: Right, well....why the fuck is Shaco still allowed? Shaco was arguably THE most anti-fun champion to face in URF mode, and yet he's available in this version of ARURF.
That's an excellent point and I hate Shaco normally. It's because of his winter skin and people probably would see he's out of the game and complain since he's allowed in normal URF unlike Sona (who has a winter skin) and they removed her completely from all URF modes which is why she isn't here.
: This is so stupid Player getting 1 chat restriction on honor lv 5 -> reset to level 1 Player trolling without feeding and chatting (i.e. throwing teammates as tahm towards enemy team or picking enemy zilean bombs on purpose to kill teammates, building 5 tears) -> honor level 5 no penatlies Pls fix it. Chat restriction should be a warning, not a middle finger towards someone who was nice past 3 months and trolling detection should be improved.
I am only concerned because chat restrictions are usually only given because of abusive/homophobic/racist remarks that Riot considers all zero tolerance. So I fully agree with Riot in removing someones Honor level for being abusive in chat if they did do something they consider zero tolerance but if it's a minor abuse they shouldn't be reset completely. * Loss of Honor 5 if hit a zero tolerance abuse: abusive(death threats etc.)/homophobic/racist * Demotion to 4 for a first time offense chat restriction. * Demotion to Honor 1 for any future offenses. (You should only get punished once before you fix your behavior honestly) The chat needs to be a completely safe, stress free form of communication for everyone-any form of abuse should be zero tolerance. I also feel that Riot should show exactly what they consider abusive- but that can lead to other problems with people using the information to 'toe the line' in what is or is not okay. Behavior is harder to tell, your examples are great for showing abusive behavior, but those without constant reports don't get seen as quickly. They are more subjective to the system as most reports go through a system before they get filtered to a person, this prevent false reports. Being nice for years, doesn't excuse a single day of abusive behavior. I agree that trolling is a huge problem and avoiding chat/feeding is unfortunately a very easy way to prevent being reported. However, saying you have been nice for a few months and that's why Riot shouldn't punish you for being abusive, is well not how games should treat player behavior. Someone could just be nice for 6 months, be a total jerk for a few days and go back to being nice again. Punishment free. Which is not okay.
: It been a day and i don't get RP
It can take some time! I wouldn't worry but I suggest you submit tickets to the support for PBE instead of posting on the boards. I mostly say this to not be rude, but the biggest issues on the boards have been "I didn't get enough rp/ip" and its become a bit of a problem (something I noticed) and it's usually ignored.
: Found the bronzie. An iteration of URF with no annoying bs like Kayn, Lee Sin, Sona, Soraka, Yasuo, Riven, Zoe, Rengar, Ekko, Morgana, Garen, Hecarim, Skarner, Jhin or Zed and you still find a reason to complain, enjoy the mode instead of crying because you cant play your favourite champions, smh.
The issue is that a lot of the champs that we can play, are not champs some people do play. Everyone has certain champs they enjoy and some they don't. It's a lot harder to enjoy a game when you have to learn how to play the champ in a faster paced way to start with. When you have to focus on learning how to play a champion, try and at least not be a burden on your team, and do it all in an extremely fast paced game mode where you can be against someone who is playing their mains, is extremely frustrating. Not to mention PBE can be very laggy, and filled with bugs. They did cut out a lot of champions that have been labeled by the community a problem to play against, in the cheapest and easiest way possible under the guise of "Look guys it's sorta christmas/winter themed" so they can simply put up URF this year and call it good.
: They just chose champions with a winter/christmas themed skins + Lissandra, I think 80/90% of the people are disappointed about. that but still Riot probably will not do anything to change it
I'm honestly only disappointed because most of the champs that are an option, are champs that most players don't seem to play. Each chance I have gotten to play a champ I know and I am comfortable with, someone leaves. The next match up I get a champ I know literally nothing about, and I do poorly because I have to take the time to learn their kit which is now URF mode version. I've seen a very large amount of games being tanks verses tanks and no one is having any real fun because of it but no one is wiling to deal with the dodge penalty and probably doesn't have rerolls. Riot isn't going to change it because they made URF to be a one time thing, it became way too successful and they couldn't keep up with the orginal way it was done. They don't want to make it voting based because then that will take too long in champ select and they don't want to remove "all random" because then they have to deal with players literally playing against the same OP champions. Its why Sona has been effectively removed as an option, she is far too strong on URF and Riot doesn't want to deal with it. However, URF makes them money, so they simply refuse to end the gamemode.
: Are you guys still experiencing these massive ping spikes? Please post which server your main account plays on and how long ago you finished your game.
