: Riot, if you dont take me off Low Priority Queue, I can't ever play in PBE
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: If Shen could move the sword somewhat like Orianna moves his ball, would that be better guys ?
Being able to control it basically turns him into Orianna, so no he shouldn't be able too.
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: Is the PBE really more Toxic than the Live server?
Pre season is still pretty new. Riot brought in a bunch of new players. You are going to have to wait until a lot of them get banned unfortunatly.
: Swain W (Nevermove) Nerf PBE 23/11 Context required
Agreed, I posted this in the main forums, but I'll echo it here as well. First of all, he can be countered by other mages, or a good Assassin player that knows when to all in. Lux, Syndra, Annie, Brand, Veigar,basically any mage that has serious burst potential can beat Swain in lane. Swain basically NEEDS to land Nevermore or he won't get a kill, as opposed to all of the champs I mentioned above that have a MUCH easier time landing a snare. If you know how to lane against Swain, you know to dodge the snare, and you also know it has a ridiculous long CD (18 seconds at level 1) and it is his last ability to get leveled up. So basically he has it at level 1 for the majority of the game, he can't afford to level it and miss out on his DoT. Swain needs to snowball in order to be effective late game. All of Swains damage is DoT, which is useless late game when other champs are dealing out 1500 damage a second on crits and spells if Swain is not already snowballed. No sense being able to do 1500 damage, over 6 seconds....most team fights don't even last that long. Only thing Swain has going for him is his sustain, but again if he's not crazy snowballed, new ADC's and masteries (looking at executioners) can just tear him apart. I rarely, if ever see Swain being played, so I have no idea what Riot is thinking with this nerf. If anything I thought Swain would get some buffs because of the lack of mana potions; also for the fact he has a hard time CSing considering he has one of the lowest base damages in the game. You basically have to take AD runes to help with his CSing if you are not the best at doing so. Nerfing Swain because Riot fucked up and came out with some OP masteries like Deathfire is classic Riot though; they just always know what's best. I'll be playing him in the PBE for the next few days and post in PBE, but again....I know Riot won't listen.
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: No, I get the point, talking about ranked/draft pick. What I don't get is why it's so difficult to play in BLIND PICK Normal games, where banning isn't an option. I'm not talking about custom games.
> [{quoted}](name=The Government,realm=PBE,application-id=2EAF660193FA3B668D7234B3AEBB530C5AB7F651,discussion-id=X7EQWqb3,comment-id=00050000000000000000,timestamp=2015-11-15T16:08:30.544+0000) > > No, I get the point, talking about ranked/draft pick. What I don't get is why it's so difficult to play in BLIND PICK Normal games, where banning isn't an option. I'm not talking about custom games. The problem with blind pick is the amount of trolls. You end up with 3 people saying " TOP " and then fighting ensues, and you end up with 2 top, 2 mid and an ADC. Again, this doesn't help enforce any type of meta, or get any feel for how a champ should do in a lane. My last game if you want to check up on WAS a blind pick. What happened? I called top, I got top, but then another person just auto locks at 20 seconds and says top as well. So now it's 2 top, we have no jung and the game just goes downhill from there with constant arguing (I just mute people usually). Riot can't stop toxicity, but at least in draft you have a more civilized picking order (in theory) which generally works as long as the important champs aren't banned, I'm not bitching for the sake of it, just giving Riots idea on how to better the PBE if they actually want positive data in a timely fashion. It's better than people just playing against Illaio once, getting blown up in lane, now they just assume she's completely OP and bans her every game. How is that helpful for you as a player, or Riot as a company.
: Removal or Nerf of Illaoi.
She is basically a melee that can effectively counter melees, which is kinda what we needed to balance top lane against Tryns, Darius or when Yas goes top. She can get picked apart pretty easily by ranged if they just play smart.
: Then play them in customs/norms? If someone doesn't feel like playing against a champ then they're in the right to use League's banning system to ban who they wish. You shouldn't feel obligated or feel the need to test champs in ranked games or norm drafts since the only difference between those and norms/customs is the mode. It should be expected that new champs will be a guaranteed ban for 1). them being 'op' or 'unbalanced,' and 2). people not wanting people who don't know how to play them yet playing them. I agree with you on the fact that majority of people don't play on PBE to test stuff, or they don't test as much as they should/could. That's been established enough times already on the forums. Maybe I'm missing something, but just test champs in norms/customs. {{sticker:zombie-brand-clap}}
> [{quoted}](name=The Government,realm=PBE,application-id=2EAF660193FA3B668D7234B3AEBB530C5AB7F651,discussion-id=X7EQWqb3,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2015-11-14T19:39:26.780+0000) > > Then play them in customs/norms? If someone doesn't feel like playing against a champ then they're in the right to use League's banning system to ban who they wish. You shouldn't feel obligated or feel the need to test champs in ranked games or norm drafts since the only difference between those and norms/customs is the mode. It should be expected that new champs will be a guaranteed ban for 1). them being 'op' or 'unbalanced,' and 2). people not wanting people who don't know how to play them yet playing them. I agree with you on the fact that majority of people don't play on PBE to test stuff, or they don't test as much as they should/could. That's been established enough times already on the forums. Maybe I'm missing something, but just test champs in norms/customs. > > {{sticker:zombie-brand-clap}} Well the other point of the PBE is to test a "live environment". You want to mimic a real game as close as possible, otherwise the PBE WOULD just be custom games for the players to screw around and test. Also I tried to do a custom game with the new champ and the game would never start, just froze. Not sure if that's because it doesn't let you, or if since the champ was new and the PBE was being overloaded that it was just crashing. But yea, hard to really get a feel for a champ when the computer is completely predictable "Oh I have 25% health, going back to base, not gonna try to do an out play". I can go 40-0 with Yasuo in customs, does that mean I know how to play him? Hells no. To me it seems damn OP, but in a real environment I can get my ass kicked by a Ziggs or a Swain mid.....and it immediately changes my thoughts on the champ and how he compares to other competent players.
