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: The PBE is not a reward. You may choose to interpret some of it as a reward, or find ways to reward yourself, but the PBE is not a reward. The PBE is a testing environment and **volunteer work.** You are volunteering to play on an unstable server to find bugs and give feedback on new features. The PBE is not a treat for players, the PBE is not the ideal place to play, the PBE exists for testing new content as volunteer work. The return of RP was not solely for players benefit. With a steady income of RP, Riot no longer has to do special pricing in the store, which solves several issues including potential mistakes when shipping content to Live servers, overloading the store when people want to buy content (since they are limited in how much the can reasonably buy now), and testing content which may not be coded to be sold for BE. In your original post, it was addressed the champions with a Visual Update do need their old skins tested. This is absolutely true and this is a point that should be argued, because far too many updated champions don't have their skins re-released to be tested. Anything that is updated or new should be opened up for testing. However, old skins do not need testing. The chances for content that hasn't been changed to be bugged and for that bug to not already exist on Live servers is so incredibly minuscule is that there is no point to stress about it. Since there is such a negligible chance there, it is better to have people focus less on old content they want to play around with and direct it more to new content which does need testing. There is content that needs testing but isn't enabled or available. That is absolutely an issue that needs to be raised and fixed. Old skins aren't part of it. That is something that will generally be much more productive, because Riot does not have a good reason to go out of their way on something that isn't what the PBE is intended for.
Alright, so first, it's volunteer work that players have to reach a certain level of "honor" to get. Arguing this is volunteer work, would be like the Red Cross demanding that all of its volunteers have earned a nobel peace prize. If you have to reach a certain rank of human decency, and then you are allowed to join a different server (which is by this system fairly exclusive), it sure sounds like a reward (congrats, you're not a shitty person, here's a PBE account. And then, your reward for doing something (which mind you most companies hire people to do) that Riot needs done anyways is a Sense of Pride and Accomplishment for letting **them** get **their** content tested without having to actually pay anyone. But this doesn't get into the bigger issue, this server was treated as a reward when we first gained access to it, we were given the ability to purchase skins with a daily grant of RP and they weren't artificially limiting what we could do. The server stopped being treated as a reward when a bug occurred and Riot realized that by screwing us over they could get their testing down without having to pay or reward anyone and began trying to screw us over by removing shit from the store for no reason (you may argue that it was "because it doesn't need testing" but it takes more effort to remove it than to just leave it and keep your players somewhat happy.) Riot is doing their damnedest to limit what we can do on the server and I'm not one to take it lying down. It is true that the return of was motivated by riot not wanting special pricing, I don't disagree with you there. I think though that the greater motivator was the fact that after six months there were still 2+ posts a day asking about RP. Riot was most likely sick and tired of seeing the boards cluttered with complaints and decided to correct it. Lastly, you are correct that Riot doesn't have a good reason to go out of their way to spend time on something the server isn't meant for but there are two major counterpoints, the butchering of the store in the first place (going out of their way to screw over players because "it doesn't need testing anymore (fuck the players)" and Riot Skitteacher.) So first, there was no reason for riot to manually apply the effort to remove skins from the store just because it doesn't need testing. If the server is only for things that needs testing, why doesn't Riot literally remove everything that isn't new each patch? Finally, Riot skitteacher said that they want the server stores to be consistent so either that was a lie or riot are really bad at doing the things they want to, seeing as this was six months ago I'm inclined to believe that Skitteacher was just making excuses since "we don't give a fuck if our players want to have an enjoyable PBE experience as long as they do their jobs as guinea pigs" doesn't have as nice a ring as "We try to keep store content consistent across Live and PBE to mitigate risks." Sidenote: Thank you for giving a well constructed argument for your point, I wish more of the people who disagree with me were more like you. It would make this process more constructive and feel less like a waste of everyone's time.
: thank you brother, keep up the fight
hopefully more people will join the fight since I don't see one person making much of a difference. That said, I have no intentions of stopping anytime soon.