Just played a game NA. Ended the game a few min ago, at 6:35ish. Everyone on both teams hit over 2k ping for about 10 min. I ranged from 800 ping to 1k on average. Everyone else on my team was 1500 to 2k. I don't know what servers they were on. After the 15 min mark, we seemed to have regained normal ping.
: Heya Nymeria - We're going to be putting in the option to hide the preset pages in the inventory, but unfortunately it won't be in for the launch of Runes. I know it's annoying for folks who like a cleaned up Inventory, so look for the filtering in the next few patches soon after Preseason start. If you have purchased rune pages in the past, however, you will be able to create more than 2 pages. All of your current rune pages are getting transferred over to the new system. If you have any more thoughts you'd like to share about runes we take feedback & bug reports [in this topic here](https://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/client-new-features-feedback/uqXvqPFv-runes-reforged-pbe-bugs-feedback-thread). Thanks for posting! :D
Thank you for allowing players who have runes pages to keep them. I am hopeful that means they will transfer overwell and keep Rioters workload at least a bit down.
: Leavers
The PBE is a server based in the US, on the western side of the country. There is a very large chance that the players who leave are being kicked out of games and are unable to reconnect. Players from further regions will experience higher ping and disconnects more often simply because they are so far from the server. It is very common on the PBE and it is doubtful it will ever change. Some games simply won't load in at all for players as if it never existed, so they can enter another game almost immediately after being removed from the previous one. Regardless if that game is still active. Loading into any game on the PBE has this risk and disconnects are simply apart of the server. It can be frustrating but this is not live, so it shouldn't be treated as "play to win" type server and more of a "play to have fun/test" server. Reporting is of course encouraged, however unless the player loads in, shows toxic behavior that would warrant a report, the system may just assume the disconnect was simply a server issue. So please make sure you report any toxic behavior like hate speech, racism, homophobia, and general abuse, disconnects or not.
: "Real" Star guardian Icons please
I agree it would be awesome to have, however Ahri got her's because of the cost of her skin being legendary. That's the only reason we have the icon of her.
: How do you even get the boarders tho. They don't tell us that. {{item:3070}}
I'm sure it will be like first strike, buy the skin on release without the discount and get a boarder. Or wait until they would be on discount and no boarder.
: There are way more wrong things with the Ahri splash besides the arm. She even has 7-8 tails depending on how you look at it. And everyone knows why her face looks so barbie like and expressed their opinion on it and the response to it was basically a "nah"
Riots new phrase on feedback "nah". I know what you mean about the art, I agree.
: Np, I understand that you were mad with the skin/responses which is justified and stating they lied too and wanting a response, I just felt that you then went on a harsh tangent after that which wasn't warranted. Agreed, though I understand that they need vacations too, I feel that they should have someone in place. Hopefully they address things pre-post release. I'm mostly a lurker here last time I was active was for Queen Syndra when I wanted them to remove that ugly hat or change it.l, was thinking about complaining about Boss Battle Brands colors too. But this is probably the first skin I gave the most voice to since I love the particles so much and want a Syndra skin that I'm satisfied with (clear face, sexy, nice particles). Anyways glad you voiced your opinions we lost this battle but maybe this will help pave way for a better Syndra skin.
It wasn't a tangent. Tangents mean personal attacks and uncontrolled emotions and a lack of focus on the topic. Its a very fine line however. The only reason for me doing so was because of Riot behavior towards "feedback" considering they never ask for it until its usually too late to make any realistic changes. Since it happens so often, you would think they would have noticed when enough people point it out that it is obviously on purpose. You may not have felt it was warranted, but having been attempting to provide consistent and helpful feedback for years, (name changes are the reason its hard to track unfortunately), seeing it actively not make an impact creates a good enough reason for my response. I wish that was the case, but unfortunately, most of the better feedback like yours usually gets ignored after experiences like this. It's a company's bank roll verses public opinion. Riot is equipped to work on making a good game that's been very successful, it's in a teenage phase so self improvement is going to be a challenge. They can get very ego-centrist when their work is questioned because they feel like a bit of success means no changes are really needed. I'm not saying this about teens themselves, there is a huge difference between human age and a companies age.
