: As I said on another comment: Skins with complete new models, but no new VFX/SFX, traditionally cost 750 RP. Not 945. This discount is still too low, even if we're not comparing it to chromas.
The asking price of around 900 RP is absurd. For around the same price someone could buy Justicar Syndra, BM Evelynn, or even Crabgot which have vastly different particles and models. Rebuying the same skin for such a price doesn't make sense. The base price without the originals is fair, but paying so much for some edits to skins we already own is just a no. Using wishful thinking, I'd love them at a 520 RP price, but 750 RP is fair.
: Introducing Variants: Pajama Guardians & Solar and Lunar Eclipse Leona
I really love new ideas and having different ways to “customize” our favorite characters, but I honestly think the 30% discount is a bit of a joke. The skins share the same particles and recall, the only change being the model and splash art. These are worth 520 RP max as an “upgraded chroma”. I’d be willing to fork over 750 RP for my favorite characters, but a 30% discount for a skin we practically own is highway robbery and a scam. Edit: I’d just like to say that the skins themselves are awesome, and super cute and creative. Both Leona and SG are wonderful variants, but the asking price is ridiculous.
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: SKT T1!
One thing to say about SKT Sivir. Her weapon is awkward, but her hair clashes with the red of the skin. It's a light blue to match with Fnatic Janna, but she shouldn't match with her at all, considering they're representing two different teams. She should be blonde, like SKT Zyra, and it's quite an improvement. [Here's an edit by Reddit user Jermaiine.](http://imgur.com/SUJD8zs)
: Quinn PBE Feedback Thread
Ooh, I love how Valor actually flies Quinn!
: Miss Fortune PBE Feedback Thread
I _love_ the Love Tap system! It heavily reinforces Miss Fortune's AoE, encouraging her to switch targets after autos for more damage.
: Caitlyn Gameplay Update Feedback Megathread
Excited! I like how the W and E interact with her kit more, but of course we have to play her first!
: Fiora Feedback Thread
Honestly, I love the splash art though it could use tweaks. It has such a cartoony style like Disney, but it's quite fitting since Demacia is somewhat of a fairy-tale land (JUSTICE!). I really love her new outfit. It looks really cute! I'll probably use it over Night + Head Mistress Fiora even though I own the two. Really nice design!
: Chroma Packs Slingshot onto PBE
Lovestrut, I tweeted about this but the Morgana only has the toxic one available for me in champion select!
: Chroma Packs Slingshot onto PBE
Rebel {{champion:51}} : Blue- I feel this one is way too similar with the original. The only major contrast is probably is her gun, while her outfit seems to just be a slight tint. Pink- I love this one because it's so cute! If one thing, I would change her hair because the gray makes her look like a grandma if that makes sense. Perfectly fine though! Green- Somewhat reminds me of leprechauns but the green hair contrasts from that theme. Really cute though! Haunt {{champion:25}} : Black- Again, this seems too close to the original. The dark colors somewhat look the same to her original. White- Extremely elegant and the color scheme reminds me of the Warden Series. Reminds me of the White Zelda recolor from Smash Bros! Green- I think I love this one the most. She seems to be like a forest fairy, and her green hair reminds me of Saria. I love how it heavily contrasts from the original, unlike the black one.
: LeBlanc W Speed Nerf Opinions
Lots of people compare this to the Zed shadow change a while back. Though Zed was fine, LeBlanc HERSELF is the missile. Making her vulnerable is fine, but this makes her way too vulnerable. LeBlanc may be safe as is but she can't close out games. She can't. If she wave clears with W and R, her burst is severely reduced. Here's my idea: Revert W speed, but keep the E changes. I can agree the hitbox is a tad broken. To make her have a stronger weakness, nerf her W AoE so that her ability to close out games is even weaker, though keeping LeBlanc unpredictable as always. This change is huge, and isn't acceptable.
