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: Anyone notice an overwhelming increase in the amount of toxic/troll players recently?
Last i checked you have to have NEVER had a ban when you signed up and be level 30 i've seen people who obviously dodged one of those two requirements should never have opened the PBE back up.
: Nerf Zoe
or you could just get good and when you see the ball coming from the edge of your vision just step slightly to the side of it the hitbox on it is god fucking awful. and they gave people stats to make up for not having MR runes kid if you payed attention rather then complaining you'd notice these things
: Yeah it's infuriating. I haven't even gotten the chance to play against her! Every enemy zoe has gone afk, causing their team to remake! This is a complete disaster (not rito's fault tho) {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}}
she doesn't afk the enemy team are salty kids who refuse to wait when a new champion is released and refuse to accept that new champions destroy the client every time ones added to the PBE the loading screen doesn't even start for a good 2 minutes.
Rioter Comments
: Taliyah's passive wind-up and wind-down time should scale with her MS
or they need to increase the range on her passive so she doesn't literally have to be grinding her face into the wall to get going it would fix the short wall issue because she would start sooner and it would fix her jumping off then back on because the game would always see she is close enough between walls.
: Taliyah's ult needs a circle range indicator
Well if you were smart you would actually gank with extra length to the wall so it blocks their escape route since the wall created by taliyah's ultimate is actually a wall and requires an escape tool to get over. However you are not wrong. it does need a real radius since the arrow follows the curser and won't even actually show up on the ground.
: Dominion and Bard
maybe git gud? man up and dive that instakilling lazer get that chime BE A MAN!!!!
: Put the spectral wolf from the old devourer onto the new Guinsoos rageblade
: Final thoughts on the Vel rework [50+ games played]
yeah....nobody cares that you find him less fun and your imaginary rank has nothing to do with PBE
: Malzahar please weaken him
was any of this english? was he complaining? was he saying malzahar is to strong or two weak? SO MANY UNANSWERED QUESTIONS.
Rioter Comments
: 2 things : > no we should leave it to you to test 4 extra skins and make sure they have no graphical bugs, I'm saying that you can leave those things to the fairly numerous players who own those skins. You're acting as if I'm the only person on the PBE that has them, but in my friend list (which contains 9 persons), I know at least 4 who have limited Poppy skins. As a rule of thumb, testers that have been there for longer actually own more skins and are more dedicated to the PBE than the average player. This means that yes, you can actually leave testing old skins to veteran players just like you do for every other limited skins. > im sure the client players want another azir You wot? Are you really comparing visual/autidive glitches to a champion having functional issues? Do you truly think that Poppy using a certain skin will simply be able to buy Runaan and/or generate gold faster? You need to sober up mate.
The amount of fucks I don't give about this is lower then your IQ your just another idiot child that talks like you know someone to make a point when you don't even know what your talking about kid. you just want everything to yourself like those losers who threw a fit over the Halloween and Christmas skins being re-released.
: no both are on 1 side.. the enemy stay infront of his gate .. and poppy go through it with him when useing her E on him ..then there is no collision on the gate the thing is poppy`s E is not a skill to jump over bushes or walls.. its a skill that collision with them so it cant be right that i can pass "enemys side" gate with it ...i know it would be strange too if enemy collision with his own gate .. but it makes also no sense that poppy go throuugh it..since it should be a wall for other team :D 2nd part you say "If she is on one side and uses it on someone standing on the opposite side she is allowed to go over the wall to charge them." makes no sense .. you cant use her E over walls gates bushes or whatever... unless you mean own team side.. but then its no real wall for poppy anyway
the first part is a bug the gate should stop her if she already hit her target however ... look she can jump walls if she has a target if she hit them even the enemy gate is suppose to stop them. I'll do my best to show you in a diagram Poppy is the X the enemy is the O and the l is the wall. X- - l - ->O this is allowed because of the way the move works. Think like a ward hop but done to the enemy champion instead. X- ->O - l -> this should not be allowed this is a bug X- ->O ->l this is how its suppose to work the poppy hits the enemy,the enemy hits the wall,the wall stops them. and it should work the same on both walls be it poppy's base or the enemy base simply because neither are allowed to pass over normally. Poppy cant pass through the enemy's wall normally and the enemy cant pass through poppy's wall normally. Someone considers it an obstacle so poppy should be stopped at both.
: Two (2) Poppy Bugs
only time it's happened to me is when someone spam ulted to get me and the lane i was ganking away and she pushed us into the wall.
: It shows that some people do own them, which means that they will inevitably get tested.
because it should totally be left to a handful of people to test stuff like that right? its not like there are barely any people on PBE to begin with or that a fraction of those people only come onto the PBE to test huge changes like the Marksman update. no we should leave it to you to test 4 extra skins and make sure they have no graphical bugs,that they don't break certain items and dozens of other things... im sure the client players want another azir.
