Atlantean Syndra than dragon eggs. I would like it if the eggs looked more like the one in the image teaser of her silhouette.
: First off, I want to say that this skin is gorgeous and you guys have absolutely outdone yourselves on the model and animation work. (also I'm really happy you're running the thread Katey! <3) But I'm shocked it's not a legendary o.o (don't get me wrong, I'm sure lots of people are happy it's 1350 because you could easily charge 1820 for the model/animation work alone I'm sure). Mostly because of her voicelines. Zyra's base voicelines are extremely plant-related so they really don't make any sense with the new skin. "Bloom!" "Whip Vine!" "Just a harmless flower" "Sprout!" "A promising garden" and "Wait until my seeds take root" are just a few that really conflict heavily with the skin and the theme it's supposed to represent. While I'm aware that there probably isn't enough time to change this before the skin is released, I just thought I'd toss it around incase something can be done about it. Again, beautiful skin =) Very extremely well done to the skins team on this one.
Have to agree with this, the plant quotes really don't make sense with this skin. I'm a bit disappointed it's not 1820 but the skin is absolutely amazing otherwise. It is hard to get over how unfitting the current lines are for this skin, though.
: Can we have a better indicator on her q and e, showing the range these abilities can activate the seeds?
Agreed, it doesn't have to show in the particle, but we should at least be able to see the area when mousing over the ability.
: MYMU - Zyra discussion
Thank you for listening to the feedback, I'm glad to hear W will give vision and passive will stop in bushes so that Zyra can make more plays :D
: MYMU - Malzahar Discussion
What do you have to say about this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MheH0uf8LDE
: Mid Season Mages Bug thread!
Zyra Bugs - enemy Bots and minions being held up by Zyra SEEDS by attacking them even though they should be untargetable. - Noticed a seed that wouldn't spawn a plant no matter how many times I casted spells on it, also lacked the green shine "light pillar" that usually sticks out of a seed - MAYBE NOT A BUG - Zyra's plant ranges not shown to her player like on live.
: MYMU - Zyra discussion
Hey there, D1 mid/top Zyra only here. I think you did a great job on the update, but I have a few concerns. First of all, I'm just curious, why was Zyra's Q changed to a rectangular shape? Second, it doesn't look like her ult CD has been reduced which doesn't make sense to me because it already lagged behind my teammates' ult CD's before, and now the CDR from W is gone. Sure, more AP items give CDR now but neither Liandry's or Rylai's do which are core items Zyra needs to build every game. Other mages have lower CD ults but can build CDR more freely. I also liked Zyra's flexibility by being able to function without a CDR/Mana item before, so I hope it's not mandatory to build one now. Third, I hope plants won't be spawning over walls (and outside of bushes, but I doubt that'll be the case) as Zyra is great for setting up ambushing and I don't want to be a gimmicky champion like Illaoi who relies on the enemy to come to me. Finally, while Zyra's spells spawning plants near the area gives her some strengths, it also seems to go against Riot's usual policy of clarity and it's hard to tell whether a plant will or will not spawn. Otherwise, you've done a great job on the rework. Thanks for your effort! EDIT: Would also like to know whether removal of plant range indicators was intended or just a bug, I'd rather have it show for both me and my enemies for clarity purposes if it has to be changed from the live functionality.
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: High Noon Jhin!
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Lunar Wraith Caitlyn!
Overall it is one of my favorite skins in the game even though I don't play Caitlyn. The only problems I have are that the ult marker could be changed to something else rather than a blue recolor of the base and that something should be added to the traps as they are extremely dull and it is hard to tell what is replacing the cupcake. A dumpling is what I assume, but it just looks like a rock to me. Maybe could be changed to a blue gem or something. Also, I think she should get some sort of voice filter. Morgana doesn't NEED one, but it would be great while Caitlyn's voice is very unfitting for the theme of the skin. The model is perfect to me though!
: Hey, i've tested this skin and ran into some issues. 1. Her champion icon on the map is a beige square 2. The traps look way too plain, i would add some blue steamy effects, like it is some baiting poison http://i.imgur.com/NTnKs76.png http://i.imgur.com/KMpYAtG.png I think the recall is very nice, at first i thought that is some seducing fanservice but then i realized that it is the movement of a snake and the arm swings forward are like the bite of a snake. The sounds are nice too. The ultimate looks plain aswell, maybe that's because the projectile is fast and cant help but be thin, unlike the Q which is freaking amazing. Im not a caitlyn player so this feedback isn't tainted by emotions or the likes. The skins are very well made and i hope the quality of the upcoming skins will be as good as them. I really hope so.
: why would they add a voice filter. they aren't robotic,evil etc. they r still human lol.
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Lunar Wraith Morgana!