: Leblanc W speed opinion and a different solution
You don't know how much I thank you for writing this. My summoner name is Evaine LeBlanc and I main her. Nerfing her W speed isn't the solution. Assassins aren't supposed to be predictable and easy to react to. That goes EVERYTHING against their gameplay style. I agree that LeBlanc may be "unfair" so to speak, but people need to realize her weaknesses. She can't really carry a game. Yeah, I'm not joking. She could only assassinate a target with her ult, giving her vulnerability for around 15-30 seconds. This LIMITS her waveclear. If as suggested you lower her W AoE, it makes her weakness more apparent, leaving her unable to close out games. LeBlanc can't pentakill as easily as Katarina, but she's more reliable in terms of single target burst, so take advantage of that timeframe when her ult is down. Trust me, she has nothing left when her ult is down except to run. Thank you, Summoner. {{champion:7}}
: Abyssal Scepter Context
Aww. I was so excited to play it with Bruiser Diana. Guess I'll have my chance another day!
: We'd like to see any logs from the PBE\logs directory or the PBE\RADS\projects\lol_air_client\releases\\deploy\logs if you have any in there. We'd especially like the logs if you've NOT yet fixed it via the delete/repatch solution.
Hi! MagicAmy here {{champion:99}} and I have some logs. They're from around ~4 days ago, but I'm in the same situation.
: >I'm getting huge Maleficent vibes from it for me, she reminds me more of the evil queen from snow-white :D
Ah, I got my Diseny Villains messed up!
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Playing Card Skins!
Queen of Diamonds {{champion:134}} : Just from seeing the image you've nailed it! Queen of Diamonds Syndra fits her perfectly- Corrupt, but Elegant Royalty. The wine red suits her so well. Her crown is to the point, and I'm getting huge Maleficent vibes from it. I'm not sure how the purple particles will be with a red skin, but we'll just have to wait and see. Day 1 Buy. :3 Ace of Spades {{champion:81}} : It's no doubt that class would suit Ezreal. Though he's an explorer, he's a somewhat arrogant one at that. The black hair is an interesting take at the Blonde Marksman, but I'm glad that it differentiates from Debonair Ezreal. Wild Card {{champion:35}} : I love this skin as much as the Syndra one. Again, it suits his character so well. The madness, the box, and don't get me started on the hair. It's so card like which is perfect for the theme, and he reminds me so much of the Mad Hatter, though he already has that skin. I much prefer this one, and this is easily his best skin. I don't play Shaco, but I plan to learn him just for this skin. King of Clubs {{champion:82}} : I don't play Mordekaiser so I'm gonna be a bit quick on this one. He's an armored knight, but in this one, he's a royal one. The Club looks fantastically crafted, though the yellow doesn't scream "Card" themed for some reason.
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Master Arcanist Ziggs!
First reaction: Wizard Ziggs. Eh. After seeing particles: OMEGA GOOD JOB! {{summoner:31}}
: When will Chroma packs be available for testing on the PBE?
Most likely tomorrow, as Tuesdays are when new PBE patches are released. If not, Wednesday is usually the alternative!
: Introducing chroma packs!
Though I'm not an avid Lucian or Lee Sin player, I'll be purchasing Chromas if say, a Jinx or Ahri one were to come out!
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Arclight Vayne!
{{champion:67}} The light shall bring victory! Wait, wrong game! Haven't seen the particles, but it looks great so far despite being a WIP! Quick question, will she have eyebrows? I edited them on to have an idea of what she would look life if she did (I added wings to her eyes too!) [Click here for the slight edit!](http://i.gyazo.com/a0325fc96a56364e104baa6847ccff6b.png)
: new ap item available for testing soon!
" and as you'll quickly notice, this item takes the basic actions of moving around the battlefield and repeatedly slinging spells" {{champion:134}} THIS IS WHAT I LIVE FOR!
: Blitz Pull With Ezreal
Intended. The same goes for Tristana's jump.
: Hey there! First off, thanks for the report! For future reports, it would be awesome if you could post it in the PBE thread made for the specific skin! For example [this DJ Sona thread!](http://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/general-pbe-feedback/T87UOYHf-pbe-bugs-feedback-dj-sona-feature-highlights) (Most skins will be labeled as a bug and feedback thread!) It helps keep bugs for a specific skin in one place, and that helps us keep visibility on everything being reported for the skin! As you can see, it's taken a bit of time for us to notice this thread! :] Thanks again!
