: [5/7/2015] Starting a new beta test for the Instant Feedback System
I've been looking forward to something like this for ages, glad to see it's finally in motion, now we just need to wait for the chat rooms to follow suit.
: I'll be looking for feedback as to whether Runaan's is actually good on her. Historically, it's been a bit of a gimmick build on most characters (Kalista being the main exception), but I made sure it worked and looked awesome for this just in case. If it turns out Runaan's actually seems like the most effective build path for the character, especially for lower level players (who tend to need the most help from Rec Items), then I'd consider changing her rec list.
Bit off topic, but if you're changing recommended items, would you mind considering some other more widespread changes, that doesn't just include Ashe? Most supports have a sight stone in the 2nd line, would it be possible to add a sweeper in that line as well, as a high percentage of supports switch to sweepers when they buy the sight stone. I've also noticed that a lot of champions would benefit, if you included wards (and mana potions). To help make it more obvious that everyone should buy wards, and not just the support.
: Ashe Update Feedback Thread
I'd like to know how this affects her early game, as you seemed to have removed the 'randomness' from crit on her, which is a huge part of most adc, and especially if she now requires specialized rune pages to 'maximize' her potential. Standard adc rune pages include 1 crit mark, but without having tried her to see how it work exactly, I can't really say for sure. Judging by the video it was very difficult for me to see how her passive was stacked, is there any way to create a visual indicator? You mention 'weak moments' could you elaborate on this, cause as I can read from this, she has a 'weak' early game, and not only scales incredibly fast, but also her damage output/utility increase the longer you spend fighting her. Edit: Also would like to know about any changes to her AS animation, if it finish faster or slower, now that you've increased the missile speed.
: Hey dude(tte? Person? Fleshbag {{champion:112}}.) Thanks for the in-depth reports! For the time being I've swapped out all our links for working ones that aren't sitting behind redirects. We also need to take a pass at modernizing the content of the FAQ, but that's a much larger endeavor. I wouldn't expect to have anything published for several weeks (like, over a month) since the FAQ is a pretty hefty wall of text that has to go through the same pipeline as LoL.com content.
Dude, dudette, fleshbag? It's all just so trivial and Bothersome. Must be so nice with you, high in the sky 'n all. I hope you don't mind me posting here, but I could help out with the FAQ. You call that a hefty wall of text? Did you see the [guide](http://boards.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/champions-gameplay-en/mr8E2Vxb) I wrote, or the [ticket](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/requests/8588065) I'm referencing, now THAT'S a **wall of text**. **** **Human mentality**: (work in strange ways) A while ago a Rioter explained that you use a 'graph' to determine how much effort is needed to fix something, compared to how large of an impact this has, if you could briefly explain it, that would be awesome. It can also help you guys determine (from headlines) the amount of work required when people post bug reports. Giving people a slight insight in how things work, is generally a great way to get them involved, and feel as though they're part of the process. (mentality aspect) Or just try to include humor, people are much more inclined to read a whole text if there's humor or nice pictures to satisfy our ever craving need for something to happen, the guide I wrote is a decent example of this. **** * **Do I have to start from level 1?** * New PBE accounts are leveled up to 30 every night around midnight PST. You've recently made some changed to this system, not sure what the truth is now. I think it has something to do with logging in/out. > * Tester bug reporting & feedback > Bugs that occur on both live and PBE should be posted in your live region's Bug forum, while bugs that only occur on PBE should be posted in the [Bugs subcommunity](http://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/c/bugs). **** Since PBE is a place where changes are made, or test stuff out, have you tried changing the 'standard' red text in private chats into something more...... fitting? It is insufficient to deal with phishers/scammers, since they aren't impersonating Riot employee's very often, which I can actually prove ! **Please remember that Riot employees will never ask for your password when assisting you.** * "No one but you needs to know your password, not Riot, not your friend and especially not some shady website." * "You should never give away your password for any reason what so ever." * "The only one you should trust with your password, is yourself." **** Just something I made a while back and wanted to repost, as I assume you have a sense of humor, and the updated chat rooms require some guidelines at some point. **Rules for not displeasing Baron Nashor** 1. **Links** Posting malicious links, can result in an immediate suspension of your account, depending on the severity. Baron Nashor is always hungry and if you stray too close who knows what might happen. Pyramid scheme sites, are no longer welcome in our chat rooms These include, but are not limited to: "freeleaguepoints", "riotpointsgenerator", websites hosted at, freewebs, yolo, jimdo. 2. FLAMING Wearing a Sunfire Cape, and burning your fellow Summoners is ill advised, unless you would like to be executed. Since trolls have a notorious reputation for lashing out, they are advised to keep quiet or be nice unless they'd like to get eaten like Tibbers. 