: > [{quoted}](name=Gned,realm=PBE,application-id=cMKtzQHY,discussion-id=qodQhZmQ,comment-id=0022,timestamp=2015-10-31T08:12:03.662+0000) > > I have to say that I am really disappointing in this sivir skin. It is heartbreaking as someone who is a huge fan of playing sivir, as I had high hopes for this skin, To be blunt, it looks lazily done, and the excuse of "Clarity" for not being able to add or change the particles is just invalid. The colors on the skin itself seem too dull, the use of purple is just too much when compared to the other victorious skins, the helmet is just so low on her head that i looks plain out derpy, her cheeks look like shes a squirrel trying to hoard nuts in them before winter comes, and all her effects look so bland. Her Ricochet looks almost invisible, if not the same as most of her other skins, her Q is just boring to look at, her "new" spell shield looks the exact same as her old one with just some gold ring sloppily floating around it. I agree with one of the other posters here in that This is what sivir and her spells SHOULD look like for it being a skin AWARDED for good and skillful play. > > http://imgur.com/tVieiky > > https://imgur.com/a/6BjeL > (first image only in this link) > > > > > As is, the skin looks like it would be 750 in the shop. I feel as though it cold have so much potential is it were to be touched upon, and I really hope it will be. It would look awesome like this :3
It really saddens me that, with this PBE cycle coming to a close it doesn't seem like riot (and I really hope im wrong riot, please please make me wrong) is actually going to use the feedback the community has given to improve upon the skin when its so obviously in need of improvements. To put it bluntly, as it is right now, its just bad, and it makes the feeling worse that for the amount of work so many players have put into league to be able to get to a rank where they can attain this skin, its quality is poor. The head could use work done on it and so can the helmet, the inner silver part of the blade (although this is just a personal dislike so it can be ignored) just seems too thick, Purple is overused in this skin and overwhelms its scheme when compared to the other victorious skins, albeit jarvans, whos color scheme were put together way better than this. The spell effects are just bad. They are just plain bad with what minimal ones were put in for the sake of "Clarity" when thats so obviously false, seeing as riot has had no problems changing other spells who share a function with sivirs. Take morganas black shield, Individual animations for Ghost bride, original, VICTORIOUS, and blackthorn. Sivirs spell shield should b changed to something more noticeable and befitting of a victorious skin, not just some gold ring around it thats barely noticeable. I find the argument of clarity in one of the earlier comments concerning her ultimate particles to be flawed, as Snowstorm sivir has a unique animation to her ultimate in the form of a blue win and snowflake particles. I do agree with that comment in that any form of particles added outside the norm that would be noticeable enough would be a worthy change. The W animation just seems dull, as well as if your not actually looking at it, the same as most of her other skins. Her ult seems as though it remains the same, and as for her recall, to be frank, its just bland, boring, uninteresting, and underwhelming. Now, I can go on and on about this skin, because honestly I was really passionate about it even before I saw what it looked like, I had high hopes for this skin, but now thats its nearing its release with no work done to improve it, and no word from any riot member (besides that first comment) in this thread at all, im disappointed. And I know many others in the community are. Many of us worked hard this season for the victorious skin, but now it just feels like a waste if what we get is an unfinished product. To any riot members who may read this, Please, just take the time out of your day to respond with your take on all of this, and what you think. Give us some insight to the actions you took in the production of this skin and why it remains the same. Dont be like blizzard and ignore your community.
: Yo DwarvenGiant! Unfortunately for clarity reasons adding a particle overlay during her ult isn't an option since the confusion between Bard ult would be a real concern. For context we generally try and keep things very clear on champions that have minimal particles, for Sivir her biggest and most common particles are her auto attacks and her (Q) so we focused our time there. That being said I'll be sure to send your feedback to the skins team to see what's possible.
Please have a look at my chain of comments in this thread if and when you have the time. I have left loads of feedback, and have garnered the attention of a few others who seem to agree.
