: > [{quoted}](name=Lastouch,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=vPW707N7,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-09-03T22:11:06.299+0000) > > I was thinking if you play on PBE to test features or to have a competitive match, anyway. Everybody feed some times, get over it! And leaver buster is responsible by the AFK's. > > So... who is the "rest of us"? Literally, nobody cares about your discussion! > {{sticker:zombie-brand-clap}} you realize you're being toxic? how on earth did you get the honor threshold? they really do allow anyone in PBE these days. smh
You're so funny, stop making yourself a victim with your irony. > "They really do allow anyone in PBE these days. smh". I **NEVER** insulted you, I'm curious to know where is the toxicity. I will repeat: 1. Everyone feeds some times, even the best players, 2. if you quit so many matches, the Leaver Buster will catch you. 3. This discussion is pointless. {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}}
: > [{quoted}](name=Lastouch,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=vPW707N7,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-09-03T11:39:37.249+0000) > > This discussion is pointless, we are playing on PBE, this should mean that we are here just to test features, give feedback, find bugs and report. Balacing teams is a problem to the live's server's. NO one will test anything if every game u play is ruined by countless afks and feeder. It has to be fun to attract players, because we don't get paid to do it. so sorry if this hits a nerve, but u don't belong with the rest of us.
I was thinking if you play on PBE to test features or to have a competitive match, anyway. Everybody feed some times, get over it! And leaver buster is responsible by the AFK's. > "so sorry if this hits a nerve, but u don't belong with the rest of us." So... who is the "rest of us"? Literally, nobody cares about your discussion! {{sticker:zombie-brand-clap}}
: Who would buy Star Guardian Xayah and Star Guardian Rakan skin variants
I would not buy a variant, I really care about lore and the nonsense that would be with voice lines, just increase the time of being pure of Rakan and Xayah, this way we can see more of the "struggle" that Riot talked about.
: ARURF sugesstion: Queue up feeders together!
This discussion is pointless, we are playing on PBE, this should mean that we are here just to test features, give feedback, find bugs and report. Balacing teams is a problem to the live's server's.
: Rakan's light form would be trigged with a successful Q. His uncorrupted form should last until he dies or uses ult or W. (I think that would be best probably, but I main Xayah not Rakan so I'm not 100% sure. It seems to make sense though since Rakans attack spells should be the ones triggering corruption, not the shield or heal.)
Definitly the best option we have for now. But maybe it's too late, I think. I already tried to contact a Rioter, but it seems useless.
: I suggested this in the Xayah forum but i dont think anyone upvoted it. Basically Xayahs uncorrupted form should last until she dies or uses W.
Sounds good! She would change many times in a match, so the "pillar" (Riot talked about) of struggle would be more evident. But, and Rakan?
: they why not make it when xayah is near rakan she becomes uncorrupted?
This is... interessanting. Somehow makes sense, since Xayah be purified on their recall together thanks to Rakan "energy". But, if Xayah is purified near Rakan, Rakan would be completly corrupted? After all, he gives all his "energy" to Xayah on their recall. This may bother Rakan's Players, and Rakan not being corrupted near Xayah won't makes sense and Riot won't approve it. {{sticker:zombie-brand-mindblown}}
: then why not make it when xayah hits lvl 6-11 she becomes uncorrupted?
Riot probably would say something about breaking the skin philosophy of "struggle" between light and shadow after lvl 6-11. This case would need new voice lines after their "purification" and this will make these skins more than just legendary.