It's not the fault of those that worked on it but I don't think Morgana should be getting any more skins until she gets a model update. In her skins the dress always looks flat just because its outdated. Good job otherwise though
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Challenger Nidalee!
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Snow Day Syndra!
Syndra's splash just came out, and I think the eyes look terrible. Syndra should not have pupils and it would look best if they were just completely white. If not that then at least remove the pupils.
: Hello! ^-^ Thanks for the feedback! There are blue outlines around the orbs like the other skins have - are you thinking they should be darker? We did consider other options for the (E), but didn't want to over due the ice and for a Snow Day skin, figured there should be some kind of snow. We thought the idea of a plow pushing snow back, and transformed that into worked for her kit.
What I meant was that in Atlantean, Queen of Diamonds, Base, and Justicar, there is a much clearer circle around the outside of the Q (not the physical orb placed by Q) that shows the diameter of the Q (where it does damage). In Snow Day, it is much harder to see the diameter of her Q/area that it does damage in.
: i don't know, I think they can make it frost blue instead of yellow and still have good clarity
Doesn't matter, they are NOT going to change it. It's the same reason that Ahri's green passive orb will stay green in all of her skins even if it looks bad.
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Snow Day Bard!
Hey Riot, my friend, who is a support main and loves Bard absolutely loves the skin... besides the ult. And I have to say, I agree. For the ultimate ability of the skin it is extremely underwhelming. I understand that you can't change the color of the stasis'd targets to be frozen for clarity purposes, but I have another idea that I think would work to make the ultimate look better. My proposal is to have a sort of glass dome (think Viktor W) where the ult hits (if it hits any units) and have snow falling from the top like a snowglobe. It doesn't have to look extremely fancy or distracting that it would take away gameplay clarity but it would add a cool and very fitting effect for the skin.
: On the ult: Why not try to hook up the changed one on the PBE and see how much people are confused? And then decide whether or not keep it. (unless that's a lot of work, of course) Honestly, I don't think color's everything: It's more of the full animation sequence. If you see a skinned Bard, a blue circle below you and a light blue energy flowing through you when you're frozen in time should be telling me what has just happened -- heck, the Q effects are pretty clear and I'd say they're easier to miss! (On that note, great job btw. Loved how the snowflake and ice blocks match the slowed or stunned states). On other regards: Penguins. Hot chocolate. More penguins. A snowman. Did I mention penguins already? Also, one single con: He ain't Santa. *sigh* But I still love this skin for Bar--- Gunter.
they ARE NOT going to change it. its the same reason why ahri's orb is always green when passive is up eve though the color would look better if it was different
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Snow Day Syndra!
Hey Katey its Kaiceytron :D I love the concept for the skin! The model is great and I personally think the hair color is fine but some people have said they want it changed which I wouldn't mind. The sound effects also are amazing. One clarity suggestion I have for the skin is to make an outline for the Q particles just like how you can clearly see the size of the spell in her other skins. Also, it's just personal preference but I don't like the chunks of snow on the E, I think it would look better as ice or just as a bunch of snow being shot out (but not in chunks)
: Hourglass AP recipes don't add up correctly.
maybe they want to make you pay ap for the active but idk, u are already spending gold
: Caitlyn Gameplay Update Feedback Megathread
: No blind, no big burst from R-E-Q-R, it's no longer 'Quinn and Valor', just 'Quinn', and now you want her to go mid, land of people who outrange the hell out of her.
even right now she's not a bad midlaner, but auto range buffs wouldnt hurt
: Quinn PBE Feedback Thread
I want Assassquinn back :(
: > If we don't like this. And we find it weak. Are you willing to say "we messed up" and find a different avenue of fixing her. There will always be people that don't like changes, so I will likely never get a good read on the portion of people that don't like a change. If it's weak or something's off about it, however, we would address that, yes.
I think they're talking about how Riot posted barely any response to the extremely unpopular Mordekaiser/Cassopeia reworks. It wasn't that hard to tell on Boards that people didn't like it...
: [All-For-One] Heim is just too strong. Perma Ban Him.
you can try playing syndra to throw his turrets
Please post your feedback in the official Cosmic Reaver Kassadin feedback thread http://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/general-pbe-feedback/n875hMt2-pbe-bugs-feedback-thread-cosmic-reaver-kassadin
: Oki doki! I think by the time I post this the PBE update should have gone out and the eyes glow during his W. We've had a chat internally about the gold color inconsistently. No promises but we're looking into it :)
Thanks for listening to the feedback hope the color change goes through too
: ***
the textures on the wings are messed up because of model viewer, wait for in game shots
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Cosmic Reaver Kassadin!
