: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: PROJECT: Pyke
I play Pyke a lot, but this skin is not worth the price point right now. There's a level of detail and polish that we saw in DC Jhin that is just not demonstrated with Pyke's legendary. I'm going to sound really whiny here, but it's my honest feeling about how this skin turned out. Riot’s skins team is a group of extremely talented creators, and I respect their work and acknowledge the fact that sometimes riot might push them too hard before a deadline, or veto their ideas for the sake of money. But, either way, this skin just doesn't hold up to the standard Riot has upheld for the last year of legendary skins, and that should change between now and when this is shipped to live. #Animations: -The homeguard is... boring. I can't tell if it's the same as base, but either way, it is not 1820 quality. -The recall's animation looks off in general, and its thematic idea with the snake robot and him riding it just doesn't work in such a short span of time. His overall recall just doesn't read well and comes off as unfinished, there's no weight to his character model when he jumps around, and the snake just appears, instead of creating a hole when it exits from burrowing through the ground. The worst part of it by far is the fact that the snake becomes transparent for the last few frames as he returns to base. I'm assuming that this decision was made to preserve clarity, but why didn't they just animate it so that Pyke remained in front of the robot at all times? There's just so much that doesn't seem well thought out. -His respawn animation is boring, and there are no fun particles like there are with Eclipse Leona and DC Jhin. -His joke or taunt when his dagger turns into a claw-like weapon is REALLY cool. I wish that his dagger had this much detailed animation when it changes during his Q animation. Instead, his dagger is basically just “replaced” with a longer version for his Q. #VFX/abilities: -This is the best part of the skin, his E, W, and R are near perfect. His Q is lacking though. The projectile doesn't feel dynamic enough. It should look like his hook is extending, morphing, and transforming, like it does in the trailer, but instead it just looks like a moving triangle. This would be perfectly fine (great, even) if this wasn't a 15 dollar skin, but it is, so I'd expect his Q to push the limits a bit more. #SFX: -I was going to go ability by ability and say what I thought, but I came to the same conclusions for each one: The sfx do not do base Pyke justice. Base Pyke's sound palette does two things very well (imo): It references horror movie tropes, and also has a very musical quality to it. His base Q has a rising note that sounds like a horror soundtrack, and the visceral sound it makes when it hits someone is straight out of a slasher film. It’s stylised, not just filtered. His Base E sounds almost like a bell tolling from far away, lending to his pirate/ocean aesthetic. His R music upon executing someone references both horror and pirate aesthetics. Blood moon does a great job of retaining these influences, while expanding upon them. The BM Q SFX utilizes traditional east asian instruments to build up suspense. The W does the same thing. By amping up the musicality of Pykes SFX with traditional instruments, BM Pyke successfully makes the player feel like they are a part of an old fable, or horror story. -The problem with the project versions of all of these sounds is that they lose their depth, and feel like digital versions of base without the character. The project universe is cyberpunk, yet Pyke's new sounds fail to pay homage to the source material. Dystopia is about emptiness, yet all of his sounds are closer to a mecha skin than anything else. Cyberpunk is very different, especially the more rugged version of cyberpunk that P:Pyke is supposed to represent. Go listen the song "Hijack" in the Bladerunner:2049 soundtrack. This song uses electronic sounds and a fast pace to create tension, but it's not all machinery. It delivers on the cyberpunk aesthetic because it uses a lot of reverb to capture the vastness of the movie's world, and the protagonist's confusion with his own identity, both of which are applicable to P:Pyke's lore. He is a broken man, back from the dead, unsure of who he was before, yet his psychotic side isn't shown through any of his abilities. Why don't we hear the muffled voices of his past while in his W? Why does the music after executing someone sound like 80's synthwave and not the adrenaline fueled soundtrack of a fight scene? Pyke’s sounds have lost their edge in this skin, which is odd considering his character is even more insane. -Just take DC jhin as an example. His fourth shot idle sfx references the orchestral music of stuff like space odyssey. Connecting his skin to the genre of space movies (Where sustained symphonic pieces reign supreme), emphasizes the character's obsession with the beauty of space. I realize just how negative this feedback is, but I really do like what’s being done here. All of the design choices are solid, and they work for a decent project skin. All of my issues just come from the fact that players who buy this skin are essentially buying a 1350 skin with new voicelines. I don’t want players to feel ripped-off, honestly, and I also worry about what this skin’s quality means for future legendary skins. Was the epicness that we saw in BA Ezreal, Eclipse Leona(s) and DC Jhin just temporary?
