: Morgana & her skins
I love that lower wing placement change it makes it not look like as much of a tail, and more like bound wings.
: other than possible clarity issues (like pugmaw), dont think this skin needs much change as much as the cat ones but I really dont know how to feel about his trident, it has squeaky dog toys sounds but doesnt look like one at all. would be neat if it was 3 squeaky bone toys tied on a stick or just a giant one also prestige should get new sounds instead of the same squeaky ones since its crystals and a piece of meat now
Maybe having a price tag attached to the trident could also play into the fantasy of being a dog toy
: [CLOSED] PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Corgi Corki!
This skin is so cute, love everything about it. You can tell a lot of work went into it.
: They Say They Won't Add Particles to Sinful Succulence or Blade Mistress.
Thank you, I completely agree. These double standards need to stop.
: That red hair was accidental lmao. That was the only part I couldn’t really match the splash so I left it that way. I really don’t know how to fix it jsjdj. And yes! The old skin looked better with those branch like wings that had leaves and with her old big dress that had thorns all over it. But this new one doesn’t look like the old one at all. It look too dragon-y. And like I said, the splash art’s colors are different for some reason. When I first saw the splash I thought they changed the theme and colors. But the in-game version has the old ones. And they look odd on her new model. If not the skin, the splash art needs a change.
Yeah, I'm not quite sure why it completely changed. These skins just don't feel like Morgana.
: while the new one looks cleaner, the old one had the grim reaper parts way bigger http://lol-wallpapers.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Ghost-Bride-Morgana-1-Concept-by-Zeronis-League-of-Legends-Artwork-Wallpaper-lol.jpg and now even though they still show in the new splashart, in game its so small it might as well not exist
Completely agree, the old Ghost Bride was nicer aside from the model. They need to increase the size of the grim reaper wings
: Why riot decreased range of Morgana ULT
Wow.... I don't recall seeing this nerf
: Matching in-game models to their splash arts (with samples)
I think they could always just push it off. I hate the 2 week limit, because that's the reason they released the hideous Sweetheart Rakan Clown skin. If they want cash, we want quality.
: Yeh, Exiled should have recolored red VFX Totally agree with your suggestions on Sinful Succulence and with the new VFX they would instantly make me want to buy the skin My critique on Ghost Bride would be to have this instead https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b67041548f0942345298d2aaf507e146810d58dbe490442b28b18efedbbc8ab5.png I think Blackthorn could use some leafier wings and a rootier dress and her 'tail' should be tweaked as well. Many features on the old one were not brought over like the death animation, the falling leaf particles on her wings and spells. These are pretty much a must especially when the original had them. Blade Mistress is supposed to be space/tech themed now but I'm not feeling any of it. Same situation as Sinful Succulence where they should incorporate a bit more detail to improve the skin. An idea would be have her pool have some circuitry things like Cyberpop Zoe's E on the ground and it matches her 'Sombra (the Overwatch character) hair' Lunar Wraith is pretty good already with the effects, but some model changes would make it even better, her headpiece is way less detailed now, its nice that its less clunky but I think they took away too much, at least bring back the hanging bits. Also the snake head scarf thing could be a bit more detailed like in the splash art. The dress looks too vibrant, there should be less red and more purple, a gradient effect like in the splashart would be nice and most important of all... GREEN HANDS!!! Caitlyn has blue ones and on the old one in game she had green, but it was never shown in the splash art, so hopefully they can add that in to reflect that and I dont see any reason to have them removed as it adds to the spectral/eerie theme really well. Bewitching is nice but I'm sad her dress doesnt look as grand as it was and her hair is now very red and looks more like Miss Fortune with the hat, please change it back to pink hair as its whats in the splash. I think they've ruined Victorious with the new purple wings and the back bit of her dress, its what making the Graves one look really bad and make me never want to use it. They should change it back to blue and gold with minor silver accents
Agreed on the Blackthorn, Ghost Bride, Lunar Wraith, Bewitching and Victorious. The Victorious Graves analogy is 100% accurate.
: I totally understand why you like the old color, so did I until the rework. You see, I am not really proposing a different color out of nowhere. I just say that the colors in the splash art and in-game are totally different. One of them must be tweaked to match the other and I would prefer changing the in-game one. The splash art looks really good. Edit: I just edited the skin to (somewhat :p) match the splash art. I mean, of course it’s your opinion but don’t you think it looks better that way.
I think your edit with matching the splash art more looks absolutely gorgeous, but I do want it to look like the old skin with the same color scheme. I think your edit would be a fabulous chroma as the pink + her red hair really makes the skin pop.
