: In which case, they probably weren't as severe as what you did. Perhaps their punishments were just for something that isn't offensive to everyone. And it was more of a reminder to be nice to people, no matter what you view as a small joke. Also, you are not helping by saying that your friend groups, have also gotten banned. It just makes it seem like you deserve your ban even more.
No i am saying they were punished one time. I was never punished. And what only one mistake and boom perma ban. This is not fair. And i think riot should rethink their punishment system.
: Hard to see? You have to click them away before you can actually interact with your client again. For all that you know, they were punished a little later when you did. Anyway, we're going off topic. If you still think ban was not justified, go ahead and contact support. I'll warn you, bans are never reverted on PBE, but you can try. We cannot help you here, so I'll end my part here. Thanks you for your cooperation in PBE, have a good day!
Yes but i know they were punished too. And i hope riot gives me another chance i haven't been toxic since 2013 when my last warning was.{{champion:32}}
: > First it says if they received punishment. Exactly when? You got banned after, you cannot receive the notification.
You actually receive notifications but they are harder to see. I saw a message that 2 of the other players are punished too.
: However, I did give you examples of what you should've said instead of potentially toxic stuff. And if you don't have the time to type stuff, a simple danger ping can do wonders of replacing "stop feeding graves" If you don't have something nice to say, don't say anything.
Well sometimes saying something bad helps too. And the danger ping is used to warn players from possible ganks. It isn't useful as a way of saying something.
: You do not know whether they received punishment. If they are toxic enough, they will be banned in due time. You don't tell people, "report ADFE for rage quitting," you tell them "(I think) ADFE/Champ x went afk :/." That way they can decide for themselves whether they report him or not.
First it says if they received punishment. Second when someone is AFK it says with the announcer ADFE left game or something. And if he returns back you could say that you are sorry but you can still report him for leaving the game cause that is also punishable.\ Thanks you for your cooperation in PBE, have a good day!
: > (...) not the most toxic form these games. I'm sorry, but it does not matter if you were or were not the most toxic in those games. If *you're* toxic, then *you're* banned. If these people prove toxic enough, then they will get their punishment in due time, too.
OK but why the others were not banned? Tell me please? Thanks you for your cooperation in PBE, have a good day!
: Regarding game 1 and 2: other peoples' behaviour do not justify your own. If they jump out of a window, does that mean you should too? This is about *your* actions, not theirs. As for report calling: > " (...) **Calling for others to report a player is a punishable offense.** It is a form of bullying and as such is against the summoner code. It should always be a personal decision for each player as to whether or not they feel another player warrants a report. In fact, do feel free to tell your team mates that "report calling" in itself counts as harassment. Flaming and bullying a player will never help them to improve their game mechanics, communication etc. Take five minutes to add someone and talk to them after game. Perhaps do some customs to help them learn a champion, or how to gank or how to use vision." - [Riot Husker](http://boards.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behaviour-en/EE7d58Pu-dear-riotsome-clarification-please?show=nested&comment=0007) (2016)
OK but if someone says report ADFE(for example) what should we do ? I think that we should look at this player in the game and decide. By saying report ADFE you ask for help with possible troller.What if this player is in your next 3 games. If you asked for report he wouldn't ruin other peoples games. P.S. For game 1 and 2 i am not trying to justify my behaviour. Just pointing out that the others were more toxic but they did not recieve punishment Thanks you for your cooperation in PBE, have a good day!
: I'll start pointing out the issues. * "shut up" - Not always toxic, but in most cases it is. The times where you could say this a very few, and mostly in a more joking manner when already talking with one person in specific. * "i gank wining lane" - This could be taken as all other lanes are bad. In fact, it is pretty much the equivalent if the jungler said "I won't gank you." which is always seen as toxic. * "and vel could say ss" - He may have been at fault, but it still isn't right to criticize him. Perhaps saying "btw vel, try to ping MIA. It could help a lot." * "stop feeding graves" - Could be replaced with "Play safe and avoid Graves" * "wtf are you doing" & "i go afk" - Pretty much instant signs of being toxic. Fake saying AFK could be used as a joke, but combined with the rest of your behaviour, it only makes you seem even more toxic.
I did not mean to criticize him.I meant that he could help with pings cause he wasnt paying attention(in other words a friendly reminding) With ''stop feeding graves'' i meant the same you wrote but the game was intense and we did not have time to write poems. And with the ''wtf are you doing'' i wanted him to show me how to do the new thing with the mana bar, HP bar, the XP bar, and the Gold bar. And after that I added '' how you doing this'' but my screenshoting program cannot screenshot it for some reason. P.S. With "i gank wining lane" i said i wont gank because he was not helping - letting me 1v1 a fed tahm, or even 2v1. And after i died he was telling my team to report me for no ganks so that is why i said this. P.S. Something more? Thanks you for your cooperation in PBE, have a good day!