: I've got 4 skins for her personally...
good for you. don't know why we should care.
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: [Bug] Poppy
because you mentioned Lee Sin i assume you mean she can go through it by using heroic charge from the other side then that's intentional if you mean she charges someone and she goes through due to them being part of her dash then that is a bug. In other words, If she is on one side and uses it on someone standing on the opposite side she is allowed to go over the wall to charge them. if she rams someone into it she should get the collision damage not just pass through.
: It's happening across all the skins, she just starts talking non-stop at about 50% hp.
: Champ Select is broke
does if you don't quit instantly
: People STILL find ways around this new champ select.
find a match quicker? last i checked they force you to choose fill, either you choose one role and fill or just fill alone. and i said before it would be a fucking problem. but NOOOOO EVERYONE WANTS TO DOWNVOTE.
: Dodging for champ hovering in new draft
...i said this and got downvoted he says it and gets 11 upvotes
: You must really like team mates who give the enemy a 4 man hug for free repeatedly. {{sticker:zombie-brand-mindblown}}
thats not even possible to do in champion select...
: Why should AP have the upperhand?
really you morons are bitching already? THE CHANGES AREN'T EVEN LIVE AND YOUR ALREADY CRYING CUS THE 5,000 SCRUBS WHO HAVE A PBE ACCOUNTS LOSE FAST? no mage who is on even ground or behind would fail to kill someone on one burst except control mages and dot mages if that's the case then its not your job to kill them instantly its your job to whittle them down or be a threat if they have to constantly farm for health then hurt them for it or be the threat you are suppose to be. Hell even champions like malzahar wont have a problem and the only thing he has that isn't a dot is his silence idk how you are having problems anyway since EVERY mid laner who uses mana now-a-days takes Morellonomicon which applies grievous wounds making it impossible to heal and if they do fail to burst they always have one spell on low cd. there are even a lot of mages that have a lot of sustain. to top it off mid lane is still dominated by one shot champs like annie and assassins i don't know why i need to tell you this but you aren't going to survive an assassin burst (insert rengar .001 second delete clip here) or an annie burst.
: 100% agree entirely with the second point. Too many salty X mains who refuse to play another role. As for the first point, let's say I main Lee Sin jungle and Elise. I pick Lee Sin as my prefered, as I'm scared of him being banned. Both champions make it out of the ban phase, and I'm last pick. The team looks like this: Top: Sion Mid:Talon ADC: Sivir Support: Janna Now, as you can see, Lee Sin will work good with this teamcomp, except that if you're playing Lee Sin your team is like 85% physical damage. This is bad. If Lee is automatically locked in, I'm fucked. However, I can instead just pick Elise, balancing the types of damage we have. Everything is cool. Or maybe I'm just afk eating cheese doodles whilst scratching my balls and watching netflix. In that case it's probably not a good idea for me to show up 5 minutes late and feed 0/7 against an invading Godyr. It also saves time as people don't sit for SEVEN FREAKING HOURS FOR NO FLIPPING REASON WAITING FOR THE LAST SECOND TO LOCK THEIR SHITTY HEIMERDINGER IN. Hope I gave you another angle to look at this from, although I agree changes should be made so it's more obvious.
So your response summed up was you agree with he second part but the first part flew over your head? Ok. That ENTIRE wall of text was completely pointless since at literally no point whats so ever did I say anything about MAKING you choose a specific champion I said since the game basically chooses your preferred champion you don't get to auto dodge just because you afk'd in champ select or were still deciding when the timer ended if they aren't banned or picked. basically its the same as how it is live if you pick but don't lock in except on pbe right now (or at the time of the post) its that but they get kicked for not locking rather then just picking nobody.
: I** gotta agree on this**. Even without the Runaans, We Oftenly **don't hear** the sound of her **Q** and her **auto-attacks**
i made another post pointing out what caused it its when an attack that would normally activate her new passive crits it had/has no sound.
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=Lizard PBE,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=PI9tvcI8,comment-id=00010000000000000000,timestamp=2015-10-30T22:04:34.173+0000) > > i have played quinn and know quiet a few quin mains that go up twords high diamond and they all say the same which is she is shit and can't do her job because of her shit ultimate putting her in the one spot she CANT be. and no quinn loses most lanes since she has shit range that turns melee when she ults, a shit blind that doesn't save her ever which is the reason it exists, she has more mobility now then before and the fact your stupid enough to compair quinn to rengar who could (and probably still can) delete people in 0.001 seconds proves you have no clue what your even talking about this conversation is over thanks for proving my point. Quinn when fed against two squishies https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJBsD4cx1Ag Late game, against full build adc: watch the Vayne https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hj_OsJss-dA&feature=youtu.be&t=7 Could you connect me with the Diamond Quinn mains you know? I'm always happy to meet more high-level Quinn players.
you compaired a terrible wanna be assassin to a champion who can delete people in .001 second(s) that 2 second double from an ashe that took 70%+ of her HP in towers its not the same as a rengar deleting the same champions in 1/100th of a second you obviously think quinn is better then she is right now and think that because quinn mains can carry with their favorite champion that she is good when she isn't and no i will not point you to the people i know i don't like people i don't know or ever spoke with adding me so im not giving their names out. its a if i don't like it why would they kinda thing one of which has actually stopped playing all together because adc is garbage.