: Graves Gameplay Update Feedback
So I know that graves's new whole 2 Shot reload thing is to match up with him using a shotgun and all, and that's cool, it makes him really unique. But why only 2 shots? His shotgun in game, splash, and cinematic has about (if not more) than 6 cylinders. Shouldn't he have 6 Shots at a time, and THEN reload? or if he consumes 2 ammo per shot since it has 2 barrels, 3 rounds right off the bat? I dunno, it would just seem more fitting with him having his own specially made shotgun in the lore if his active ammo count matched up to what his gun can actually hold at one time. Hoping you see this and can give some insight on it CertainlyT
: This victorious skin looks more in line with Victorious Jarvan. There's a lot of clashing colours, too many angles on the skin's tone are clashing with each other. The purple is a shade that is usually associated with Royalty, but it's incredibly misplaced with the Silver tones and gold accents the skin has. The gold itself is very dull, and the silver is very underwhelming as well. Sivir's weapon looks more like a circle of bones glued together instead of an actual boomerang disc blade weapon that's she's so iconic in this game for. I'm sure there will be changes to it, I really, really hope they change the shape, at-least the edge and take it away from the dinosaur spine it looks like now into an actual metal/alloy blade that the rest of the skin tries to show with the armor. There's too much noise and not enough transition in the themes. I get that the skins are supposed to be about having something come out of the countless battles you do, and I guess in that vein the maddening fights the skins' theme seems to portray is good, but from an aesthetic point of view, which is all that this skin is for anyway, it is very under developed and seems to missing some artistic direction. A canvas that just has silver, gold, and purple thrown on to it where it fits, that's what I looks like right now, to me anyway. Again, these opinions are what I think the skin looks like right now. Hopefully, they'll be plenty of updates and changes to bring this skin in line with the Victorious skins. I doubt Riot would like to take 4 steps back, instead of a step forward, in terms of artistic development of skins of this nature. Aside from that, Looking forward to more!
I agree with most if not everything you've listed here, and thank you, for you have explained it far better than I have in my long winded string of comments.
: Also, the recall itself seems far too lackluster for what the skin is when compared to victorious morgana. All in all, I feel as though the skin leaves alot to b desired, it has alot of potential for what it could be if worked upon, but I have my doubts. I would really like to be proven wrong here, please. Im sure everyone at riot headquarters must be busy what with finals just being over and preseason coming up, but I would really appreciate it if a riot member could comment here on their thoughts on the skin, and if it would be possible at all to bring it to what it could be. Id understand if that isn't a possibility seeing as this is just one skin being made in a time where game changing things are coming to the PBE, but again, as someone who genuinely likes playing sivir, and had high hopes for that skin, I personally want to see this skin be the best i could be.
Also, I guess while im at it replying to my own comments and most likely looking like a fool, Ill say what i DO like about the skin. For one, I really like the laurel design on the helmet as well ad the blade. I do like how sivir is fully clothed in armor, it emphasizes her tittle, The Battle Mistress. I do like the shade of purple used (although I do agree with those who say that it should be reduced as that is ALOT of purple, or maybe even change the color to that the color used in the other skins, then move the purple to somewhere else). I REALLY like the blade design, although the silver ring behind the laurel design seems a bit thick, its a really unique change to what we've seen in all her other skins.
: Anything would be good for the spellshield. I feel the clarity excuse that would most likely be used for not changing the spellshield effect is just too far fetched, as morganas black shield comes in multiple colors depending on the skin, and even her victorious skin got one with a unique effect. The same should apply to sivir.
Also, the recall itself seems far too lackluster for what the skin is when compared to victorious morgana. All in all, I feel as though the skin leaves alot to b desired, it has alot of potential for what it could be if worked upon, but I have my doubts. I would really like to be proven wrong here, please. Im sure everyone at riot headquarters must be busy what with finals just being over and preseason coming up, but I would really appreciate it if a riot member could comment here on their thoughts on the skin, and if it would be possible at all to bring it to what it could be. Id understand if that isn't a possibility seeing as this is just one skin being made in a time where game changing things are coming to the PBE, but again, as someone who genuinely likes playing sivir, and had high hopes for that skin, I personally want to see this skin be the best i could be.
: Maybe not that much gold for the spell shield cause it does slightly look like Kayle ult, but other particles yes
Anything would be good for the spellshield. I feel the clarity excuse that would most likely be used for not changing the spellshield effect is just too far fetched, as morganas black shield comes in multiple colors depending on the skin, and even her victorious skin got one with a unique effect. The same should apply to sivir.
Rioter Comments
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Ranked Rewards - Victorious Sivir!
I have to say that I am really disappointed in this sivir skin. It is heartbreaking as someone who is a huge fan of playing sivir, as I had high hopes for this skin, To be blunt, it looks lazily done, and the excuse of "Clarity" for not being able to add or change the particles is just invalid. The colors on the skin itself seem too dull, the use of purple is just too much when compared to the other victorious skins, the helmet is just so low on her head that i looks plain out derpy, her cheeks look like shes a squirrel trying to hoard nuts in them before winter comes, and all her effects look so bland. Her Ricochet looks almost invisible, if not the same as most of her other skins, her Q is just boring to look at, her "new" spell shield looks the exact same as her old one with just some gold ring sloppily floating around it. I agree with one of the other posters here in that This is what sivir and her spells SHOULD look like for it being a skin AWARDED for good and skillful play. http://imgur.com/tVieiky https://imgur.com/a/6BjeL (first image only in this link) As is, the skin looks like it would be 750 in the shop. I feel as though it cold have so much potential is it were to be touched upon, and I really hope it will be.

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