: Hi, Beardilocks here to answer your question about uncorrupted variants of these skins. First let me start off by saying I love how passionate about Xayah and Rakan Star Guardians everyone has been! I can see that you guys love both their light and dark forms, and we have definitely heard your feedback that this is a feature that you would like. However, I'm afraid that it isn't quite as simple as it initially seems, as there are quite a few things to consider. Please bear with me and read the whole context of why we won't be able to provide these. When we set about designing the Star Guardians for this year, we knew we wanted to evolve the thematic and expand the storyline. Until now, there had not been any definite antagonist for the Star Guardians to fight against - just some slightly generic monsters invading the city. We chose to do this by establishing Zoe as a villain in the universe, and having Xayah and Rakan as fallen Guardians, whom she had corrupted with her evil. When we go about creating a new skin for a character we create 3 "Pillars": Core concepts about the identity of the skin that are like guiding principals that we always try to work in to every aspect of their character. For Star Guardian Xayah, these pillars were: - Corrupted former star guardian with **internal struggle** - Dark star guardian beauty/ beauty with an edge - Fierce warrior spirit As such, when we were making creative decisions about the design, animations, sound, visual effects and voice recording, we tried to make sure that we were representing at least one of these pillars. You can see that I have highlighted the **internal struggle** part of her first pillar, as this is the most important defining feature of this skin. In pretty much every ability, animation and recall, we were trying to play up the struggle between dark and light, between good and bad. You can see this in her spells - her W is her reveling in her dark power, using it to damage enemies. Her R is supposed to be the most exciting moment, and highlight of her gameplay, and so is the point where we create the most contrast, expelling out the darkness and returning her to her original light form. All her voice acting also reinforces this - her voice lines are a contrast to her normal ones, where she is a badass anime villain, especially taunting the _loser _Star Guardians of her former team. We also wanted to play up the dynamic between Xayah and Rakan in this struggle between good and evil. In both their solo and duo recalls we see Rakan trying to save Xayah from the darkness by taking it into himself, trying to sacrifice himself to save her, becoming even more dark and corrupted in the process. This all ties into the story of Star Guardian this year (more story details to come soon!), though I don't want to spoil anything more in that area. **If we were to simply put a light version chroma out of this skin it would remove the central pillar of this skin, the internal struggle between light and dark, and the thing that makes this skin a legendary.** It would mean that a lot of their spells would not make any sense. A light Star Guardian Xayah would turn dark when she uses W (which would be a big contrast), but she would not change at all when she did her Ult (which would feel less impactful than her W at that point). Rakan would fire darkness out of him when he did his W (which wouldn't make sense), and when he ulted he'd turn super dark and grow big evil wings. Their recalls would not make any sense either, as the whole aspect of corrupting darkness would be out of place, and there would be no emotional impact to Rakan trying to take the darkness from Xayah. Further more, none of the VO of them being evil would make sense either. Some players have suggested that they would be fine with stuff not making sense and I understand that, but I don't think everyone would feel that way. I welcome anyone who thinks _all_ players would let a "small" detail like most of their spells not making sense to go to read some of the responses of other players on the boards and twitter about minor details they don't like :( If we did commit to fixing all of these things so that they made sense for a light variant, we'd need to do entirely new visual and sound effects, new animations, new voiceover and new recalls. At that point, we would basically have to charge the price of a whole new skin, or to add these as a toggle they'd basically need to become ultimates, because it would take the same amount of development time as a whole new skin would. Deciding to do this would be something we would have to do at the start of development, not after they are revealed on PBE. Additionally, they would be alternate skins that don't really fit into the story that we're trying to tell this year, which might even potentially confuse players. I know you're super passionate about this, and it's something I think would have been awesome to see too, but if it was something we chose to do, I would definitely want to do it properly to do it justice. Instead we chose to focus on delivering dark, corrupted Star Guardians, which I think we did successfully, but I'm sorry if you're disappointed.
Why not just increase the time of being "pure"? Something like 3~5 seconds after Xayah's ultimate or Rakan's Q (Even if the heal don't complete the circle) That's enough to satisfy, a little, both parts. I think. {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}}
: i find that very intresting but i still want them as a chroma or a toggle they need to give us options of what we want to buy.... still...what u said is a very good solution Also...4-6 sec is not enough at all
I don't think a chroma or a toggle will be possible, Riot seems to be decided about it and I kind understand them. I hope they increase the "fabulous time" of them at least. However, as a Rakan Player I have serious doubt of the time being more than 4 seconds because the player could spam his Q and be "purified" for so long, this way "breaking" the skin philosophy. Thanks for your opinion, who knows what Riot will do about it. {{sticker:sg-soraka}}
: Why not make it that while xayah has ult she will be uncorrupted or something
There's a problem, because the enemy would easily know when your ultimate is available.
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