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: PROJECT:Akali
Hi guys! I love the skin! One thing about everyone else's complaints: I know you (Riot skins team) is getting a lot of flack for the hair, but it happens to be my favorite part of the skin. It's unique, and the cyan/orange color combo looks really great in shroud. So, guys, **_if_** you end up deciding to change it, can you _please_ make it toggle-able? I don't want people's complaints to ruin what I personally think ties the skin together. Just make it so option+5 toggles it for the rest of the game. Okay here's what else I have to say: Model: The hologram on her back needs to be a bit more colorful, and the lettering should be more defined. It looks like an orange blob on her back from far away right now, but I really like the idea! Just up the contrast, making the yellow more neon, shift the orange closer to red and make the outline darker maybe? Also, please make her satchel on her waist more colorful! Or at least darken it. On every other skin, her "pack full of trouble" is much, much, much more noticeable. On project, it blends in, making her look more generic. This is a clarity issue in my opinion. SFX: The rest of Akali's skins have a signature "Ting!" when she uses her passive directly after casting the second part of her E. On this skin, it's just not as defined, making it sound a little unfamiliar. Speaking of her passive, the sound that signals the creation of her passive circle isn't loud enough, and the pitch is just a tiny bit too low compared to the rest of her skins, which have a sound that plays that is similar to a bell ringing whenever her circle appears. Maybe think about upping the volume a bit? Don't make it too loud though, some of her skins can give me headaches. Overall, this is a great skin. People are way too quick to criticizes these days! (I say this ironically, because I'm about to go over to the pyke feedback thread and complain a lot. The skin... is not 1820 quality imo). Have a great day, and please, god, keep the blue holo-hair, it's gorgeous.
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Invictus Gaming Skins
Irelia: The sound effects are _really_ disappointing for this skin. The auto attack and Q sfx are just as loud as Divine Sword Irelia, and I'm really confused as to how anyone let this happen since people have been complaining about DS irelia for that reason since pre-release. I own DS Irelia, but I use base more often because the Q sounds 100x smoother. Even if this skin's Q sound was replaced by the base effect, I'd for sure buy it, but I'm not going to drop another $10 on a skin that I'll get tinnitus with every time I clear a wave. I know for sure that I'm not the only one who thinks this. Also, the E1 blades look and sound too similar to base. They don't match the thematic of the rest of the skin. I suggest making the circle under the blades have more white as opposed to washed out blue. So now, I'm back to hoping I get infiltrator in my shop tomorrow.
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: K/DA Akali
Another random feedback: Can Q be purple? The green is barely noticeable in SR (grass), so it just looks like default. Also there should be some sort of simple particle effect on the blades in the ground (like blood moon).
: How come she has so many default sounds on her autos, passive, and q? Its extremely offputting. The skin is great, but you auto and q so much it pulls me right out of the skin. Just sounds like normal akali. Kai'sa is so cohesive and incredible, why arent they all like that? :(
Q is not default sound, it's definitely different.
: Hi! I've been maining this gurl lately and love the skin! Here are a few thingies: -The Passive initial circle procc sound is good, but it needs to be louder. I'm used to listening for that "ding" sound when I use my abilities, and this skin's noise isn't clear enough. Compare this to headhunter and its the difference between a cool summers breeze and the big-ol "GOOOONG" sound my air conditioner makes when I turn it on for the first time in months. This is my biggest complaint, honestly. -Unlike others, I love the cartoony feel of the designs. -The normal passive auto sound (not including the other one that happens after hitting e, that one is great) doesn't fit with the other sounds. It needs some oomph, like what you did with her Q. -Any chance you'll change her Q healing sound? Not a big deal, since the cool particles more than make up for that. -I LOVE THE PINK LIGHTING. Don't listen to these fools, it's so unique. Makes me smile. -I'd also say her R2 needs some oomph. Were you trying to make it sound like a spray paint can or something? Cool idea, but either way, it doesn't make the music-y feels of the other sounds. It just sounds like a REALLY FAST AND POWERFUL FART. Overall, this skin is 100%, 10/10 murdering my wallet. Would kama again.
Also, I'm assuming her recall is still being worked on, because at the very end she kinda glitches back to standing position after striking a pose, like "ok I'm done now, let's go home".