  Rioter Comments
: They disabled the feedback on all the skins, so I assume they are done taking feedback. Edit2: it seems that pbe skin feedback usually last a week from what I've heard. So, they did nothing wrong there. Things people should note: 1. Time Wizard, the one responding to Ez and Syndra was/is on vacation which may explain why they didn't respond as much as kateyKhaos. Though I feel they should've designated someone to fill their spot. 2. It was stated yesterday that; "at this stage, her design is locked down" for SG Syndra. 3. Just in case people didn't hear SG Syndra voice filter cannot be removed as it's not layered like varus iirc. 4. Only the new SG Skins are getting boarders which sucks imo, but it's not a big deal since I don't really care about borders. Things I think still need responding: 1. Why did Time Wizard give false information on the splash of Syndra. Her being on vacation might be the reason, and she only saw an early concept of it when making that comment or the artist changed it after she made that comment. Though I think a statement should still be made about the miss information. 2. I still feel the Syndra is from a different group, veteran, lore, etc were bad reasoning for why she looks the way she does. There better be lore that comes with this to give insight on her design or else this reasoning is thrown out the window imo. 3. Responding to why they choose purple, why they didn't give her another color like Raka's or MF's, and why they didn't add more fuchsia or magenta if they wanted to keep the color purple. 4. More insight to the design process of her skin why they choose some certain aspects, like the same purple on her skin to hair, etc, why the spikes on the skirt, why they didn't go the Jinx route with her, if they feel the design is over crowded, why they didn't remove or reduce to head piece. Things they can do going forward: 1. Respond to the remaining feedback, give more insight to the design process of each skin, and respond to the questions I posted above. 2. Make sure that lore comes with these skins explaining their past. 3. Release a chroma with Syndra that changes her color or adds more magenta or fuchsia later for ip for a week then it's sold for rp, or make it rp at a reduced price. 4. Add the option to remove Syndra's eyepatch like you can for vi skin iirc. Just make it that either she has one glowing eye or the slash scar over her eye. I want to love this skin, I love the particles soo much. The animated orbs are probably one of the best though her ult could use more sparkles. I also feel Syndra would've benefited more than Ahri for the legendary as her ult and recall could do the same as Ahri while the only cool thing for Ahri is her charm animation. Syndra's orbs could've had more expressions like when you hit them or pick them up. Also her taunt and joke interactions would be cool. Probably the best vfx on Syndra. Her skin though is just overcrowded and clashing. I wish we could get one skin where we could see her hair and face clearly. Props to the artist of the splash though as it's lovely. The skin is not bad but it's not good either. It's saving grace is the abilities. Edit: I guess I'll speak on the other SG while I'm on this I guess. 1. MF and Raka are the best. Love MF's hair and both Raka and MF have the best colors. I do like the idea of making Raka's wing more prominent in he passive but understand this can't be done. Also wish her pet could be there more like people wanted. 2. Syndra, by now you should know my opinion on her. 3. Ahri I don't think is a bad skin besides her Q animation which looks clunky and the fact her pet is in the orb. I hate her voice lines though, but that's the personality they were going for. I honestly don't think she is legendary quality though. Besides her charm animation which I love her ult and recall are the only other bug things which could've been Incorporated into all the SG Skins I feel. She doesn't have anything that makes her stand out as a legendary like Sion, Jinx, Ashe, Brand, Darius, Cait besides her charm animation. I also think her in game face looks odd. Her right arm on the splash looks weird too. 4. Ez. First off I don't agree with a male in the SG line up for the fact of the harem thing which iirc was used as a has tag in a tweet. If they added another male like taric and one more I would've been okay with it. His ult and home guard are cool but his face and hair model are horrible imo. If they wanted to choose another ADC they should've choose Quinn who's valor could've been a pet or Sivir who's weapon and shield could've been a star with her ult having the home guard animation if possible. I think this was the weakest of the line up. I'm just glad they gave him a makes costume and his hair isn't like the women's color separating him from the women. 5. Moving forward if they bring this back next year, Quinn, Sivir, Sej (Her riding her pet), Taric (another male who fits), Annie (tibbers her pet), Ashe (her recon is her pet), Diana (matches the theme imo), irelia (her weapon a star), Katarina (fits the theme), Kindred (wolf her pet, plus we have Raka who isn't human), leblanc (fits the theme), Leona (sun = star), orianna (fits the Android trope), Sona (fits the theme). You also have nid, Elise, and shyvana who for the half corrupted them where their animal form could be corrupted or the pet if possible. I guess for more makes TF, Rumble, Teemo, and Jayce may work, but at this point since makes are allowed make SG Brand so all my mains have the skin. I guess Sol could be their god too. Edit3: lots of grammar errors in this. Never type long paragraphs on phone. It's too late at night so I won't be fixing it though.
Thank you for your response on my comment before. I'm sorry I couldn't directly reply. I saw, after putting in way more effort then needed, the eyepatch. Which I felt was more ridiculous that I had to zoom in at all. To find out that they placed a Rioter with a vacation set to watch and respond to a thread that needed immediate attention is actually really dishearting. Thank you for your input and for being a member of the PBE.
