: Azir Feedback
I'm just sad they killed his thematic...
: Wit's End and even Hurricane can be bought by AP champs... Anyway as I said earlier, I can live with a Stinger, but then the item needs an adittional Thome or Blasting Wand
> [{quoted}](name=max1mumPBE,realm=PBE,application-id=2EAF660193FA3B668D7234B3AEBB530C5AB7F651,discussion-id=lK00EqEF,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2015-11-05T17:29:13.521+0000) > > Wit's End and even Hurricane can be bought by AP champs... > > Anyway as I said earlier, I can live with a Stinger, but then the item needs an adittional Thome or Blasting Wand They can be bought by AP champs, but they're not as nearly afficient as Nashor's in AP builds. Runaan has been reworked and gives crit chance, you're not going to see it built on any ap champion. By the way yes, that would improve the build path.
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: But it just doesn't make sense that all the on hit items (devourer, wit's end, hurricane and botrk) have Recurive bow in its build path and Nashor's not. Anyway, I can life with remaining the Stinger, but AT LEAST give it an adittional thome or a Blasting Wand. 25 AP to 80 AP it just redicilous
> [{quoted}](name=max1mumPBE,realm=PBE,application-id=2EAF660193FA3B668D7234B3AEBB530C5AB7F651,discussion-id=lK00EqEF,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2015-11-04T23:37:47.097+0000) > > But it just doesn't make sense that all the on hit items (devourer, wit's end, hurricane and botrk) have Recurive bow in its build path and Nashor's not. > > Anyway, I can life with remaining the Stinger, but AT LEAST give it an adittional thome or a Blasting Wand. 25 AP to 80 AP it just redicilous Nashor's scales with AP, it's a niche item made for AP champions. The other items are made for pure onhit builds or AD builds, so the cooldown reduction is needed and Stinger provides it...
: But it's a straight up nerf to kayle, that statement makes no sense. She is literally the only common ranged jungler, before kindred. Why wouldn't you just make it so kindred only procs it once every 4 attacks, rather than nerf every other ranged champion, like {{champion:17}} , {{champion:10}} , {{champion:67}} , {{champion:29}}, {{champion:268}} . i realize those are not really meta picks, but they're fun why in the world would you want to nerf fun. Fix the new champion, don't nerf the rest of the roster.
I'm honestly ok with devourer getting nerfed, I have always preferred to play Kayle in lane so I wouldn't mind getting her out of the jungle and getting a bit stronger in lane. (if they compensate)
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: Honestly, if you want BURST on Kayle, I would buff her Q, not E. Her E allows her a build which I very much enjoy-- Runaan's Hurricane, Black Cleaver, Iceborn Gauntlet, Wit's End, etc... All those combined with her passive makes her shred ~60% of the enemy's defensive stats to 3 people at once, and also slow them. It's a glorious teamfighting tool.
Buffing Q too much would make her too toxic (and I say it as a Kayle main), remember pre patch 4.2 kayle? Q+E = dead. Of course they nerfed many things she used (lichbane) and also her E, so a little buff (like 0.15) on her Q wouldn't be too bad.
: Kayle's E when not active deals 10/15/20/25/30 + 15% AP bonus magic damage ONHIT. I know this works, but when you activate it, as you said, no splash from secondary targets. And no bonus dmg on seconds (as far as I know)
No, you're wrong, Kayle used to be broken pre patch 4.11 due to her high AP scaling on her E (0.4) and Runaan's Hurricane, which applied the damage on secondary targets, and also if they were really close to each other they were even damaged by the aura made by attacking the first target (thus getting almost double the damage every autoattack)
: Hurricane doesnt work with Kayle E. I guess they use the same basics.
It does. It doesn't do the small aura but it applies the bonus damage, and also applies her passive armor/mres shred.
: @ Kayle Changes
When was it changed to 0.3? By the way if Riot fixes the current bug with Sated Devourer while Kayle uses her E she's going to deal massive amounts of damage and won't need a buff at all imo.
: Sated Devourer doesn't work with active on hit effects, only passive. If you use E, you lose your passive.
But it works with Master Yi's E, why shouldn't it work with Kayle's E?
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: You get the 20 Stacks when you USE an ability c:
Kayle's E is considered to be an ability and has spell effects when autoattacking.
: Since it is an Auto as well it won't stack. The new wierd item doesn't stack on auto's so, but since it's also a spell it will trigger it, I think that it's technically fine. Use q and w and moving to stack it and then e for long range applying it.
I wanted an OP Runaan's Kayle to be existant. I feel sad and disappointed :(
: You can't {{champion:10}} yourself {{champion:10}} unless you really are {{champion:10}}
My EUW account's name is {{champion:10}} so I can {{champion:10}} . (capital i).
: You're not {{champion:10}} why do you {{champion:10}} so much about {{champion:10}}
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: its like udyr changing stances... obvy should interrupt it
It's not like udyr changing stance, she doesn't get any bonus from changing stance, it's TOTALLY different. It's just a visual/sound change, nothing that should change your in-game behavior in my opinion.
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: Mana cost on kalista's passive? Thoughts?
It cannot be, since she can't interrupt her AA Animation and whenever you have to farm you use 15 mana? ?_? Not possible.
: Azir, the Emperor of the Sands
I think he is a pretty hard to masterchampion, with unique mechanics. The fact that his W has a little channel makes everything harder. His late game seems too strong, really and I haven't understood if the W is supposed to apply on-hit effects or not (ex: nashor's tooth). The AP Scaling on W seems far too high: compare it to Kayle or Teemo: 0.25 and 0.3, but they add a 100% ad for every autos so maybe it's fine. He does too much damage to towers with his W. His laning phase seems pretty weak tho, but his zoning seems strong if ahead. In teamfights I like the fact that if someone jumps on him he can totally disengage and keep attacking, and I think he can make plays against melees using his ultimate just because his enemies cannot pass through it but he can. I find him a really cool and unique champion. EDIT: Forgot to say the bug about the joke animation and the dance animation, sometimes they don't trigger off.
: 'Ascension' game mode coming soon to PBE
Seems really cool, gonna test tomorrow :O
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: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Riot Kayle!
The skin is really nice, but blue-red particles on Q would be better, the E is really AWESOME. The only problem I find in this skin is the walk animation, sometimes she's like a cube of ice floating into the air. Don't forget that when kayle stands still for a little bit of time she starts doing some animation. Original Kayle bends the right wing to Kayle for example: this cannot happen with Riot Kayle skin so a different animation would be better ( I know it's a 975 RP skin, and sorry for my poor English)
: Whats with people's excuses on PBE?
People not from NA have really, really high pings tho. Playing with +200 ping isn't that easy, of course having 20 cs at 20 mins is pretty strange but it's a testing place, I don't pretend people to play perfectly.
: Request: Nidalee, Shyvana, Elise and Swain
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: Hi, You can stay here for a very long time. Just be an active PBE community member and Riot is going to keep you! :3
: Oh thanks! We'll look into this! Also, I really appreciate those repro steps! \ o / It's the best!
Same thing with Joke, You can Laugh, then Joke and you'll just "jump" and stay on place without the Joke VO.
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Riot Kayle!
I think her recall isn't very impactful... If i watch it I only see 2 really small things going in the air doing like nothing D: Her move animation seems pretty strange too, or maybe it's just me. I don't ask her q to be a totally different effect but at least a different color (blue maybe? idk), and her W should have like the sound of Riot Blitzcrank W, which is pretty funny xD I see now in the PBE the autoattack and the E have no sounds so I expect a whole different SFX :O PS: Sorry for my English :c

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