: The hair curl and veil are definite improvements. Still needs more work to get it back to being as good as the original though. The roses on her head look too big and the dark violent blue color burns my eyes. The roses should go back to being light blue. Her old dark blue hair looked better than the green hair hue in the new version. Her face looks emotionless now, instead of sad. I preferred the big wings that looked like tombstones. And her super long elf ears. The poofiness of her original dress looked better, and the tatters were more visible. You've improved the new models corset a lot but i would tweak it a bit more to get the cut and pattern of the original, which had a really elegant look.
I agree with everything you've said, although I don't think the elf ears will be coming back - but everything else seems spot on and doable. The live skin is currently the superior one aside from the model.
: or give her ult this: - When no movement during ult, after .25 second getting a spell shield - When moving during ult, after .25 second getting a speed buff This way the ult can be used in different play style/strategies
I think having her get a spell shield during ult would be really beneficial to her.
: Morgana Gameplay Feedback
Her E size needs to be increased to what it used to be, it's really tiny and can have poor readability along with not fitting the thematic. It's basically a helmet and her lower body is left exposed.
: Ghostbride Morgana Adjustments colours and veil/wing/tail
So much better than the wings and tail. I just wish the reaper wings were as large as they were before
: [FEEDBACK] Bewitched Morgana's Bottom Wings (And more details)
The wings and hair look much better, I just wish they could cut the bottom wings off.
: Ghost Bride's Bounded Wings Should Be Turned Into A Train
Yeah I wrote about this idea in my post down below and I think it would really save the skin. The tail just ruins the skin for me.
Rioter Comments
: Morgana & Kayle Splasharts design
Agreed, Ghost Bride and Lunar Wraith Morgana don't look as nice as before
: @Riot, Please, we want VFX exclusive for Exiled Morgana/Sinful Succelence!
100% agree, Morgana seems to have been shafted with her skins majorly.
: Morgana VU looks AMAZING, BUT this would be the cherry on top
I completely agree, they made Shadow Eve and Infernal Akali look amazing and they're 520RP skins, come on Riot.
: Not only her E, the dress would just have falling leaves on its own as well and now it has nothing! Bewitching morgana, 975 Rp, kept the bats.
Bewitching Morgana also lost the bats when she just walks around, so that needs to be added alongside the falling leaves
: Could you guys animate her mouth during her ultimate? When you ult as Morgana there's an audio that sounds like shes yelling, gasping, or SOMETHING but her mouth isn't moving at all. Her Blackthorn skin is also a huge let down.. I feel like the colors need to be more brim and fire opposed to pinkish, also feels kinda lame that for Exiled Morgana her AA animations match her skins color scheme but her ability graphic's are the same as default Morgana. Morgana has a ton of skins but only 1 or 2 Epic's not considering Victorious, therefor I feel the Epic skins should definitely be worked on to the best of the skin teams ability.. also because you were "primarily focusing on Morgana visually", she deserves to look the best she can if she's barely getting any kit changes. Just my input! She definitely looks better than she used to, so thank you for that and I hope you take some of this feedback into consideration. **EDIT: Victorious Morgana is disgusting.. please, if anything make the skills more shiny. Her old W looked so much better than what it is now on this skin. **
I think they honestly destroyed every single Morgana skin minus Sinful and Blade Mistress, the wings look like a furry wolf tail and the colors are hideous. The models look nice, but even some of the VFX needs changing color-wise, and some are missing VFX (bats on Bewitching). Bewitching's hair is hideous too.
: Regarding Lunar Wraith Morgana, I actually think that the color of her wings, which I guess is supposed to be jade, should be closer to, for example, the color of Warring Wingdoms Azir´s towers, that green is kind of ugly in my opinion. (I would post a comparisson but I don´t know hot to post images)
: I'm with u xD That mouth is so soooo creeppy{{sticker:sg-lulu}} but not even the half the bride's one, look her back, is just terrifying xD (its also true, that on that skins looks acceptable)
yeah on Ghost Bride it fits, but on most of the others it looks ridiculous
: I feel lunars evolution after using ultimate isnt as noticeable, so to say, as its solar eclipse counterpart
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Gun Goddess Miss Fortune!
I think adding some small accessories would be benficial to the skin. Those that were in the concept art were fantastic and helped create a contrast between the different MF skins (like Ele Lux/Dj Sona). If you were to add a hat to one, a halo to another, the eye patch, etc then the skin would be really nice. It would actually feel like somewhat different forms, rather than chromas.
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Gun Goddess Miss Fortune!
Hey look, another skin that won't be fixed to what the customers demand just like Sweetheart Rakan, due to a March 22nd deadline. Can't wait to not buy this skin and its multiple chromas!