: Hey Matrim, I'm sorry I made you feel that way, and reading back, my response did come off very aggressive. I apologize for that. Thanks also for clarifying your statement. I can understand your concern about the difference between a controlled vs uncontrolled testing environment. It's very true that behaviors of games and mechanics have different results once out into the wild. This is a very real risk we can potentially run into, since we run URF on PBE as AR URF. However, we try to mitigate this risk internally with the way we test. We not only do isolated testing of each champion and their mechanics, however we also conduct playtests as well to simulate these situations in a more 'close to real life' type of scenario. I'm sorry if I made you feel unappreciated. It was not my intention, and I hope you'll forgive me and we can continue to have an open dialogue going forward. Really, sincerely, thank you for your feedback. And thank you for your continued participation on the PBE!
: > [{quoted}](name=EpidemicPain,realm=PBE,application-id=cMKtzQHY,discussion-id=IeXlV3Iq,comment-id=000b,timestamp=2017-08-09T16:30:52.801+0000) > > First off, just want to say SG Syndra, for the most part, is a fantastic skin! ^^ > > Improvements: > > * Headdress is a little too large and sitting too high. The white spikes need to be shortened and the entirety of the headdress lowered. > * The eye patch, albeit a nice touch, blends in a little too much with the purple hair. So much so that it's difficult to notice it as an eye patch. > * Gold spikes on Syndra's skirt make the front of the model a bit too noisy. Reduce them in size or remove them altogether? Similar to the purple parts near Syndra's elbow. It's just too much of the same colour throughout whereas you can notice with the other SG skins, the colour accentuates what they wear and doesn't dominate the entire model. > * VFX are by far my favourite out of all of them, as is Multi, but a nice touch would be to include the heart-faced emote in the faces of her spheres. That seems to be absent. > * Many have mentioned the VO. I can live with the actual content of Syndra's VO with this skin since she is a veteran Star Guardian and has a mysterious past however, the tone in which she says them is a little too dark. > > Thanks. Hopefully some adjustments can be made to a skin I am very excited for! Thanks for your feedback, EpidemicPain! * I've seen peeps share a similar opinion of the headdress and the eyepatch. Like most aspects of the design, this remains so subjective, that tweaking one for some portion of player opinion will make it less enjoyable for others -- so unless it poses a large concern or there is overwhelming distaste for any aspect, we likely won't make changes to its design. For the eyepatch, you're right that it's next to impossible to notice in game. Floating/flying humanoids also tend to have smaller models to compensate for how much vertical space they're occupying, so the details are even further reduced. As other peeps have already noted, the eyepatch is a symbol we feel is critical to her veteran past, and will be much more noticeable in the splash art than in-game. * The spiky pieces on her skirt are part of the design for the same reasons as the eyepatch, as well as making her distinct from the others. She joined the team at a later time, and isn't from the same place as the other Guardians. * The reason the faces only rotate through three are because the orbs that float around her only display 3 different faces constantly. Regardless, will still pitch it as a suggestion -- no guarantees we'll be able to add it though! Really appreciate you taking the time to write out your feels. Even if we don't change something, we are always listening and reading and discussing the feedback that everyone brings to the table.
> As other peeps have already noted, the eyepatch is a symbol we feel is critical to her veteran past, and will be much more noticeable in the splash art than in-game. Hey do you want to explain why you lied? Because in her newly released splash art, her face is turned to only show one eye. You don't even see the eye patch. So either you lied, and weren't aware of the splash art design. Which means you weren't qualified to answer with that response. Or you lied, assuming it would and figured it would be a good excuse to avoid saying "We already finished the skin, this feedback is a useless formality we use to make players feel like they have an opinion when really we have no intention of doing anything to start with. Since the skin is already in final production and we wait until then to ask for public thoughts to gauge sales." Because that is exactly what a lie looks like. And to be completely honest, This skin design is a cop-out and given all the excellent work Riot has been doing recently on game improvement, skins, and the new Invasion game mode. I'm disappointed in the way Syndra as a champion, has been treated and how this is a huge refection on Riots ability to make mistakes because of lack of communication. You can find the splash art at Surrender at 20's latest post [here](http://www.surrenderat20.net/2017/08/814-pbe-update.html#more) [And here is a direct link to the splash art as well](https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-a8W_geC44Ak/WZHoelBCW3I/AAAAAAAArpE/2Stk3nvxXSYC4Omp0A-EZeR0Z2HX6a08gCEwYBhgL/s1600/5ffd4f964fb23caf.jpg) I will add one thing, all of the splash arts are stunning. Except you know, Syndra also doesn't have tights on at all in the art and it features way more white then her actual skin.
: I'm not going to explain the merits of doing QA in-house, however the purpose of putting game modes on PBE isn't /just/ for new champions. It's also for client testing, aka Game Flow, Champion Select, Rerolls, etc. Changing the pick type/champ select for this would invalidate that entire section of testing for PBE.