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: 45% CDR
How are you even in the beta if you don't know this?
: I feel like Rengar and Teemo will get nerfed in upcoming season
With the new Liandry buffs coming, his shrooms are really going to hurt,
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: might be a dumb question...am I supposed to have max RP and IP?
Judging by the fact he didn't even google this, OR read the FAQ makes me shudder. Where is Riot getting these people from?
: Wait.... How do you mean Varus didn't get a buff? You DO know what essence reaver is don't you?
> [{quoted}](name=SonicTheHedgehog,realm=PBE,application-id=2EAF660193FA3B668D7234B3AEBB530C5AB7F651,discussion-id=2Rik7c3K,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2015-11-09T01:02:41.908+0000) > > Wait.... How do you mean Varus didn't get a buff? You DO know what essence reaver is don't you? I kind of see it as a nerf. Sure the CDR is nice, but it loses the life steal which would of stacked really nice with the new crit mastery.
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: PBE is actually the most toxic environment I've played in League yet....
I guess perhaps their should be different rooms within the PBE. To me....the PBE is about mimicking a live environment as much as possible to see if issues happen, or if new items are too strong, or buggy. You don't have what I would consider a live environment if people are going Zed AP, Talon Supp, and Anivia Jung. These are not things you are going to see in ranked games, so what exactly are you testing? You are just wasting peoples time that are attempting new builds and items on characters that are meta picks. And I know everyone wants to "break the meta" but honestly lets face it, Riot is stream lining the meta. Every new champ is designed with a lane and purpose in mind. If someone goes Vel Koz jung.....I have honestly nothing to offer them aside from that's just not gonna work, and you have now screwed my game because I can now not expect a good gank, which prohibits me from understanding how strong my champ can get with a certain build because I suddenly don't have values ( a reliable jung ) I would of had in a regular game. Hope that makes sense....
: PBE is actually the most toxic environment I've played in League yet....
I find it hard to believe. I've played 4 games today....and every.single.game has been some of my most toxic experiences in League. I am thinking of recording some and uploading to Youtube so Riot can see what's really going on in PBE.
: I can get why people want to take games on the PBE seriously, but most of the point of the whole thing is to test and sure many many things are going to go wrong. The point of us being here is to test new things, not to show how cool or good we are. HOWEVER we can show how good we are at finding bugs AMI RIGHT?! :D
> [{quoted}](name=Ping,realm=PBE,application-id=cMKtzQHY,discussion-id=G1VlTxKb,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2015-11-07T02:40:23.568+0000) > > I can get why people want to take games on the PBE seriously, but most of the point of the whole thing is to test and sure many many things are going to go wrong. > > The point of us being here is to test new things, not to show how cool or good we are. HOWEVER we can show how good we are at finding bugs AMI RIGHT?! :D While that is OK...it doesn't mean you need to go Zed supp, Trundle ADC, or Anivia Jung. Some things you should be able to come to a conclusion with, without having to try. I am seeing some of the dumbest builds and lane picks "just cause...".
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: > [{quoted}](name=Arch Mage Magnus,realm=PBE,application-id=2EAF660193FA3B668D7234B3AEBB530C5AB7F651,discussion-id=13I9PmOe,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2015-11-06T23:02:46.710+0000) > > Vlad has reasonable counters though. Gnar, Darius, Garen, and the best Swain. They are already played a lot top lane, so it's not really like Vlad has it easy. Hexdrinker is already a very good item to counter top mages with AD, but to throw this in for another 800gp makes it suicide to ever use any of these champs again. Riot got rid of Deathfire for this exact same reason, it was just a very powerful item on certain classes that gave no counter play. This item basically negates Vlads entire kit, and makes it harder for any other self heal characters, including Swain. By that logic, QSS should be removed because it cancels Malzahar's entire kit. Chill. The return of it was necessary. Its whether it is properly balanced that is to be put into question.
> [{quoted}](name=ChaddyFantome,realm=PBE,application-id=2EAF660193FA3B668D7234B3AEBB530C5AB7F651,discussion-id=13I9PmOe,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2015-11-07T07:02:05.419+0000) > > By that logic, QSS should be removed because it cancels Malzahar's entire kit. > Chill. The return of it was necessary. Its whether it is properly balanced that is to be put into question. QSS is an active; It's not a constant, and it is honestly NEEDED as 90% of the champ base have a stun that makes death imminent. I don't need Malzs ult to guarantee me a kill, but when I use health as my resource, and rely on getting it back by doing damage....makes it really shitty to do damage to myself, to do damage, to get nothing in return.