Hey Nurse Flan! First of all, I think the splash art is absolutely amazing, one of the best but I do have a few suggestions for the in game model. My first suggestion would be to brighten up the colors like you did on Atlantean Syndra a while back. I think the gold on the in game model should be more of a brighter yellow shade of gold like the splash rather than the dull green/grey shade it currently is in game. I also think the white part of his clothing should be brighter white like in the splash instead of the grey/silver it is now. And the chest area is quite blue right now which I think should be changed to more dark purple like it is in the splash. Another thing I think should be added is instead of having blank black spaces for the eyes it should be bright blue like the splash. Also a nice effect you could add to the skin may be twinkles/sparkles around him much like how some other skins have auras (leaves around Blackthorn Morgana). Anyways great job so far and I hope you can improve on these points. I'll see if I can add more feedback once the PBE is back up and the particle effects for the spells are out. Edit: The spell particles and sound effects are amazing! Great job. ~Kaceytron
sad that this gets more upvotes than balance threads on pbe...
: I prefered the first set of Karma changes
I prefer neither. She's fine the way she is, no need for changes
Rioter Comments
: Follow-up on Karma's Mantra W changes (second iteration)
She's always been balanced, now my Diamond Main is getting gutted as a solo laner, and with all the damage loss arguably nerfed as a support.
: New Karma W (and E), why I think it takes away a fun gameplay element and my solution.
I hate these changes. Karma should be able to heal while juking enemy skillshots, not by just standing around and using Q. I also miss shield bombing, was fun to use on an initiator and was a good way to proc passive and do a large AoE. I don't know at all why Riot is making these changes, they feel terrible and it's not like Karma's in a bad spot.
: Lotus Irelia - Pants color and design clash with rest of her outfit
I agree, I thought I was the only one that thought this. First of all it should be a 975 with Lotus Particles instead of her ugly base but Riot never changes skin tiers. But I really agree with the pants. I think It could be a light blue like Lotus Karma's (but not seethrough) or just white. I hate how dark it is compared to the rest.
: you are absolutely right!! He feels like a fighter to me in every aspect. This passive screams of an ad auto-attacking champion (like tryndamere). I dont know why Rito is straining his kit in-order to make him an ap assassin.
> [{quoted}](name=BridgeFour,realm=PBE,application-id=2EAF660193FA3B668D7234B3AEBB530C5AB7F651,discussion-id=V8pV3i1x,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2015-05-15T00:35:01.527+0000) > > you are absolutely right!! He feels like a fighter to me in every aspect. This passive screams of an ad auto-attacking champion (like tryndamere). I dont know why Rito is straining his kit in-order to make him an ap assassin. Diana has the same passive... And probably making him an AP Assassin since there's barely any.
: My thoughts about the PBE Karma Changes
I'm a Diamond Karma Mid main and I can't believe Riot is trying to make her a support only champ. RIP Solo Lane Karma. She's fine exactly how she is right now and is actually not a bad support. The W changes are meh (I haven't been able to test them yet), but I really do want the Mantra E damage back. Was fun to use off of someone to deal damage at a large range or in a large area around your initiator. I just hate these changes.
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Rioter Comments
: Champion Mastery - Feedback
Hey Socrates, I hope you're still looking at this thread because I know someone that has a problem with Champion Mastery. My friend goes on tilt very easily if she loses a game, and she doesn't want to see a bad letter grade telling her how she performed in a game. Can you implement or is there an option to turn Champion Mastery off? Thanks
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Star Guardian Lux!
Main thing that stood out was not being able to tell when illumination was on minions
: This Syndra skin is **extremely underwhelming** and it makes me sad. Especially with such a cute name, I imagined diamonds popping out as Q and everything. I have to say that a nice Syndra skin would've probably been a huge hit. But releasing such a.. boring (sorry!) skin, model wise (she isn't that good looking, she doesn't even have hair...) is a mistake I believe. If you are to release a skin without adding new effects and particules to her skills, especially Syndra's since they have such a huge flashy and beauty potential, you really better make the skin itself look stunning. I would've jumped on a 950 or 1350 Syndra skin named Queen of Diamonds, I mean it. But as it is right now, it's a **no no**. Hopefully our voices will be heard. PS: I have to say, very nice job with this nice Ezreal skin. See? I don't mind having the base skill effects on this skin, cause the model is so nicely done it makes up for it!
: yeah but the point is really in those 225 rp. They promise last year that they will released more cheaper skin for a lot of champion (and 750 is the lowest tier skin), they just keep their promise with this one (syndra shouldn't be left outside the pool just because of her dark sphere)
Well what's the point if the base fits so much better aesthetically?
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Playing Card Skins!
I think Ezreal's hair could be a wee bit shorter. Its height looks strange from the front and in game. I like how the back looks though.
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