What they were asking, to my knowledge is: If you want us to properly test out in champs and kit changes, it would be nice to actually be able to test them out in URF on a more constant basis. Clearly seeing how Riot prefers ARURF, that will never be an option. I'm going to do my best to be super clear how aggressive and rude that response is. Which I will explain to you is unappreciated. My response was to point out how a private enviroment does not have any merit to those outside of that enviroment and will cause concern among those expected to test the same things in an uncontrolled public enviroment. I am well aware of the purpose of the pbe, I am here to test every aspect of the game and report any and all findings. I will happily continue to do so because I know Riot appreciates the feedback. However thank you for making me feel like any further communication with you is going to be a un-fun and challenging experience that I will not be looking forward too. Thankfully, you are a single Rioter out of many. I'm sure you have better responses to others. Not every single person is going to be polite when addressing you, it's apart of public responses. Have a lovely day.
: [CLOSED] PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Star Guardian Syndra!
I am very concerned that there hasn't been any Rioter addressing the colors. Yes it is very obvious that her dark purple colors are also her base colors. Yes it has become very clear that Riot did this on purpose, knowing it would create negative responses. Yes I'm sure not addressing it is the go-to response and I do not blame anyone for wanting to ignore the obvious. They worked for at least a year on this skin, knowing what would be a response. Really simple suggestions: * COLORS: Purple is something clearly, riot choose and doesn't care that it's a cop-out of choosing another color. However, that doesn't mean they can ignore the multitude of shades within purple. Any form of shading within the hair, bodice and skirt would lessen the washed out colors. From Lilac to Violet, Riot has used them all before. * Remove the spiky end of her hair and smooth them out, fade out the purple from light to dark, Miss Fortunes hair is a lovely example. Also the hair blends too much into the purple and its very uncut. If her hair was smooth with soft curls, she can still be "darker", every evil female villain shows this. Do not give a power hungry badass split ends. It's simply unrealistic. * If you won't consider the adjustment of the headdress and eyepatch, understand that it being "not as obvious but that's fine cause splash arts", Including any "Mysterious lore" responses too feel indirect and pre-prepared. You don't intend on changing it. Just say so. Sticking to your guns with direct honesty is also appreciated. You are also a person, you have a right to be direct. It would be unfair to expect you to be a robot. Also unless you have a lore reason for her to have one tight, give her the other one. They come in pairs for a reason and I don't know a single magical girl that would lose one. Better to match the team then to match her base skin. Especially on a 1350 skin that is supposed to reimagine her. Show some love for Syndra and know that darker characters can still match. Worse case, add it and tear it up so it shows her "veteran look" beside her eye patch. Was the skin creators too scared to make her too much like a Star Guardian, did they feel like she would lose her base identity ? So you just blended until this idea came up?
: > [{quoted}](name=EpidemicPain,realm=PBE,application-id=cMKtzQHY,discussion-id=IeXlV3Iq,comment-id=000b,timestamp=2017-08-09T16:30:52.801+0000) > > First off, just want to say SG Syndra, for the most part, is a fantastic skin! ^^ > > Improvements: > > * Headdress is a little too large and sitting too high. The white spikes need to be shortened and the entirety of the headdress lowered. > * The eye patch, albeit a nice touch, blends in a little too much with the purple hair. So much so that it's difficult to notice it as an eye patch. > * Gold spikes on Syndra's skirt make the front of the model a bit too noisy. Reduce them in size or remove them altogether? Similar to the purple parts near Syndra's elbow. It's just too much of the same colour throughout whereas you can notice with the other SG skins, the colour accentuates what they wear and doesn't dominate the entire model. > * VFX are by far my favourite out of all of them, as is Multi, but a nice touch would be to include the heart-faced emote in the faces of her spheres. That seems to be absent. > * Many have mentioned the VO. I can live with the actual content of Syndra's VO with this skin since she is a veteran Star Guardian and has a mysterious past however, the tone in which she says them is a little too dark. > > Thanks. Hopefully some adjustments can be made to a skin I am very excited for! Thanks for your feedback, EpidemicPain! * I've seen peeps share a similar opinion of the headdress and the eyepatch. Like most aspects of the design, this remains so subjective, that tweaking one for some portion of player opinion will make it less enjoyable for others -- so unless it poses a large concern or there is overwhelming distaste for any aspect, we likely won't make changes to its design. For the eyepatch, you're right that it's next to impossible to notice in game. Floating/flying humanoids also tend to have smaller models to compensate for how much vertical space they're occupying, so the details are even further reduced. As other peeps have already noted, the eyepatch is a symbol we feel is critical to her veteran past, and will be much more noticeable in the splash art than in-game. * The spiky pieces on her skirt are part of the design for the same reasons as the eyepatch, as well as making her distinct from the others. She joined the team at a later time, and isn't from the same place as the other Guardians. * The reason the faces only rotate through three are because the orbs that float around her only display 3 different faces constantly. Regardless, will still pitch it as a suggestion -- no guarantees we'll be able to add it though! Really appreciate you taking the time to write out your feels. Even if we don't change something, we are always listening and reading and discussing the feedback that everyone brings to the table.