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: How are PBE testers picked? Any skill required?
If you read my post you'd see it was a 4 on 5. It was back and fourth because of this, not like we could just landslide the win when they always have at least someone on the otherside of the map pushing.
: It's supposed to counter them though. Vlad is a pretty hard enemy laner if you don't get jungle assistance, at least for toplane. The grievous wound makes it easier for champs with really high CDs/mana costs on their abilities to actually fight him in lane. Although strong early champs like Renekton can shit all over him with it so I see your complaints as reasonable.
> [{quoted}](name=Veggie Burger,realm=PBE,application-id=2EAF660193FA3B668D7234B3AEBB530C5AB7F651,discussion-id=13I9PmOe,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2015-11-06T22:46:49.904+0000) > > It's supposed to counter them though. Vlad is a pretty hard enemy laner if you don't get jungle assistance, at least for toplane. The grievous wound makes it easier for champs with really high CDs/mana costs on their abilities to actually fight him in lane. Although strong early champs like Renekton can shit all over him with it so I see your complaints as reasonable. Vlad has reasonable counters though. Gnar, Darius, Garen, and the best Swain. They are already played a lot top lane, so it's not really like Vlad has it easy. Hexdrinker is already a very good item to counter top mages with AD, but to throw this in for another 800gp makes it suicide to ever use any of these champs again. Riot got rid of Deathfire for this exact same reason, it was just a very powerful item on certain classes that gave no counter play. This item basically negates Vlads entire kit, and makes it harder for any other self heal characters, including Swain.
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: That is actually a very bad idea. League of Legends aren't meant for ranked (or Hi Ranked) players only. Remember that ALL of us were new to the game at some point and we made a lot of mistakes when we started. PBE also exists for us to give RIOT our opinion about what will be the best experience for ALL players around the world, good or not so good. Did you stop to think that maybe the other team wasn't interested in winning and just wanted to test something within the game? Or maybe they decided to throw the game off to give you the win because you endured so much during those 57 minutes? I've done it. Why can't others? And don't forget that to be invited to play in PBE, Riot needs to know you've been in the game long enough and you helped enough players to qualify. This is RIOT's PBE FAQ: "Since our goal is to get the best possible feedback to improve the game, we're looking for players who are highly engaged with League and have proven to be a positive influence in the community. We're also looking for people who give excellent feedback. Visit the PBE page to apply or check the status of your application. Sometimes we look for specific types of players, depending on what we're testing in a given cycle. For instance, if we're about to release a new tanky support champion, we might invite a batch of experienced Leona and Taric players to help us out." Just check this link please. -> [LOL PBE FAQ](http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/page/pbe-faq)
> [{quoted}](name=AlexT,realm=PBE,application-id=cMKtzQHY,discussion-id=QIep2t9A,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2015-11-06T21:28:06.472+0000) > > That is actually a very bad idea. League of Legends aren't meant for ranked (or Hi Ranked) players only. Remember that ALL of us were new to the game at some point and we made a lot of mistakes when we started. > PBE also exists for us to give RIOT our opinion about what will be the best experience for ALL players around the world, good or not so good. > > Did you stop to think that maybe the other team wasn't interested in winning and just wanted to test something within the game? > Or maybe they decided to throw the game off to give you the win because you endured so much during those 57 minutes? I've done it. Why can't others? > > And don't forget that to be invited to play in PBE, Riot needs to know you've been in the game long enough and you helped enough players to qualify. > This is RIOT's PBE FAQ: > "Since our goal is to get the best possible feedback to improve the game, we're looking for players who are highly engaged with League and have proven to be a positive influence in the community. We're also looking for people who give excellent feedback. Visit the PBE page to apply or check the status of your application. > > Sometimes we look for specific types of players, depending on what we're testing in a given cycle. For instance, if we're about to release a new tanky support champion, we might invite a batch of experienced Leona and Taric players to help us out." > > Just check this link please. -> [LOL PBE FAQ](http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/page/pbe-faq) No they wanted to win. Not only did they lose, but they were EXTREMELY toxic. Yelling at each other and us. I don't think anyone on our team even responded to anything, we just chatting among ourselves while they just kept throwing insults. Again....should not be allowed in PBE.
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: Graves is a little bit op
The fact that he can jungle without an issue actually raises some concerns. No ADC should have the sustain to be able to jungle effectively, but Graves can do it quite well. Ton down his damage, or take away some of his armour stacking.
: I think AD Kassadin might be a thing
I could see this working. Like you said, would take a lot of time to get going though.
: The New Matchmaking Queue
I'd have to agree. I am here to beta test the changes, but it takes roughly 30 mins with at least 5 dodges in a row to get a game going here. I actually watched a full episode of a T.V show on netflix before I was able to get a game finally going.
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: November 3rd Update?
The update from what I understand is a team builder for rank, and a different type of interactive champ select.
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