: Skin Collections Tab: Skin Descriptions Feature Feedback
I love this idea! I'm so glad, and a lot of the lore I completely missed out on. I didn't recognize the whole Program/Project connection until recently, but that universe is still confusing to me (the Resistance, PROJECT, and Program).
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Sweetheart Xayah!
The hair bun could be cute, but I'm not sure if that would be possible right now. I do however, really appreciate the changes to the skin and think that they're going in the right direction as opposed to the changes to Rakan. The golden skirt rim, golden rim on the arm sleeves, and the shoulder piece + added cape heart looks nice. I'm a little conflicted on the crimson heart on her chest region, as I'm not sure if this is better than before; it does display the heart design though so I'm not going to say that it looks bad. Her shoulder piece heart looks a little odd to me though, I'm not sure if it's meant to be a jewel. If so, it should match the other jewelry heart pieces on her tiara, etc. Still not quite sure on it though, I like the design (although the strap looks a bit off). Maybe others can chime in on this.
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Lunar Revel Chromas!
I love the Lux chromas but I'm wondering why the pink one has a bare chest but the others don't. Shouldn't be playing favorites here! Aside from that, my only complaint aside from the Peridot dogs being red, is that the two balls on each hip in the red and purple chromas should be a different color. In game it looks really bad that they're the same color as the loops; they should be crimson/purple respectively.
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Sweetheart Rakan!
Please, please, PLEASE use this as an inspiration, as it adequately captures Rakan's sexy, charming, Prince-like qualities and enhances them. The current new edit still leaves much to be desired; only the edited heart on his belt is a slight upgrade. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DTNDNbkWAAAVWYC.jpg:large
: Being completely honest - the changes did nothing good. He honestly looks worse.. Pink in the hair is just not prince-like. At least make it blonde with a white streak instead or something. It doesn't really feel like the feedback of the players is really being heard. If it is a matter of not having enough time I honestly think its better to postpone the skins than to release something no one are completely satiesfied with or even 50% satiesfied with. The sleves surely could be changed if postponing the skin and his colours as well. I mean just look at him - if you saw him on the street would you think "wow he's charming" or "wow look at that clown?". And please please please either delete the crown or make it a crown a man would wear - just google "prince crown" Something positive tho is the changes of the hearts on his clothes - they do look better.
> [{quoted}](name=Carony,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=sZhXl3Zr,comment-id=0049,timestamp=2018-01-12T20:24:24.270+0000) > > Being completely honest - the changes did nothing good. He honestly looks worse.. Pink in the hair is just not prince-like. At least make it blonde with a white streak instead or something. It doesn't really feel like the feedback of the players is really being heard. If it is a matter of not having enough time I honestly think its better to postpone the skins than to release something no one are completely satiesfied with or even 50% satiesfied with. The sleves surely could be changed if postponing the skin and his colours as well. I mean just look at him - if you saw him on the street would you think "wow he's charming" or "wow look at that clown?". And please please please either delete the crown or make it a crown a man would wear - just google "prince crown" > Something positive tho is the changes of the hearts on his clothes - they do look better. Agreed!
: This is kinda small, but when I was playing him, I was thinking the whole game "What is wrong with his face?" and halfway across realised that his eyebrows are almost black while his hair is white. {{sticker:sg-janna}} Also someone made this edit to the skin, I'll share it too in case some people missed it form previous comments: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DTNDNbkWAAAVWYC.jpg:large It's pretty sweet, and has some nice ideas.
> [{quoted}](name=Garmadon,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=sZhXl3Zr,comment-id=0046,timestamp=2018-01-12T17:20:52.368+0000) > > This is kinda small, but when I was playing him, I was thinking the whole game "What is wrong with his face?" and halfway across realised that his eyebrows are almost black while his hair is white. > {{sticker:sg-janna}} > Also someone made this edit to the skin, I'll share it too in case some people missed it form previous comments: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DTNDNbkWAAAVWYC.jpg:large > It's pretty sweet, and has some nice ideas. omg YES. This is how I envision him; and he looks fantastic. This is the Rakan skin that I would instantly buy, he's charming looking but he still retains the same colors. He actually looks the Prince/King he deserves to be. The highlights look fantastic, and that golden choker is iconic. I especially love the way the heart colors on his chest blend together, rather than looking like cheap plastic. I hope they take inspiration from this edit, because I would instantly buy this skin. {{sticker:sg-lux}}
: If I'm being honest, it's because a lot of content isn't ready patches in advance, and in a lot of cases - like Lunar Revel - skins need to be shipped by x patch. Throwing more people at a project isn't always the right solution. Keep in mind that if we make x skin, then need to redo and animation, add x, remodel something, we add up to two weeks of dev, which then takes away from another skin that could be in the works. It's a difficult space for sure. In addition, we need to make sure feedback aligns with our goals/art style/gameplay, so some feedback isn't addressed on those principles alone, regardless of effort/work needed. I will say that regardless of changes made, feedback is still an extremely valuable tool for us as a team, and a company as a whole, tbh.