> * The spiky pieces on her skirt are part of the design for the same reasons as the eyepatch, as well as making her distinct from the others. She joined the team at a later time, and isn't from the same place as the other Guardians. > > Really appreciate you taking the time to write out your feels. Even if we don't change something, we are always listening and reading and discussing the feedback that everyone brings to the table. I don't really feel like a lore reason should be good enough not consider changing them. It feels like its an excuse to not create some sort of middle ground. I have seen a lot of feedback on the idea of reducing them at the very least and lore doesn't feel like a good enough response to honest feedback. There's a line where skin design and lore should be separate and if enough players seem to all agree that design should play a bigger role, then it should. This is feedback from players is something that we know Riot appreciates, but in some cases, feels like it doesn't make an impact.
: Some feedback on the new Star Guardian Syndra Skin
I really hope the rioters who read the forums, pay attention to this post. Well thought out ideas like this, when ignored, show how little riot cares. I feel like its unfair to say they don't care, clearly by the hardwork and time they put into the SG skin line, as well as the Invasion gamemode, they do. Just not for Syndra.
: Hm. Basically: Upon completion of a round, we give you some amount of gold. Let's say for this round it's 100. You have the pickpocket mastery set. As a result, you gain 15 gold over the course of the round. When you complete the round, we only give you 85 gold. As a result, in total you'll still have earned exactly 100 gold. Does that make any more sense? Sorry, not sure how to word that better, hahah.
"If you earn any gold during the round it is counted towards your total gold amount earned at the end. It is not possible earn more then the set amount of gold in this gamemode. If you earned 100 gold total, and during the round the gamemode gave you 15 gold, the rewarded amount will show the difference of 85 gold." How about that ?
: We actually do extensive testing before PBE for champion changes, so by the time the mode hits PBE we're fairly confident it's working.
So because you guys did it in a select, controlled enviroment. Its perfectly okay?
: 1. thank you for finally bringing URF again! guess it will be followed by 3x Porokings and 2x Ascension but oh well ^^ 2. sooo why is it **RANDOM** URF again? 99% of all comments about ARURF are that **the Random makes it so much worse than normal URF**. i dont think that normal URF wouldn't be rdy for the new client because you guys just need to remove the random part. the random part is so cheesy when you get bad champs and the enemy team has a few op champs ... takes away all the fun without the random part it doesn't matter if the enemy team picks op champs - cause you can play the champ U WANT to play - you can play your main champ / champs your good with -> you can outplay the op champs - you can also play op champs (tryhard mode activated) - ** you can pick funny team comps (which is the best part about NORMAL URF! you can make sooo much stuff work in URF and its sooo much fun!)** - even if you lose ( cause the enemy team played tryhard-champs only ) your still had fun with the champ you wanted to play that game --- last time ARURF was in rotation i personally didn't have that much fun. and i LOVE URF! it's my fav gamemode ( mainstream :P )! but with the random - you guessed it - i got cheesed by random almost every single game ... the enemy team always had (at least 1 of them): Ezreal, Evelynn, Ali, Wukong, Mundo, Jax, Xin etc. and i got blessed with stuff like Singed, Aurelion, Yasuo, Bard (hey at least i could perma-portal ^^ thats fun i guess :D) so yeah i like hope we see normal URF soon™ and i hope that (when we get it) it won't be so super rare (like ARURF is atm)
I really agree with all of this. Right now a huge issue in URF is that people choose to jungle, leaving a laner to be in a 2v1 situation. Which results in that player having a poor time and usually just leaving the game, creating a 4v5 situation, after the enemy was fed due to a situation out of the players hand. The only thing I suggest is don't spawn jungle camps until 10 min in, and remove smite and smite items from the gamemode. Yeah forcing players to stick to just a standard 2v2, 1v1, 2v2, in the start of the game feels unfun but overall, having someone decide to jungle without any communication at all to the rest of the team also sucks. I've also noticed in a lot of games where it's three in a party and two random players. That creates a lack of communication, usually the three will end up being toxic and defensive towards their other teammates as well as encourage their friend to jungle and share a lane with the other player on their team. Ignoring the rest of the game/map entirely. Then when players try to ask for help, the 3 threaten and blame the other two for losing. Granted I have seen plenty of 3-4 friend parties who are not like this as well, it appears to be rare.
: “Invasion” PvE game mode falling from the stars to PBE soon for testing.