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: K/DA Akali
Hi! I've been maining this gurl lately and love the skin! Here are a few thingies: -The Passive initial circle procc sound is good, but it needs to be louder. I'm used to listening for that "ding" sound when I use my abilities, and this skin's noise isn't clear enough. Compare this to headhunter and its the difference between a cool summers breeze and the big-ol "GOOOONG" sound my air conditioner makes when I turn it on for the first time in months. This is my biggest complaint, honestly. -Unlike others, I love the cartoony feel of the designs. -The normal passive auto sound (not including the other one that happens after hitting e, that one is great) doesn't fit with the other sounds. It needs some oomph, like what you did with her Q. -Any chance you'll change her Q healing sound? Not a big deal, since the cool particles more than make up for that. -I LOVE THE PINK LIGHTING. Don't listen to these fools, it's so unique. Makes me smile. -I'd also say her R2 needs some oomph. Were you trying to make it sound like a spray paint can or something? Cool idea, but either way, it doesn't make the music-y feels of the other sounds. It just sounds like a REALLY FAST AND POWERFUL FART. Overall, this skin is 100%, 10/10 murdering my wallet. Would kama again.
Rioter Comments
: Way to Substantially Reduce Champion Select Dodges
I think that this is a decent idea, but people should be required to play autofill a certain amount of games to gain access to the special queue. That way not EVERYONE is waiting to play her at once.
: PBE training cant add bot
Yup there's no reason to add a bot because the training tool is disabled. (bot don't count as players)
: Can't connect to the game
Yeah, this is a mac issue, and not zoe's fault. Only started happening this much after yesterday's (nov. 9) patch. Rioters are looking into into it (particularly Riot Banfhammer). Here's a link to my salty post about this same issue: https://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/bugs/AAF3LkRX-yet-again-games-arent-connecting Good luck, fellow mac users! {{sticker:zombie-nunu-bummed}}
: What the hell is wrong with Zoe?
The only actual escape she has is flash. She has ONE short CC and ONE actual damage spell. Her R is just a dodge and small gap closer and DOES NOT give her any real mobility. Also her ult having ZERO damage makes her really reliant on her Q, so it should have a lot of damage. She is a typical burstmage without the typical high damage ult.
: PBE white screen problem
Yeah, this is a mac issue, and not zoe's fault. Only started happening this much after yesterday's (nov. 9) patch. Rioters are looking into into it (particularly Riot Banfhammer). Here's a link to my salty post about this same issue: https://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/bugs/AAF3LkRX-yet-again-games-arent-connecting Good luck, fellow mac users! {{sticker:zombie-nunu-bummed}}
: MAC VERSION HAS THIS STUPID WHITE SCREEN BUG! PBE
Yeah, this is a mac issue, and not zoe's fault. Only started happening this much after yesterday's (nov. 9) patch. Rioters are looking into into it (particularly Riot Banfhammer). Here's a link to my salty post about this same issue: https://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/bugs/AAF3LkRX-yet-again-games-arent-connecting Good luck, fellow mac users! {{sticker:zombie-nunu-bummed}}
: Error message that keeps popping up after champ select. I CAN NEVER GET INTO A GAME NO MORE :(
Yeah, this is a mac issue, and not zoe's fault. Only started happening this much after yesterday's (nov. 9) patch. Rioters are looking into into it (particularly Riot Banfhammer). Here's a link to my salty post about this same issue: https://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/bugs/AAF3LkRX-yet-again-games-arent-connecting Good luck, fellow mac users! {{sticker:zombie-nunu-bummed}}
: Hmm...I'm looking into some metrics for this. How often does this happen for you vs. successfully getting into game?
Uhh, well before it was around 1/3 games, not it's near 1/5. So it happens less, but when it does, it's far more annoying. I'll check in awhile and see if it counted as a loss or not. {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
  Rioter Comments
: RIOT CMON! I want test Zoe!!!!
Yeah it's infuriating. I haven't even gotten the chance to play against her! Every enemy zoe has gone afk, causing their team to remake! This is a complete disaster (not rito's fault tho) {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}}
: Why zoe E is so unreliable?
If it was reliable, one-shotting people with your Q would be WAY easier. I like the ability, and even the trap is useful for zoning and chasing someone.
: I played Zoe jungle and got super flamed because I was “trolling” even though I was just trying her in a different position
: Not a bug, definitely server lag because of all the people.
Yeah, idk why there isnt a login queue?
: Manutention today 11/07/2017
: Zoe!
How are you testing zoe if she's down?