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: PBE is an enviornment to test "new" skins, not old ones that doesnt have any bugs, hence when a champion gets reworked, all their skins are on release
You're right, that's why baker pantheon was absolutely 100% available for testing. If you were to go back to day 1 you'd notice I addressed the fact that baker pantheon, despite needing testing, was not made available. My more recent posts have all been including a link to the day 1 post as I realized it'd be weird to make people go back through the days to get a more in depth assessment of all the problems.
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: Unavailable skins
If you disagree with me, Then please go ahead and explain why you do not believe this is an issue. Because if you're just going to downvote and move on, then you are an asshole who has added nothing constructive to the conversation. I have no problem with people disagreeing with me, go right ahead, but if you're going to do so, then have the dignity to explain why you disagree. Or you know, just let Riot get away with intentionally limiting our options as much as they want so that we can't have any reward for helping riot do **their own** fucking job and keep **their** game functioning.
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: Baker Pantheon does need testing. Just like all other Pantheon skins. Riot just tends to forget to enable the VGU skins ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯
I never said it didn't I used it as an example of skins that **do** need testing but can't get any because they're not available. Also, "sorry we forgot to enable it for testing" will be my favorite excuse if it were to hit live servers bugged. Riot's idiotic policy could easily lead to a skin with game-breaking bugs to appear on live servers and damn near nobody would know in advance. That's complete BS.
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: RP on PBE, it’s back!
One last attempt to get you guys to actually do something for our sake instead of your own interests. So when the RP system first broke, after a few months it became clear you guys were hoping it would blow over and you could just give us whatever you needed tested so you wouldn't need to pay people to do that. This did not happen. As was clear, the forums became flooded with threads complaining about the lack of RP and after around half a year of silence, we got this. A step in the right direction to be sure, but with the way the jinx skin was handled it's once again clear that you don't give a damn about our feedback. So as one final attempt to get you to give PBE players some kind of reward for helping **you** release updates for **your** game without them breaking it, Please just restore the shop so we can buy everything that's on live servers + the stuff from the next patch. I mean for fuck's sake Baker Pantheon can't be tested by people who didn't get it before last july because prior to us getting RP back, everything from May 2016 - feb 2019 was stripped from the shop. If the past year has been any indicator, this comment will probably fade away without getting a response from any rioters or PBE players. I mostly typed this out because I needed to know I made one last attempt to get the store fixed before I stopped trying.
: Mini rework on Kayle >.<
the true damage is being removed because it's impossible to balance. I mean seriously, I have no clue what they were smoking when they decided "herp derp let's give this champ aoe true damage with a strong AP and AD ratio on every auto attack as well as giving her a massive attack speed, this is a good idea" but I'm glad they removed it, who knows maybe she'll actually become strong but balanced instead of either being unfathomably broken or absolutely unplayable.
: Used to be you got your RP reset to 8000RP each day but apparently, in the "RP is back" sticky, they say that too much RP crashes the store. I don't really... buy that. It makes it sound like each RP is a process running on your computer when it should really just be a number in a secure database. 3000RP isn't even enough to grab a set of skins.
the 8000 RP giving system broke because of new security systems the introduced to all the servers to keep people's wallet info safe. If you want to complain about something, make it about a real fucking problem. I for one am glad to get only **1000** RP a day if it means that the store will be fixed so we can actually buy skins that were released between may 2016- feb 2019. Everything since the last wave of super galaxy skins is currently not available in the store but instead people are bitching about not having enough RP instead of the fact that shit is blocked off to us. Because nobody is bringing this up, Riot doesn't give a fuck about us being unable to purchase this stuff.
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: No no no, I'm fine with them having chromas IF they actually changed their vfx. Also, Pyke is not the first legendary to have chromas
> [{quoted}](name=Bird Lad,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=sRkRJQEE,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-07-18T01:40:50.116+0000) > > No no no, I'm fine with them having chromas IF they actually changed their vfx. Also, Pyke is not the first legendary to have chromas What irks me is that when they did the papercraft line, it looked like they were going to start changing vfx to match the chroma colors...and then they just kind of didn't.