> [{quoted}](name=Riot KateyKhaos,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=sZhXl3Zr,comment-id=001e000000000000,timestamp=2018-01-12T17:00:05.738+0000) > > If I'm being honest, it's because a lot of content isn't ready patches in advance, and in a lot of cases - like Lunar Revel - skins need to be shipped by x patch. > > Throwing more people at a project isn't always the right solution. Keep in mind that if we make x skin, then need to redo and animation, add x, remodel something, we add up to two weeks of dev, which then takes away from another skin that could be in the works. It's a difficult space for sure. In addition, we need to make sure feedback aligns with our goals/art style/gameplay, so some feedback isn't addressed on those principles alone, regardless of effort/work needed. I will say that regardless of changes made, feedback is still an extremely valuable tool for us as a team, and a company as a whole, tbh. I appreciate you responding to my comment, and that makes a lot of sense in regard to a skin taking an extra two weeks of time for development when an animation or remodel is required. I also completely agree that feedback is valuable to a company. The only other thing I could say is that it could potentially be beneficial to do what the team is doing with the Illaoi skin, and allowing people to see the beginning concept so that there is more time for feedback. It may be a long time before Riot gets to that point, if they do. But it would be much more beneficial in the long run to perhaps hold back on Lux, Annie or Ahri's 10th skin skin; and instead focus on making skins such as this the best that they possibly can be with less of a need for constant fixes, before moving on to the next skin. Of course, Riot is a company and continuously producing skins is a form of profit, so I understand why what I'm suggesting is probably too much. Again, thank you for the response, and all that you do at Riot Games to provide a more immersive gaming experience for everyone. Edit: Also, I understand that it may ruin the "surprise" of new skins with the Illaoi method, but there's still the finished product that shocks/amazes people. After all, these skins are products of Riot and reflect on the design team's ambition to produce the utmost high-quality content. Taking a little longer to perfect a skin to increase the quality should be Riot's number one goal. {{sticker:katarina-love}}
: You really should reconsider the goal of the skin then, because people are not liking the fluffy pieces or the route the skin took as a whole
Completely 100% agree. Puffy shoulder pieces give off Princess Cinderella vibes, but the color scheme and his overall look make him look like a Jester/Drag Queen. It's not Prince Charming, it's Prince Clowny. A lot of disney princes have a golden design with tassels on their shoulders, such as this example of Prince Charming: https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/disney/images/a/ad/Charming.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/221?cb=20120718062233 This is what a Prince should look like, majestic and handsome which is the embodiment of Rakan. Not the fool. Sorry if this comes off harsh, but I just really believe that Xayah and Rakan fit this skin line so perfectly that it would be an injustice to his character if this wasn't fixed. His particles are fantastic, and I commend the team of doing a wonderful job with those. However, I do believe that there should be some sort of romantic music, bells chiming or petals falling similar to Lucian's recall in the combined Xayah+Rakan recall animation. If there was a way to distinguish his hair from his clothes, and blending the colors of his clothes better I would instantly buy this skin. I really am interested in buying these skins, especially since I was not a fan of Xayah's release skin. I would draw upon Star Guardian Ezreal for inspiration with this skin, as he looks like more of a Prince than Rakan does.
: We did try a few shades, including pinks! :) Modifying a recall that drastically isn't something that we're able to do this late in the development cycle, in terms of animation. VFX and SFX are something we could talk about, though!
I don't understand why this is such a frequent occurrence. The skins come on PBE for testing, and feedback. It's constantly an issue that there isn't enough time to fix things so late in the development cycle, so why aren't the skins put on PBE much sooner? It's basically like you guys have just been saying, "Oh, it's too late. This skin may look underwhelming, but we're going to ship it anyway!" I suppose it's not under your control, but it's a common trend I've been seeing when I check these feedback threads.
: [CLOSED] PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Mecha Rengar!
I love this skin so much, even if I don't play Rengar. I love the brown base color, it's just really appealing. It gives me a bronze vibe and I just really like it. The particles look really good, although I'd say that the snare could use some more work. His passive looks really good, and his SFX all sound on point and satisfying. The recall is fantastic, and this skin is overall so much better quality. This patch has really high quality skins that are definitely worth the price tag.

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