: These are just a few of the games in which you were toxic. The last few were just the one that triggered the ban. I'll place some examples here that are obnoxious, toxic or ambiguous. Please remember that we do not know the context; explaining yourself won't help. Game 1: "noobschamps" Game 2: "shut up" "stop feeding graves" Game 3: "wtf are you doing" "report brum" (report calling is actually forbidden, though, as far as I know, not usually punished) "i go afk" (doesn't matter if you actually did or not; you threatened with it and thus worsened the game atmosphere)
Well i understand you but in the first game i just shared my thought of the enemy comp because they were filling the all chat with how we are losers and etc. In the second my teammates were spamming so i asked them to shut up after they continued i muted them.Later a riven started intentionally feeding so we all told her to stop. After the game both teams reported her. And in the third game you are right for all things except that report calling is forbidden.I checked and you can ask for report if the summoner is acting bad - intentionally feeding, being toxic, being not sportsman etc.
: Inappropriate permanent ban.
Here are three screenshots of the chat log. https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BwzHZNl_6Z2cSnhib3dzVV9iTjA https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BwzHZNl_6Z2cTS1kdWRwRkJZd1k https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BwzHZNl_6Z2cVGk0cFdXT1hhX0k P.S:After i said i go afk i still played well and ended the game.
: In which case, they probably weren't as severe as what you did. Perhaps their punishments were just for something that isn't offensive to everyone. And it was more of a reminder to be nice to people, no matter what you view as a small joke. Also, you are not helping by saying that your friend groups, have also gotten banned. It just makes it seem like you deserve your ban even more.
As i said i will attach a screenshot of the chat log. You will see for yourself. Thanks you for your cooperation in PBE, have a good day!
: It's not always chat restrictions -> temp ban -> permanent ban. Depending on the severity of the situation, an immediate permanent ban might be necessary. Chat restrictions and temporary bans are actually pretty uncommon on PBE; we usually go to perm bans right away. As I said, PBE is a zero tolerance environment. it doesn't matter if you're "only toxic 2 or 3 times," you're supposed to never be toxic. At all.
OK i will show you the chat log. Where it can be seen that i am not the most toxic form these games.
: No, being toxic, at all, is reason for you to get perma-banned. It's not always three strikes and you're out. Many of us on PBE are happy that Riot jumps straight to three on almost all PBE punishments.
No actually you are wrong i have many real life friends in pbe.They always have been restricted three times and then perma banned.
: The idea of the banning system is to not to be toxic. It doesnt matter how many chances you have or not. They will prolly give you 2 chances, 3 or maybe you'll need only 1 chance (it depends how toxic are you). You know what? im glad of that happening, RIot is taking serious efforts to make this happen, and no, doesnt matter how you beg, you'll not have your account back (unless you proff that that ban was unnecessary by showing the chat log, but that's something very rare). Thanks you for your cooperation in PBE, have a good day!
I know the idea and i have reported toxic players too.But i know that the system only gives you temporary ban and then the perma ban.And i did not get the temp ban nor the chat restrict.So that is why i think the ban was inappropriate. Thanks you for your cooperation in PBE, have a good day!
: > "PBE access is a privilege, not a right. While certain language may not offend you, be mindful of others who may have a different reaction. Players should always be respectful to other players, community members, moderators, and Rioters. Harassment and insults will not be tolerated (“just playing” or "they started it"are NOT a catch-all excuses). > In instances where other players are harassing or insulting you, I would encourage you to report them, as their poor behavior will catch up to them, resulting in disciplinary action. I do not recommend fighting with fire, as it doesn't matter who started an argument - harassment or insults are exactly that." - [Riot KateyKhaos](http://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/general-pbe-feedback/mwpGtPpd-i-was-just-banned?comment=0004) PBE is a zero tolerance environment, it doesn't take much to get a ban. Toxicity is not appreciated here and will result in irreversible punishment. Please learn from this experience and strive to improve yourself; not only here, but in life.
Yeah i know.I read the rules. But with this post i meant that i wasn't toxic all the time.I was toxic like only 2 or 3 times.And riot did not gave me chat restrictions,temporary ban or nothing. Just straight perma ban. {{sticker:zombie-nunu-tears}}
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