Can we please also have the skin feedback threads? Its early but there is a lot of feedback and conversation on Twitter. This gamemode seems to be extremely well made, I'm looking forward to it! I am just concerned about what > If you generate additional gold during an encounter (whether it be via items, masteries, runes, whatever) it will be taken out of you gold payment for the next round (So if you earn 50 gold, and should gain 150 gold, you’ll only be given 100 instead). means exactly?
Rioter Comments
: Sorry to hear about the issues, they are being worked on. LeaverBuster and LPQ have been temporarily disabled.
Hey sorry! This is just here to may bring attention to a larger issue ? EDIT: As of now, apparently, I was able to log in. I still feel like this may have happened to other players however! ~~I submitted a bug report but it appears that my account no longer exists ? I got the RP/IP amount suddenly, thought it was a bug so I reported it out of concern as well as my client crashing and the loss of my account. It appears many PBE players have issues logging back in. I cannot even click the sign in button. (If my account has been disabled/removed I received zero notice and I am also very confused/concerned about what I could have done to lose my account)~~
: disabled account?
Please go to Riot Support for questions like this.
: Syndra's W doing true damage before it is maxed
Please read [this](http://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/bugs/CF5EEDC8FF5AC1A896F517E2C7AE4650C472807F-how-to-report-bugs-on-the-pbe) and [this](http://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/general-pbe-feedback/G2h6QTbN-useful-information-for-new-pbe-players). Not trying to be rude, but this isn't a proper report.
: Can't open PBE
I would suggest uninstalling everything, all of the files too and then reinstalling for the latest update. The client has been recently changed over to the alpha/beta client so previous versions/files will not load. If you have more issues, contact Riot Support as they may have a solution.
: Yeah I bought the champs and I cant even get runes now
Champions are only 1 ip, so you shouldn't have lost it all.
: IP&RP compared to last year
I am gonna say that last year was a special exception because they wiped everyone's accounts completely to reset for the crafting. It meant champs, rune pages, skins, etc were affected. They did what they could to leave rune pages but bugs happened. That was an _extreme situation_ that caused a lot of concern out of players who have been here for years and own older content(i.e. legacy content in the vault that will never return again) It was mainly for youtubers, like Surr@20 to make sure they got back what they lost. It wasn't anything other then that and now everyone gets daily refunds of rp/ip and you have no reason to instantly buy anything. There is a lot of posts on the boards of people expecting to get everything for free when that isn't reality. You still have to earn things on here so mimic a testing enviroment. The other reason we got so much, was because people were constantly using the boards to complain about not having enough ip/rp and that isn't the purpose of this forum. So please, be understanding that it was a unique situation last year and will not be repeating.
: I only received 10k IP
This isn't a bug, please remove this and read [this](http://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/general-pbe-feedback/G2h6QTbN-useful-information-for-new-pbe-players)
: I feel like now that champions like Khazix and Talon are more movement oriented (instead of damage), it's pretty fair to give them the ability to move where they want to go every once in a while without being seen by wards. Raptor buff works the same way, and certainly has not broken the jungle.
Yeah but the buff was for a duration of time and only if you choose or could smite Raptors. The new Duskblade passive has no CD and is constantly up since its a bonus addition to an item. Not even supports get this option with any other item. Both Talon and Kha have received damage changes that have greatly increased their output of damage if played well. They also both have abilities that give them increased movement and invisibility. All Assassins are damaged base with different ways of going about it, they are still very much damage based with more focus on roaming instead of cleaning up after a skirmish (which they do well as, but they are more duelist over clean up, unlike Kat or Fizz who do wonderfully as clean up) This free buffed red trinket is a kick in the face to supports(as a passive on a Utility item makes more sense for supports to have) and adc's cause warding is the only way to keep them safe. It has really harmed gameplay as it gives assassins a very large independence from their team in a negative way. Assassins should be able to roam, kill, and roam as they please because their team has the tools to support that playstyle. Right now, they get those tools and still roam, kill roam.
: Why is the Remake button not there?
I have yet to see anything that has stated the remake option was removed. If it has been, there's nothing we can do. However, if it does not show up and it's still enabled, then please report that in bugs :) Thank you!
: Or people can stop pretending to be moderators?
You know the whole entire point of a board system like this is so we can help each other out, and there nothing wrong with pointing out a misplaced post. Riot doesn't moderate the boards and it is up to us to make sure information is where it needs to be. If you have an issue with it, then bring it up on a board yourself to be discussed or take the time to understand that you have no reason to be this upset about people attempting proper and clear communication over the internet.
: Why are YOU telling him this.
Considering that the post was misplaced. Have you bothered to read the PBE Newbie Tips yourself ?