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: It's a free aoe autoattack once you're past level 16, if you can channel before a fight. Before then it's still fairly cheap. Like a cheaper, more extreme, offensive {{champion:78}} w. Admittedly it's underwhelming for an ult, but the fact that the cost literally does become 0 renders your complaint invalid.
at level 16 when the ult does the least since you cant use that speed in fights trying to ult in a fight leaves the adc which is probably going to be the highest sustain damage on the team stuck in a 2 second channel. so no you cant use the ult before a team fight because there is no way you will ever be able to prep before hand without just getting shot out of it. how the hell you actually came here thinking you can compair movementspeed that is stopped by everything and shit damage to Paragon of Demacia which gives a good amount of movement speed that cant be stopped,up to 35 bonus ad, and up to 35 bonus armor means you don't know what your talking about. you don't even seem to know what the word invalid means.
: > [{quoted}](name=Lizard PBE,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=PI9tvcI8,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2015-10-30T19:04:53.155+0000) > > no you were complaining there is a difference between what you were doing and what you think you did. Quinns kit was garbage and due to the nature of it she had to be gimped so she didn't destroy people thanks to her retarded aoe execute,blind,and marks. the blind couldn't be good due to who she was facing off against most of the time,her aoe execute was more retarded then rivens, and the marks meant not only could she not have high damage due to the three but they also had to make her cooldowns trash because of them. Have you even played Quinn on Live? Ever encounter a competent Quinn main? You sound like you just glossed over her kit and decided to whine about it. Live Quinn excelled in lane and won matchups with blind, used the advantage to roam with her mobility, and transition into a rengar-esque assassin.
i have played quinn and know quiet a few quin mains that go up twords high diamond and they all say the same which is she is shit and can't do her job because of her shit ultimate putting her in the one spot she CANT be. and no quinn loses most lanes since she has shit range that turns melee when she ults, a shit blind that doesn't save her ever which is the reason it exists, she has more mobility now then before and the fact your stupid enough to compair quinn to rengar who could (and probably still can) delete people in 0.001 seconds proves you have no clue what your even talking about this conversation is over thanks for proving my point.
: Agreed on this, I haven't tried it out and actually he might be much stronger with the new masteries + new Rageblade, plus Nashor's now gives 50% ASPD instead of 30% so it kind of offsets this. However I agree that the on-hit based champions feel a bit weird with all the crit going around -- not so much the AD-on hit champs, since crit does boost their dps, but especially the AP-on hit based champs like Teemo, Kayle, Varus.
idk what you mean cus it still works for kalista's spears...last i checked.
: [Already reduced](http://www.surrenderat20.net/2015/10/1030-pbe-update.html#more)~
it needs to be removed not reduced its a mobility active you don't see MF having her movement speed buff costing mana which is basically the same except hers is stopped by minions not just slowed by them. champions live eve have mana costs on theirs because it not only isn't stopped by everything but it actually removes stuff like slows. Yi has one that gives attack speed and removes slows as well. there is no point to having a movement speed ult that costs mana.
: Her E isn't always good for escaping though. More often than not people with mobility will force behind her so she can't e to safety.
people with mobility still have to stop attack meaning if you run like you should when an enemy all-in's you with you pushing their tower (since they would only all in a winning lane with help or because your to low) then you will just walk past them then you can E away. if you die before you get there then you are dead anyway unless you chose tristana or corki no adc is getting out of that spot. and even those two would bearly get out if even at all against a lane that would be all-ining if they dive you the last thing they are going to be doing is moving behind you deeper into your tower range. your complaining about these things without putting it in a realistic situation.Quinn has no better chance getting out then any other champion in an all in situation except the champions who are known for getting out aka. being "safe champions".
Rioter Comments
: Her ulti really isn't too big of a powerspike. If an enemy laner hits six and all-ins you, you have no response.
you could just press E like you always did.
