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: A few updates to GGMF are gonna be hitting PBE today! If you got any feedback, please feel free to hit us up with any comments. :)
[I made a thread here of what i could catch, with some positive feedback](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/84irmt/good_undocumented_changed_about_ggmf_on_latest/) Please do tell us if there's more, i'm excited to check every single thing changed. *I'm somehow glad i ranted*. Biggest question, since the portraits change hairstyles (thank you so much for those btw), does that imply the models will have a small change on the hair too soon? Anyway, good changes, glad to see at least some work here and there. Again on a personnal note i truely believe that if the hair changes **A BIT** to reflect the portraits, it would mean a lot to people and shut the "Chroma" meme once and for all. It doesn't have to be huge, just one stroke here and there to make the changes valuable. When i first saw [this teaser](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DXi-vwgVwAEsG_g.jpg:large), i was like holy shit! Only to be greated with [this sadness](https://puu.sh/zHT53/59ab8616e8.png). You probably all saw this [fanmade](https://i.imgur.com/KWv1TcP.png) art but don't you think this is 10 times better? Exo doesn't need to be that much of a huge backpack, let MF have her fabulous hair out like she always does. I don't think i've seen any model changes in this patch anyway, that would be welcome and probably the only thing keeping me from getting the full bundle at launch. Another thing i hope gets changed is the walking animation with W passive up (guns in the air). It really sadly is too close to her base one and it feels unnatural to the theme. Surely it must be extremely tiring to hold those guns up constantly (even if i guess the suit is somehow helping her). If i had to choose between hair changes and the animations...definitely animations, the running is just ruining the whole thing for me so hard. While i'm at it, would it be possible to add the particles from the recall on the weapons when using W? I'm talking about those : https://puu.sh/zHSLv/28f6a4a156.png Great stuff but only on recall! :( Anyway, thank you for those small changes, please do some little more if possible, -A very conflicted consummer.
: Hiii, friends! Thank you all so much for leaving your feedback here and elsewhere! Everyone on the team is reading through the comments. Sorry for taking so long to respond here. As you can expect out of a tech-intensive skin like GGMF, there are a lot of bugs. o_O I don't get to make the decisions here, but I can act as an advisory source of information and at least bring these points to the decision-makers. With all that said, I wanted to provide a bit of context on some of the common points brought up in this thread (and other online sources). **"WTF is up with her face and neck in the splash art?!"** * You can expect to see an update to this in the next PBE deploy! Hopefully the changes feel better to ya'll. **"Her VO doesn't sound like Miss Fortune! And why all the sexual lines?"** * Unfortunately, we couldn't get base MF's voice actress for this skin, so that was unavoidable. As for all the sexualized lines, we actually got that same feedback during the process to tone down the seductive lines and add more of that fierce Captain Fortune vibe, so we ended up adding in more "vicious" and "cutthroat" lines for events that tend to play more often (e.g. Long Move, Attack). We honestly feel good about the current state of her VO in regards to capturing MF in this universe. **"These forms look like _chromas_, change the models!"** * Unfortunately, there are limitations that prevent us from changing the models at this stage. We can make minor tweaks to the textures however. **"Why does the jetpack VFX blink?"** * With the way the VFX is set up to play from the animation, this is an unavoidable side-effect. We managed to make this a little less noticeable at least! **"The animations are way too close to base!"** * Keeping the animations fairly close to base was a concession that we had to make early on in development. If a marksman is going to be able to transform an unlimited amount of times throughout the game with varying particles (as well as a very different silhouette with her shoulder-pieces, exo-suit, and guns), we have to make tough choices to keep consistency with Base MF in several areas to maintain the MF read. **"Change the in-game portraits to match with the splash!"** * There aren't any plans to do this at the moment, but I can check with the team and see what they think. If we can leverage Elementalist Lux's tech and iterate on the splash easily, then there's a possibility, but the timeline is still super tight. **"Bring her back into production and re-release her at the typical Ultimate skin price."** * Mr. Cactopus addressed that [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/82pel6/riot_should_bring_back_gun_goddess_mf_in/dvbvyiu/). **"Change her VO lines to be different per form."** * She actually does have unique VO lines per form! Currently, we don't plan on expanding the current list of unique VO lines. **"There's a super annoying bug where she appears at the edge of the Fog of War!"** * This should be fixed now!
Ok so not personnal to you LoveStrut but rather all Rioters involved in GGMF and reading this : - Stop being delusional - Your marketing strategy for this skin is pathetic - Stop trying to force your "it's for clarity" when we have hundred of skins that don't respect that criteria - [Read the comments in this thread carefully](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/835mmk/riots_most_recent_response_to_concerns_about_gg/) - You are just lazy on this project, stop pretending you gather for solutions when it's more for how to carefully sell your bullshit - You guys are getting downvoted everywhere you mention GGMF, stop acting like it's all good when the outrage is massive. - Have a nice day and wonderful year of guilt for this failure.
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Gun Goddess Miss Fortune!