: "Don't say some dumb comment on why the healer should stay as currently is please, at least say another way to completely gimp it or extremely inconvenient way towards laners." In other words - "Please don't argue against me, if you do I will just say your argument is retarded or stupid or something meaningless. If you are going to reply, only do it if you agree with me"
They make one comment, and then suddenly have an entire argument prepared. Just better to ignore them. They just comment to wait to jump on someone. My comment had nothing to do with how the healing plant works, where it's location is, or anything involving an argument they were looking for. My comment was very simple and without any hidden meaning to response to what they stated at first. Nothing more needs to be said on the subject.
: As long as laners stop being able to grab the healing plant by thierselves I'd be happy.
That plant isn't for just junglers, it's for everyone. It's why it's in the river.
Rioter Comments
: Cannot get Elementalist Lux
I would suggest waiting to purchase anything in the store, until it's been officially announced by Riot or even on Surrender at 20. Most items are added and removed often and it is better to wait. They are prepping for the next patch, and until our patch is done with on the PBE anything added now, without official "hey you can test this now" isn't gonna be available. It is also not a bug if you lose ip/rp, as you made a purchase, even if it resulted in nothing given. So always be careful! Riot won't refund IP/RP on the PBE as there isn't a point.
: Blue loading circle on loading screen
Its not a bug, it's a new feature.
: Unfortunately we can't actually change the mini map icons :( #techdebt
That's understandable! Hmmm too bad you can't black out the minimap during that time. So unless you see them in a lane, you have no idea who is who. Literally having to depend on pings and team communication to survive during that time.
: Doom Bots: Bugs and Feedback Thread!
When the devilish duplicates are active, it doesn't affect the minimap at all. So we can still tell who is who from teemo. Also if possible, I suggest bringing Garen spinning from the brush again. (also those electrified turrets are very rude)
: DoomBots Teemo.
He is considered an epic monster, like baron or dragon.
: I agree. Kinda like how people wanted both URF and ARURF. But also, I feel like the old doom bot were much harder and required more teamwork to beat. Where this is kind of... pick a bunch of AoE champs because the bots love to group so close. The only challenge is really when Teemo spawns. It might be because I've improved at the game since last doom bots, but this is more casual than a challenge.
Right now the bots aren't as difficult as they should be, it's a known bug and will be fixed in the next few patches.
: Fun fact, for a while internally this curse was called "Yasuo Wind Wall (Sorry James)" because one of our teammates hates Wind Wall so much :'D I do too. It tilts me. XD
If you put that into the chat randomly, I have a feeling less people would be upset with dealing with that ability. Tell James we are on the same page. Do you have any more fun facts about the development ? Cause I love hearing about the process and things like that!
: Doom Bots of Doom going live soon on PBE for the RGM queue
Just, remove Windwall and those curses sound horrifying to play against but fun. (my reason for removing windwall is because that's an incredibly frustrating ability to play against and on higher difficulties could make it un-fun to play against.)
: Doom Bots of Doom going live soon on PBE for the RGM queue
I wasn't able to play the original Doom Bots so now I'm super excited!!
: This skin in general is a very good idea (of course is a female team skins, sry urgot), but there are few problems. Janna's q and w SFX which are the magical tinkles, they sound in an unnatural way. Especially her q SFX, that sounded very loud (is like raping my ears). Maybe if the SFX can soften down that will be perfect. Also her face in the splash art looks quite old fashion animated. But over all, her moves and colors are pretty in the way she is. Though I thought "Star Guardian Soraka" will be a perfect idea XD
: VO is something only legendary skins get, SG Lux doesn't have any new VO! :O She does have some new animations, which are more in the ways of freebies since we really wanted to make one of the first non-military themed skins for Lux nice! As sort of a "Sorry we didn't make a girly skin for her yet!" >< If we had the time, we'd definitely want to add more animations and VO :) Would be so cool.
I meant she does have different quotes not a completely different voice. My bad! (this is not attacking you at all, I wanna have a fun and friendly chat with you cause I appreciate your responses, and I already am gonna buy basically all the SG skins I can so don't think I am saying any of the below out of malice. Just concern) That's also the point, it would be something "fun" to do, but releasing the skin now and asking for feedback is kinda useless when it's too late to make any adjustments. I don't feel like any of these skins need visual adjustments but 1350 for a skin that isn't on par with everything Lux received, is kinda just, upsetting. Your reasoning of "sorry we didn't give Lux anything super girly yet" isn't a reason to not include it in the other skins. Even though, it's completely understandable why you gave Lux that kind of treatment. Since they were freebies, thank you! That's actually really awesome to see that they were supposed to be a gift for Lux. I appreciate the apology though considering I've some how ended up with every skin of Lux's besides Imperial I feel like the Star skin was a perfect addition to my apparent need for Lux skins.
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