: > [{quoted}](name=EternalSerb024,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=3AEB3uHA,comment-id=002f00000000,timestamp=2019-03-22T23:10:53.290+0000) > > they used to do that but now it just seems like a stupid restriction. In addition to that, it creates a massive discrepancy between the PBE and live stores. You asked for a why, I gave the explanation D: They used to do that indeed, and haven't done it with the more recent skins. They just haven't "fixed" it with the older skins is all. It's up to debate whether they'll fix it, considering it's still old content and it still no longer needs any testing. I've learned that Riot should mess with the store as little as possible if we want to prevent the entire thing from going to hell. They could be available is mystery chests and the Hextech system though, so you can try your luck with that.
I did not ask for a why, someone else did, I simply responded with a criticism of the policy. That said, I am unsure on if they'll fix it, if the community demands it often enough (they won't, they're too busy bitching about how "waa waa it's not *enough* RP" D:) Riot might fix it but as is you're probably right about Riot not bothering with it. The only good reason I can think of that Riot might is because it creates an inconsistency between the two stores.
: > [{quoted}](name=pooooooooooom,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=3AEB3uHA,comment-id=002f,timestamp=2019-03-22T22:32:42.667+0000) > > Why most skins is limited I can not buy Riot disabled a lot of older content from store once it no longer needs testing.
they used to do that but now it just seems like a stupid restriction. In addition to that, it creates a massive discrepancy between the PBE and live stores.
: > [{quoted}](name=LL Hari,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=eXgV1yiu,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-03-21T18:24:23.172+0000) > > I think that's better but you know rito. I know that they could've just not gave us RP at all but you know the community, always ungrateful for what they get even when riot does listen to the community.
As someone who was previously extremely vocal in my complaints about the loss of RP and proposed solutions, I have to say I'm sick of people bitching about the RP. We have it now, it's a good amount jesus fucking christ.
: We try to keep store content consistent across Live and PBE to mitigate risks.
As happy as I am with the return of RP I do feel the need to point out that there are some skins that are only available for purchase on live, the cosmic line, the god-king skins, gun goddess MF, etc. Out of curiosity, are you guys planning on fixing this issue and if not, just tell us so we know.
: > [{quoted}](name=Riot skiteacher2,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=3AEB3uHA,comment-id=00270000,timestamp=2019-03-20T21:56:56.591+0000) > > We try to keep store content consistent across Live and PBE to mitigate risks. They also don't need testing anymore.
> [{quoted}](name=Riot skiteacher2,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=3AEB3uHA,comment-id=00270000,timestamp=2019-03-20T21:56:56.591+0000) > > We try to keep store content consistent across Live and PBE to mitigate risks. Which is why the omega squad, pajama guardian, and wave 3 project skins are all available on PBE right? And Gun Goddess Mf. And God Staff Jax. And the cosmic line. And the god king skins. And... Honestly I'm hoping that they get these back to being available. That said, I'm just happy to have RP again.
: >more obtained content not really. daily missions were 50 BE and every item was 1 BE, making 50 items per day. with 3k rp per day you can get 3 or 4 max.
yes, but actually no. It would be 50 items per day...except there were only like 10 available per week.
: RP on PBE, it’s back!
overjoyed with this change, my only issue is that it could lead to increased toxicity from people just grinding out a game a day (which could be solved with the reintroduction of Bot games to the server) and that the skins which were being made unavailable "BeCaUsE cOnTeNt ThAt IsN't NeW sHoUlDn'T bE tEsTeD oN PBE" should be brought back into the store. Many skins such as the omega squad line are currently locked away. Overall though I am very glad that your team has listened to player demands and especially happy that the forums will finally shut up about "BrInG BaCk RP".
: i think this is a good step, but it's kinda shitty because, well, people will play games only for RP and i think everyone knows how toxic PBE can be. maybe, like other people said, get back co-op vs. ai games and maybe also aram? since urf is probably going to the vault again which leaves solo q only. also, i can't do the math right now but with every new patch comes skins+chromas+items+wards, which would be WAY WAY more than 3k rp total (2 epic skins is already 2.7k). i guess people are just gonna RP grind which may be your goal but it just doesn't feel good. my suggestion for this issue would be maybe getting the new stuff for 50% off in the first three days that they are going live, which would reward people that read s@20/forums. don't get me wrong, i really miss RP on PBE, but i think this just sounds very greedy for a beta environment. a few people already have the idea that PBE is only for skins and with this update it would be basically correct. {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
eh it's one game every day for 3 days a week to acquire 9000 RP and get past the old grants system, it's still more obtained content than the BE system.