: First of all; you don't need to be rude. I thought this was a place to voice opinion on new changes. Pardon me for thinking so. Second; i'm focusing more on game play, rather than lore and character. I feel as though Quinn already had a great kit. She just needed minor tweaking. I'm not sure what it would be, but I do not feel as though she was handled as well as she could have been with all of these changes. This new ultimate, in my personal opinion, has greatly decreased her potential as a devastating force (as attack damage carries should be). But AGAIN, this is my personal opinion.
no you were complaining there is a difference between what you were doing and what you think you did. Quinns kit was garbage and due to the nature of it she had to be gimped so she didn't destroy people thanks to her retarded aoe execute,blind,and marks. the blind couldn't be good due to who she was facing off against most of the time,her aoe execute was more retarded then rivens, and the marks meant not only could she not have high damage due to the three but they also had to make her cooldowns trash because of them. the only place they can be a team is in their lore because they aren't one in gameplay and they aren't one in name. and what YOU think adcs should be is the exact reason these changes are happening there is nothing fun about 1 dimensional champions who can't do anything apart from being baby sat all game until they can snowball into oblivion. your just complaining cus the retarded execute is removed so you dont have the ability to get bs kills you shouldn't have got it is the exact same apart from the damage being flat damage rather then %health.
: actually there is a new item and if it does the passive damage and stacks its gonna be op on him it is called entropy its active is a 60 second cooldown and for the next 5 seconds you slow an enemy champion by 30% and you deal 80 true damage over 2.5 seconds so DoT on hit and if this stacks with each hit which idk I haven't tried it yet but if it stacks with each hit and you get all your autos off if you have 2.0 as and activate your w and get all 20 autos off in the 5 seconds that's 1600 true damage with 2.5 its 2000 true damage but that's if the 80 true damage stacks with each hit
mmhmm...you mean entropy{{item:3184}} the item that is currently in the game on the live server, that is a shit item even for the tanks who would want it,only available on crystal scar aka. dominion, and isn't getting moved? don't you have to be level 30 with basic knowledge of the game to get a PBE account? how are you even here.
: Yasuo is pretty weak on live so this is a nice buff to him to make him viable, perhaps they could nerf Yas a bit if it's to much.
no he isn't and only yasuo fanboys who suck to bad to play any other champion who takes more skill (including but not limited to - EVERYONE) would say yasuo needs a buff of any kind.
: Attack speed Kog'Maw build!!!!
you do that have fun losing all your games with that 40 damage auto attack.
: Anti-Stealth Ideas
there is no such thing as to much stealth countering. So long as pink wards are permanently visible anyone who plays stealth reliant champions are scumbags.
: Graves Shotgun Spray on Turrets
it is intended actually its what they are trying to make him. an ADC that has to get close to do real damage with his shotgun.
: Quinn changes.... less than awesome.
maybe if you weren't bad at this game you wouldn't mind the fact they made her into the champion she should have been.you complaining about them not being a team when they aren't is pointless because all quinns old trash ult was is she tells valor to come to her and he says fuck yo couch then flies off alone the new one he grabs her and takes her where she wants to go like a team mate should. and no quinn and valor are not a team kindred is a team, valor is an obedient pet who is there to take orders. none of what valor does can be considered its own choice everything is an order, from valors markings which is shown in the quote quinn makes to her throwing valor t'words danger telling him to rip their eyes out, to her calling valor down. if they were a team they would be more like kindred by having more interactions with each other on a regular basis,valor would attack on his own in defense of his friend not because he was told to similar to how wolf marks a territory to cover lamb, and by all means try to tell me "lamb tells him to attack people on their E" when in reality the simple fact that you have to fire 2 shots first is proof they don't because by that point it means they don't except death and all lamb does is tell wolf "ok they are running do your thing"
Rioter Comments
: I mean, sweeper lens still works on invisible traps and the like. It won't work on champions, though. Being able to put pinks down in key locations is helpful, and often times talons use their ults to try and escape. Being able to put a pink down on demand is useful, the same applies to shaco. Pinks are too valuable to not have their own slot.
yeah man i really don't care about your point all i said was we have had to put up with bullshit stealth for 2 seasons and not to get your hopes up.
: no we aren't suppose to let them...but we also dont have a choice in the matter we also cant stop {{champion:28}} {{champion:35}} {{champion:91}} {{champion:17}} or {{champion:29}} due to the exact same problem and haven't been able to for 2 full seasons now.
i just realised the terror {{champion:17}} will cause with no actual way to take out the minefield safely...
: We're going to need a slot dedicated to pinks wards, here's why...
no we aren't suppose to let them...but we also dont have a choice in the matter we also cant stop {{champion:28}} {{champion:35}} {{champion:91}} {{champion:17}} or {{champion:29}} due to the exact same problem and haven't been able to for 2 full seasons now.
: Because there' a guaranteed chance we'll see rengar ult from half way down river with clairvoyance. And there's totally enough reaction time to exhaust him before he completely erases a squishy.
anyone got that clip of the guy getting removed from existance in .001 seconds?
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