: If there's any part of the changelist that's too much, I'll be happy to reel it in. All data we have so far suggests that he's at least as powerful as Live with these changes, and likely quite a bit stronger.
> [{quoted}](name=RiotRepertoir,realm=PBE,application-id=2EAF660193FA3B668D7234B3AEBB530C5AB7F651,discussion-id=Y7ELMJAK,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2015-08-04T21:30:44.078+0000) > > If there's any part of the changelist that's too much, I'll be happy to reel it in. All data we have so far suggests that he's at least as powerful as Live with these changes, and likely quite a bit stronger. You removed crit garen go away hes literally no fun anymore give back crit garen It has no effect on Garen if he builds boring straight tank with 1 bruiser item like you want
: Garen PBE Changelist and Feedback thread
So let me get this straight You nerfed his healing, his damage, his late game bulk, made him MORE kitable, gutted his laning, nerfed his silence, crit spin (no more youmuu's rush), now slows himself with his spin on champions instead of going through units, nerfed his late game hp. So he can have slightly higher base stats (except hp), slightly higher spin damage late game (maybe), and some EXTREMELY situational true damage? Garen is useless unless he gets ahead in lane. His biggest weakness is he gets kited into oblivion so he can't reach squishies. Good bye Garen. Riot has literally no idea what to do with you. so you might as well be removed.

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