Woaahhh no need to use that word, we don't want to be as bad as he is! .,asgmfngfklfa.df
Soo, zoe will be working later today then? {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
: Jhin need the icon skull ingame...
Yeah, he's missing the "glow" that the other skins have.
: Project: Jhin feedback
I do agree that it could use more particles...
: Zoe portrait looks really bad. Is it a placeholder?
Yeah, they put old concept art there until they figure things out!
: Disabled Boards: General PBE Feedback, Champion and Gameplay Feedback, Site Feedback
Sounds good! (So... ETA on Zoe?) Thanks again for the hard work! (Really tho, we're dyin')
: Zoe MAJOR BUG
Maybe riot could just disable her joke? That way we can play her, without the bug, until the figure it out! SO IMPATIENT, a say, rito? Mah boi? Mah bud?
: If I were to hazard a layman's guess, that was there for debugging so that Riot could quickly drop one of each active and make sure they all worked right in bubble form, and then someone forgot to remove it. Complete speculation.
> [{quoted}](name=wakfi,realm=PBE,application-id=A4D2003433C8FCD715185A7264A9CC6FDFAD7FEF,discussion-id=y4fALTJ2,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2017-11-06T22:47:53.668+0000) > > If I were to hazard a layman's guess, that was there for debugging so that Riot could quickly drop one of each active and make sure they all worked right in bubble form, and then someone forgot to remove it. Complete speculation. Yeah, seems like a legit guess. But you gotta give it to her, this is THE most zoe-like bug possible lol
: ive played for 2 daysw now and my rp didnt refresh
Also know that rp resets around noon (in america), not at midnight.
: Bug with background music in champion select (client side).
yup, same here, except when someone dodges, THE MUSIC KEEPS PLAYING OVER THE QUEUE MUSIC!! Argh
: can we show champ icons in thier lane during champ select
I agree! Because a lot of times you know where someone is going (like 9 times out of ten cait is going bot), so why not just outright show us who we're up against? In worlds, players know who they need to counter, showing that it doesn't give an unfair advantage or anything. WOMP
: Precision not filling it's niche
I think that precision's keystones aren't the issue, in fact, they're my favorite keystones right now. The problem is that all of the secondaries are really, REALLY boring and don't really effect my strategy at all. It's too bad, because tempo is REALLY fun lol.
: A bizarre rengo bug that just happened to me
Yeah... this whole time I thought he had a shield passive or something, like Tahm Kench.
: Not connecting to a game after Champ Select
This is happening to me as well, but it's JUST me. I know this because, about 1 out of ten times this happens, if I restart my computer I can reconnect. I hope a rioter comments on this, because it only happens on the PBE and is slowly happening more often.
: Please make it separate queues. With the way people on PBE have been acting I can only imagine the *spams vulgarity in pregame* "IM *insert role here* OR I RUN IT DOWN" behavior to begin like last time it was set to blind pick only.
Yeah I agree, the bigger issue is toxicity, not people banning new stuff. It's so annoying to deal with calling roles urgh
: Daily RP didn't reset
Same here! And I'm in NA so no time difference for me!
: STORE BACK ONLINE, THERE ARE CHANGES TO RP and BLUE ESSENCE
Hi there! Am I supposed to be able to to by skins? Because when I go to unlock one, the buttons are greyed out like I don't have enough BE of RP. Thanks! (PS, this is only happening with skins)
: ~~AAAAAAND The game is unplayable because the queue screen is greyed out. YIKES we're on that right now. I'll get back to your questions shortly.~~ Ok the queues are back lol, SORRY GUYS WHOOPS. ----------------- ~~We're in the process of reenabling all skins. ~~ OKAY Skins are back!!! Here we go! ----------------- ~~Loot is broken. :\ ~~ ~~We're working on that right now.~~ ~~You'll be able to use your boxes soon.~~ ~~Loot has been fixed.~~ Loot is offline again.
I'm glad I saw this before I made post lol! Honestly, I'm just really thankful I'm on the pbe and hope everything goes smoothly from now on, for your sake!
: I think 4 would be a good idea. Also don't just say honor five because you think that equals good playing, cus I'm honor five and I suck at league (only been playing for 3 months)
BTW I'm not assuming that's what you meant, I'm just reiterating that I sUcK at this gAmE.
: Being honor 3 to join pbe is a bad decision !
I think 4 would be a good idea. Also don't just say honor five because you think that equals good playing, cus I'm honor five and I suck at league (only been playing for 3 months)

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