On another important note if you guys read this : - Make us able to change suits while dead, it's annoying to waste time at base in important games for such a feature - Tune up her quotes more often because i was shocked at the amount of interaction lines she has for this and that which i never heard once in 3 games.
: Just like the feedback threads here, Riot just answers to the comments that say "Damn Riot what an awesome skin I love it" and answer "Thank you very much, we are happy that you enjoy the skin" while 90% of the time ignoring good critisism/feedback.
Sadly it's over [Here is Cactopus's response](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/82pel6/riot_should_bring_back_gun_goddess_mf_in/dvbvyiu/) We won't get a single thing, at least not yet (and probably never) "Our plan is to listen for now" = "We will just wait for this to slide while the people that aren't on networks buy the skin" I'm sad and expected at least each form to have more design variety like helmets, hats, sigils, orbs and new haircuts so i can at least defend the "chroma" opinion...but it's just obvious the main animator took the base model and polished it as you can see the face's quality and the idle/run/run with passive animations. I choose to believe not everyone at Riot's is ok with this, i've not seen such a big outrage from the community for a while now and for such a huge scale skin it really mattered...oh well, no smiles for us today. I'll just leave this here, as i'm really exhausted of trying anymore with this topic : https://imgur.com/KTArn2N https://imgur.com/WniVZ1x https://imgur.com/a7xOdvM This thread will probably soon be locked and no one will get an answer until the Riot Ask, take care.
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Gun Goddess Miss Fortune!
Hello! I made a reddit [thread here that got some attention](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/82iu8o/gun_goddess_mf_shouldnt_be_ultimate_and_here_is/) but as i tested the skin and updated my feedback constantly, here are some bonus feedback along the reddit commentary : - As i stated in the thread, it would have been far better if the idles for each form were a lot different than what they are currently, to add variety (it feels too base MF). - The ultimate has a unique animation shooting for each form, this is great, why isn't that the case for all abilities? She has 4 different weapons, no way she uses them the same way. Prove the people those are more than just chromas - Her portrait **needs** to change to adapt to her form, her hair color is different. You did that for Lux, you don't need the full splashes just the icon, please do consider. - Her particles for Q and E are soooooo light, i can barely see them sometimes, they really need more contrast or opacity, especially on white exo. - Again on the "chroma" topic, i feel like the majority would prefer if each exo had more unique design details than just weapons. Hats, Helmets, Sigils, anything that isn't just colors. And i'm talking model wise, not VFX. - On another topic, she doesn't have facial animations? Cmon...some champs do and some champs don't, it's totally random, but this is a one in a year skin... - I guess because of clarity, no way to make the walking animation different too based on the suit? At least the auto attack animation since different weapons. Let's be honest tho here, a lot of people agree the walking with passive looks like Vi because of the mecha hands up so, there goes clarity. - Again on the issue with models, it doesn't help that the color pattern for 3 of them is pratically the same [here](https://puu.sh/zCyNa/ff63a60847.png). Four forms and red/ash white/dark blue are a thing in 3 of those... - You guys ruined the hopes and dreams of all MF mains who waited and wanted a more serious VO to fit her real background. We ended up with juvenile sex jokes yet again... **Overall it just doesn't feel like a huge upgrade to MF like other Ultimate Skins did to their champions back then. The particles are too light and thin in a way they feel impactless. Her VO is uninteresting, trying to be badass but fails to make you listen (no real good lore, stupid catchphrases). Her movements are WAY too similar to base MF and along the familiar VO theme it ruins the feeling of a ultimate skin. And most of all of course, the models being too similar in forms and shape is the biggest issue of all. I'm not rediscovering MF here like i did with Lux or Udyr, i'm just seeing base MF in a suit. ** Three solutions as i see it : - Pull back the skin for a while, make it worth it for everyone in a way they'll blow their minds off. Screw the price, we'd pay 4k if each form is valuable. My reddit thread got 5k upvotes and on more than 900 comments i've read a lot of constructive comments saying the same things i do. Make a poll, try the people, they don't like it, don't force it on them. - Release it as it is with some minor tweaks, adopt a new skin tier and let the shitstorm evaporate while the design team lives with the guilt that they couldn't accomplish a special skin with passion when a majority found it to be underwhelming. Let's be honest here, the skin was very badly recieved and this isn't personal, i'm spending dailies on boards and reddit and other networks and the feedback is not looking good. - Bruteforce a lot of notable changes on PBE for these 2 weeks to come and delay a week if needed while bumping the price back to 3250 if you see fit depending on the tweaks. A good compromise to tell everyone you're listening and trying to do the best thing. *On a personal note guys, i've been around since season 2...i've seen a lot of this company's sides and most of the time i can say it was amazing and generous. I know how you work, i know what deadlines are, i remember the struggle iZac had for compact VFX on Lux, i have few hopes for big changes here but if anything i think the community will be relieved for the most part if they see anything happen. The connotation for a ultimate skin implies huge expectations.* *PS : had some issues with edits not saving but it should be ok now*
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