: OH MY.. Just imagine if they did that for a day for like worlds or something and made it a select few....
*cough cough* prestige blood moon boris *cough cough*
: why you just create missions with rp rewards ??{{champion:157}} {{champion:110}}
no coding infrastructure for that sort of thing and they're lazy to make it.
: Make Kayle's W a target spell
it is targeted, I just tested in practice tool, if you activate without target it targets nearest, if you highlight ally then it hits them
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: > [{quoted}](name=EternalSerb024,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=eavUqFpr,comment-id=000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-13T05:37:39.830+0000) > > yes, I'm aware how the rp system works, if you notice keys are also not actually stored as physical loot objects, which should mean that it's possible to set it up so that when an item is obtained, rather than being stored as that item, it is transferred to increase a certain value. This should mean that putting RP into the loot section for the price of BE then having it increase the value of your RP tracker should be possible. It's also probably not nearly as much effort as literally removing every new skin from PBE once it hits live...along with its chromas...that last action can only be justified as "riot wants you to go to live servers and pay them money" If it was possible, they probably would've done it. They'll do whatever is easiest, low effort and low store traffic (to prevent it from crashing). They even looked into [League Partner/PC Cafe](https://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/client-new-features-feedback/HpAQL7wL-update-on-pbe-rp-and-be-granting?comment=00010000). Historically, Riot has always supported the stance that PBE is only meant to test *new* content. It's not exclusive to the current situation, and this isn't the first time old content isn't available. Some examples are [here](https://imgur.com/a/FfzYMCd) and [here](http://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/general-pbe-feedback/ld7Eik6x-dark-star-thresh-is-unavailable-to-buy-from-the-store?comment=0001). Anyway, I'm not here to convince anyone or argue why Riot hasn't done X or did do Y. I'm just here to inform people with the information that is available. See you on the Rift o/
it's not a matter of if it's possible, it's a matter of if it's difficult or not, Riot never implemented it not because they can't, but because they don't care, Riot has consistently been removing things once they hit live which demonstrates a shift in the mentality of "PBE is for testing new things but we will still pay PBE players with an enjoyable play environment by allowing them to use old skins" to "PBE is for testing new things." Riot is actively removing every new skin and its chromas once it hits live with no given reason other than "PBE is for testing new things." If you look at the Dark Star Thresh situation you gave, the Rioter literally proceeded to put it back up because back then, they cared about what PBE players wanted. Now they have said they will not look into a solution for the RP problem because "PBE is for testing new things." Edit: also for the discord message, I'm sure there is some context that is missing there.
: > [{quoted}](name=EternalSerb024,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=eavUqFpr,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-11T04:19:35.200+0000) > > yeah, those systems don't work, but they can literally just put an item into the PBE store that costs 16000 BE and gives 16000 RP, it's not a new system, just a new item that can be purchased, hell by doing this, they could make it so new stuff no longer costs BE and just make it so we buy new stuff with RP if that's ever had problems...*cough cough* recent blood moon skins *cough cough* hit live servers for 1 BE which wouldn't have been a problem if we had to buy it with RP which we could buy from the loot section for BE. This doesn't cause security issues unless they accidentally update live and give it this like idiots. It's a simple fix that doesn't run into security problems because you no longer have a program editing the RP of every account on the servers. It's not like PBE doesn't get custom store items already, we do every single time new skins are added, we get a version of the skin with no proper name code or icon that costs 1 BE. There is no reason for not undoing the 1 BE costs and implementing an RP purchase mechanic except "fuck you pay me" Blood Moon skins weren't BE on live, some of the loot items were x) The thing is, you don't buy RP in the store. I mean, yeah, you do, but in a *separate tab* in the store. A tab that only handles real money, it's not really connected to the rest of the store. Putting BE as a viable currency in there isn't just a switch. Similarly, bundles in the store are coded in such a way that they can only cost RP, that's why we need to buy all chromas one by one. Riot can't just change that stuff for just PBE, they'll have to recode store for that and then pray those changes don't accidentally go to live servers or anything (like certain loot items). It's not worth it to put that much effort, resources and money into a PBE-only change.