So sorry Katey! I didn't see it pinned so I assumed the whole PBE board become DJ Sona land. {{champion:37}}
: Thank you for this thread, I hope Riot knows about this by now. I also made a thread about this a few days ago: http://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/general-pbe-feedback/AgGkHZ7E-small-dj-sona-detail-just-not-implemented-yet-or-wont-be-implemented-at-all
Ah, yes! I've seen this thread but I decided to expand on it and bring up a fresh post for more Riot attention. Great minds think alike!
Rioter Comments
: I have 3 issues with DJ Sona !
2. I believe they said her music progresses throughout the game. I'm guessing it comes late game? I barely hear the full song at 20 minutes, so maybe it just needs some in-game time.
  Rioter Comments
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Marauder Ashe and Marauder Warwick
I'd really love to see metal/iron arrows. Blue arrows don't match the skin for Ashe at all.
: Suggestion for Irelia
[I wonder if there'll be one soon!](http://a.disquscdn.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/1653/3374/original.jpg)
: Firecraker Jinx E
Jinx's current E has no correlation to the Lunar Revel. The Dragons do, however, as Dragons are a part of Asian culture, as well as the fireworks within them.
: The reason that Tristana splash art's update is not appropriate (PBE patch Jan/22)
Just another cruel killer? I find Tristana to be adventurous and outgoing compared to Jinx. Jinx blows up things for fun and for herself; Tristana is more of an "honorable" but very carefree soldier who's in it just for the adventure. Tristana never talks about anyone dying compared to Jinx. "Bring on the bad guys!"- Tristana This quote shows Tristana is doing it for justice (and you see some playfulness.) She's actually helping her community. Jinx on the other hand... "Everybody, panic!" She just wants everyone to go mad for her own enjoyment. I do see that she is similar to Jinx in terms of clothing and weapon, but that's about it.
: 'Nemesis Draft' featured game mode coming soon to the PBE
I'm hoping that the icon is non-Ziggz related! He's been taking up the Yordle icon spotlight!
: The voice filter is great, and I love the choir-esque sound behind it! Might I ask where the name idea of "Arbiter" came from?
An arbiter is: A person who has the sole or absolute power of judging or determining. With Vel'Koz, he has great knowledge- the perfect person to judge a person's fate (especially with lasers!) This skin makes him a holy, god-like being that judges the fates of others. Innocent? Move along. Guilty? *ZAP*
Rioter Comments
: On Tristana's splash... We wanted to get the old one out of the game as soon as possible, especially given her high visibility during Worlds. This isn't a *completely* new splash, as it will have modifications of the current one on live. However, the changes will be sizable specifically on her character.
Ah, that makes sense. I suppose this is why the new Maokai splash was slightly shown on Worlds Finale before it was released on the PBE?
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Warring Kingdoms Katarina!
Recall is excellent. I had my mouth open the whole time while watching it, it was THAT amazing.
: Too little skin the Lunar New Year in South East Asia region. Riot Games is only interested in the Chinese region .
: Tristana jumps into action!
I love it! It really suits her character and she looks like a Yordle now (not some blue midgit smurf thing!) Her new voice is incredible, she sounds way more mature., based off her champ select quote, which is really cute! She kind of reminds me of a Yordle Jinx, if you kinda know what I mean (but not insane!) Quick question though. Why make a new Tristana splash art rather than just waiting for her VU one? I know that the soon-to-be old new one is great, but it just seems time consuming to make two versions.
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Challenger Ahri!
I really like this skin. It makes me look forward to Season 2016 (mainly because it guarantees a new skin in the set!) What I really love about the skin is that it doesn't have a clear theme. Don't get me wrong, having a theme is good, but this skin is highly original. I just don't know what about it I love! The anime-like appearance, the similarities to a white mage, maybe even [her ear's resemblance to Cia's hat!](http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140930132536/zelda/images/8/8c/Cia_White_Witch.png) I really love the originality in this skin. Particles are beautiful too, and the recall is pretty.
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Blood Moon Elise!