yes, I'm aware how the rp system works, if you notice keys are also not actually stored as physical loot objects, which should mean that it's possible to set it up so that when an item is obtained, rather than being stored as that item, it is transferred to increase a certain value. This should mean that putting RP into the loot section for the price of BE then having it increase the value of your RP tracker should be possible. It's also probably not nearly as much effort as literally removing every new skin from PBE once it hits live...along with its chromas...that last action can only be justified as "riot wants you to go to live servers and pay them money"
: PBE is for testing new skins so we can find bugs before they hit live.
I am very happy about how I can bug test visual effects on champs who get updates for their VFX, I mean look at the riven skins, those need testing, time to buy them...oh look at those kennen VFX, time to buy those skins for testing....look at olaf (oh wait I got those skins when PBE wasn't designed to make people buy things on live servers)...look at those wukong effects, time to buy his skins so I can bug test...
: >I know that RP every 24 hours felt good, and gave access to lots of content in PBE. As we upgraded the security of our systems worldwide, those security upgrades applied to PBE. We can no longer mass grant RP to players. PBE was the only place in the world where mass granting was needed. So, we prioritized security across the world for all players RP balance, over mass granting in PBE. We are creating a workable alternative by making PBE a BE based test focused economy. > > We focus on making new skins that need testing 1 BE. The old skins to not need testing unless a change happens for champion or skin updates. [Riot skiteacher2](https://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/client-new-features-feedback/HpAQL7wL-update-on-pbe-rp-and-be-granting?comment=00020000). > I wish it were that easy, because I want that for players. Having access to all skins was done by mass granting RP to players. Mass granting RP used PBE only tools. Those tools no longer work because we upgraded security of our systems world wide. This is a good thing for live accounts where you pay money for RP and want to ensure your RP is safe. Also [Riot skiteacher2](https://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/client-new-features-feedback/HpAQL7wL-update-on-pbe-rp-and-be-granting?comment=00040000). 99% sure that the store doesn't have settings that will allow you to buy RP through BE. Especially considering aforementioned security measures.
yeah, those systems don't work, but they can literally just put an item into the PBE store that costs 16000 BE and gives 16000 RP, it's not a new system, just a new item that can be purchased, hell by doing this, they could make it so new stuff no longer costs BE and just make it so we buy new stuff with RP if that's ever had problems...*cough cough* recent blood moon skins *cough cough* hit live servers for 1 BE which wouldn't have been a problem if we had to buy it with RP which we could buy from the loot section for BE. This doesn't cause security issues unless they accidentally update live and give it this like idiots. It's a simple fix that doesn't run into security problems because you no longer have a program editing the RP of every account on the servers. It's not like PBE doesn't get custom store items already, we do every single time new skins are added, we get a version of the skin with no proper name code or icon that costs 1 BE. There is no reason for not undoing the 1 BE costs and implementing an RP purchase mechanic except "fuck you pay me"
: All content that needs testing is available for 1 BE. We do not need RP. And in case you didn't know, RP grants weren't disabled, the system broke, and Riot has been unsuccessful in being able to fix it, and this is not the first time an RP grant system has broken. No point for Riot to work on yet another system for RP when we don't need it and they have been consistently problematic in the past.
then why did we ever receive RP? Riot isn't doing this for any reasons other than that they want us to buy skins on live servers. As is now, we are literally doing Riot's job for them with no compensation. Testing new things for bugs is literally what bug testers are for, the only difference is that they get paid for it. The new attitude towards PBE is purely because Riot wants to make us give them money and do their job for free. If RP grants are consistently broken is the reason for not fixing it, then why did they remove older 1 BE skins and chromas from the store? Because riot wants us to give them money. There is of course, a simple solution for rewarding people for doing Riot's job for them that doesn't involve trying to implement a inevitably broken RP grant system...make it possible for people to purchase large amounts of RP for large amounts of BE on PBE (e.g 16000 RP for 16000 BE).
: Going back to some old stuff...
your change is badly worded as it implies *instead of a 2.25 crit multiplier a 1.75 crit multiplier*. However IE makes the normal 2.00 multiplier into a 2.25 multiplier. Your change (as written) would make crits with IE do less damage than crits without IE.
: Yeah, every assassin needs to be invisible from turrets while in range. How many assassins are there with this capability? Energy based champs need to have setbacks, sustain being one of them.
yeah except riot did a riot and after breathing new life into a dead champion by reworking them, they realized the rework was overtuned and killed the champion again *cough cough* poppy *cough cough* galio *cough cough*
: > his shield gets incredible massive on late game By late game buff is reduced to 100% shields and heals.
heal embargo only affects direct healing, shield overload is a permanent 50% reduction to shield scaling for the entire duration of the game
: Update on PBE RP and BE Granting
can we please get access to chests or older skins? there is a vast number of solutions that could keep from overloading the shop but also make pbe players happier and have it feel better to gain access to pbe. I would recommend making either chests or RP available for large amounts of BE (e.g. 10 chests and keys for 2000 BE or 8000 RP for 2000 BE or maybe 8000 RP for 4000 BE)
: As per [this](https://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/client-new-features-feedback/HpAQL7wL-update-on-pbe-rp-and-be-granting?comment=00070000) comment: "PBE is for testing new skins so we can find bugs before they hit live." Also, all content being available for that cheap can be very taxing for the store.
make it so we can buy 8000 rp for 2000 BE boom, players are satisfied, old skins and bugs can be tested, store isn't overtaxed because we can't get too many skins to easily. it solves so many problems without too many issues.
: I wish it were that easy, because I want that for players. Having access to all skins was done by mass granting RP to players. Mass granting RP used PBE only tools. Those tools no longer work because we upgraded security of our systems world wide. This is a good thing for live accounts where you pay money for RP and want to ensure your RP is safe.
Unless you scrapped the old code, would it really be that difficult to just implement the RP grant code that was used prior to the system breaking? Also wouldn't it be possible to disable those security measures on the PBE since you presumably need to individually update each of the servers to implement those security features. Either way though, could you please give us 1-100 blue essence 10 chest sets or 10 premium chest sets? Oh well, I'm mostly glad we finally got a response on this issue.
: Thats a Typical "I play on PBE for RP and having Skins" Go away, if you only want rp for Skins that dont even need to be tested anymore! Every new thing that need to be testes is set to low BE Prizes, and now they got the Champs to 1 BE that every new player Can actually test and play properly If you hate riot then stop fcking playing.
"we are working on a fix" = no not really, we just aren't going to say we gave up because of the amount of backlash there would be {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}}
: Hi there, please see [this](https://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/client-new-features-feedback/dM75EUEY-pbe-and-rp) regarding RP. In addition, [PBE server status](http://status.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/#pbe) also says there are issues. Next time please try to use the search function before making a discussion, as this will avoid clutter on the boards. You get BE the same way as on live: levelling up (champion capsules) and First Win of the Day. Riot doesn't give BE: this is intended. All content that needs testing is available for 1 BE, which means RP is unnecessary at the moment.
fuck off with your copy paste bullshit, he can't get into the game to get BE because he doesn't have champ number ranked requires, he can't get those champs because he needs BE he can't test shit. You're defending a scumbag move and Riot needs to be called out on it.
: Hi there, please see [this](https://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/client-new-features-feedback/dM75EUEY-pbe-and-rp) regarding RP. In addition, [PBE server status](http://status.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/#pbe) also says there are issues. Next time please try to use the search function before making a discussion, as this will avoid clutter on the boards. You get BE the same way as on live: levelling up (champion capsules) and First Win of the Day. Riot doesn't give BE: this is intended. All content that needs testing is available for 1 BE, which means RP is unnecessary at the moment.
RP was never necessary, they could have implemented blue essence/ip from the beginning, you're missing the problem, we as players WANT RP we WANT to use older skins on the PBE, the least riot could do is publicly say that they're no longer working on the RP issue instead of keeping the message that's been up for 5 fucking months telling us they're "working on it". The reason they're not doing that is because there would be backlash from people who want their RP so they keep up the impression that it's something that will ever be fixed. It's an incredibly scummy thing to do.
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