My dear Katey, if you're still here, could you please try to get the skin back to pink? It seems that a majority of the people want the pink color. I personally believe that it was changed due to confusion. For instance, a majority of the people loved it as is and said nothing, but the few that didn't like it spoke up. The skin was later changed, meaning the people that loved the pink version has now spoken up as a result (Judging by the top comments currently it seems it favors the pink skin.) I personally enjoy it because it adds elegance, in comparison to a threatening red color. Isn't elegance one of Elise's main traits? Sure she's threatening, but she hides it, and her basic skin shows enough red as is. Marion Moseby, Hotel and Cruise Manager and Avid Gamer
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Blood Moon Elise!
Aww, I liked the pink one better. How will the particles be now that she's red and her particles are pinkish? :>
: The team is aware of players not a huge fan of the blue accents, and are discussing it. Sorry to hear you're disappointed. We opted for a deep pink / purple, as opposed to red because her base relies so heavily on red particles.
I honestly like how it provides a "spectral" look into Elise.
: > I thought her face was rather creepy for a human. A doll is another case. Great work! She looks like a nutcracker to me :P
She does look like a nutcracker. There are many variations of dolls, and nutcrackers are one of them. It adds to the Christmas theme, I suppose.
: Omgosh, that's such a lovely explanation of this skin! She's got a very doll-esque mouth, I think! :D
I thought her face was rather creepy for a human. A doll is another case. Great work!
: The particles are good and stuff, but all the blood moon have an awesome red colour, and then comes heartseeker elise....... This ruined the whole theme for me, and I am huge dissapointed about it. The number 1 thing I just really HATE is her legs, nice copy of vic. Elise. Really doesn't fit, rlly? Blue legs? In blood moon? Pls change this.. (Look at the youtube comments, 90% says the same)
The blood moon had to do with the oni which were basically demons in Japanese culture. The blood moon was a ceremony which they put on masks to look like demons and deities. Elise's Mask is on top of her head just as akali. It resembles her beauty and makes her look innocent. Thats why the mask isnt in her face because it would change her appearence a lot. Elise has to lure her victims and then entrap them while they dont realize her true insticts. This can happen by a pretty face, am I right? The spider forms on the other hand is the definition of 'fear, death' and expesses all her vicius intentions. I think the thematic and skin design is top class material and has a deep meaning and undestanding. As someone who enjoys Elise and was bored by her 2 skins I can only be thankful that they released a skin that i find to be so much fitting.
: > People are saying Blood Moon Elise should at least be red. I beg to disagree. This is in reference to the Blood Moon Event in Ionia. You don't necessarily have to wear blood red clothing. The Blood Moon Event focuses on the blood moon AND Ionia's culture. This skin is a reflection of Ionia's deep culture, not the Blood Moon itself. Fully agreed. The colour scheme is great! Also if it was red, it'd eat base Elise's particle space a bit. Being pink lets it be more distinct!
Yes, that is true. It's like creating a green-colored skin for Akali. There wouldn't be much of a difference!
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Blood Moon Elise!
People are saying Blood Moon Elise should at least be red. I beg to disagree. This is in reference to the Blood Moon Event in Ionia. You don't necessarily have to wear blood red clothing. The Blood Moon Event focuses on the blood moon AND Ionia's culture. This skin is a reflection of Ionia's deep culture, not the Blood Moon itself.
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Winter Wonder Orianna!
It's a fantastic imagination of the human Orianna's childhood Christmas, playing with her Poro Ball. If this were to be "human but robot" orianna, something should change with her face, I suggest making the eyes smaller OR cheeks thinner. If this was a "doll" orianna, carry on, it's perfect as is. ^_^
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Blood Moon Elise!
This is such a beautiful skin that takes much inspiration from the Japanese culture, I can't believe that they're still to make a skin to celebrate the Japanese server's release! I haven't seen the particles yet, but I bet they'll be beautiful. I just hope it's as great as the time I personally visited Japan on the SS Tipton!
: So... Is kalista supposed to be able to do this?
I might actually take teleport over flash because Kalista's passive is just so great for escapes itself. :3 {{champion:89}} : Oh no! We're getting ganked! I will protect yo- Thanks.
: Well I guess her particles and sfx are not final yet. I expect that this will be following up soon. {{champion:28}}
Oh my goodness, hi Brother Ted. I just hope she has something different.
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