3. **Account security** The biggest threat to protecting your account is often yourself, never give away your password for any reason what so ever. Here is an example: If Twisted Fate wants to give you some RP, he can always gift it to you, if he ask for your password, it cannot be Twisted Fate, but has to be Mordekaiser, having enslaved his souls for the purpose of scamming you. 4. **Spamming** Baron Nashor learned that Summoners who spam makes excellent snacks as they won't be missed. So don't go around doing stuff like this: Posts that clearly advertise a service Repeated web site advertisements Scams, chain letters, and pyramid schemes Posting multiple short messages in succession One character messages Spelling out words vertically The use of repeated characters in excess ("freeeeeeeeeee rrrrrrrrrrrrrpppppppp") Unwarranted/excessive use of caps lock (SEVERAL MESSAGE IN ALL CAPS, MeSsAgeS IN altERNaTiNg CaPs, etc. 5. **Hacking** Since Baron Nashor is the biggest and meanest monster around these parts, he is always looking out for people trying to gain an unfair advantage, in order to get rid of the competition. As the Champions themselves also feel cheated, they would likely skin you alive if they found out Therefore any mentioning of how to abuse glitches or talk about hacking is a good way to draw unwanted attention to yourself. Summoners may not like snitches, but they hate cheaters more. **** A few facts: * I got a horrible track record with my regions bug report. > Example: >[Meddler](http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=4230568) on NA asking for help to fix Elise W bug > [Me](http://forums.eune.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=557298) having reported it at least a year earlier, and having to go through support, in order to reach out. * I've sent an obscene amount of scammer reports to Support, not individually thank the heavens.... no wait, that can't be used with you around. * I've signed an **NDA**, 'nuff said'. *** Kindda off topic but what the heck, might as well write these now that I'm writing this post. Corki's E **tooltip **Valkyrie something, is kindda insufficient, since I don't know how long the burning thingy last. Zac' ult **tooltip **say knockup, but that isn't strictly speaking true, since it 'knocks back' but I'm not quite sure how it work, since sometime people move very far, and other times, not so much, I think it has something to do with his size, and the proximity to people, could be because they're already airborne, dunno poke someone about it please. In ARAM when in the loading screen, you sometimes see these cool 'tips' unfortunately when they're white you can't read them, because of the new background. *** \*Start picking my nose\* Just look at the mess I've made of a post I wanted to be 'simple'.
: You get this error with both "/r PLayerNamer" and "/w Playername"? Code wise I do not thik it's a bug, but I can imagine that this is not intended. I do not know if something can be done about this, though.
It's on both live and PBE, my guess is that the friends system is antiquated, and when you load games one of the first thing it does is load your friends list, so when it is updated it doesn't register, and can cause some problems. One thing that could be done about it, is to remove the constraints from ingame, but let the client determine whether or not the individual is on the list at the time of texting.
Rioter Comments
: Thank you for the very detailed post. I'll pass this on to the guys that specifically manage those sites to hopefully make corrections soon! Apologies for the delayed response-- I've actually been working on Champ Updates for a while now after working on the PBE, so I didn't realize that this was posted at first.
No worries, your post was a year old, I had no idea whether or not you were still looking here, there's no rush to these things, and I quite often find 'discrepancies' posted at various websites on League (*Riot Moonleaf can attest to that) While on the subject on getting hold of that team, would it be possible to include a list of keywords in the FAQ while searching, especially for some of the more obscure terms such as: * Attack Animation * Animation cancelling/AA-attack cancelling * Wind down animation * "mesh" ? * Animation duration * Tooltip * AIR client (which part is this) * Client * Notification center (bottom right corner) * Ticker (Notification thingy next to the play button) There's also some bugs I can replicate on live without any problems, that I can't really find here, such as the one where you private message someone you accepted onto your friends list WHILE the match was loading, pretty obvious why really, but still annoying watching people write to you, and the /r function isn't working.
: [Client] Windows gives security warning about certificates
This may be just me, but could you please leave some more information? How did it happen, the method, which operating system you use, I'm not sure this is the right place to ask for a dxdiag, although it might help, but posting it here is ill adviced.
: If you haven't already read it, there's a super helpful thread [here](http://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/general-pbe-feedback/G2h6QTbN-useful-information-for-new-pbe-players) that I suggest you read. :) IIRC, a lot of botlane players (mainly supports) were chosen for the PBE recently--around February?--due to Bard (and possibly the DJ Sona skin), but someone can correct me if I'm wrong. The PBE isn't only for things like lane mechanics and/or game knowledge; for example, we have some new skins to test, and there's been an ARAM update (new summoner spells + updated Howling Abyss map). There are indeed chatrooms, and you can find other people to test with--as said in the PBE FAQ: > How can I find other testers on the PBE? > Join the "Public Chat 1" Chat Room on the PBE client to coordinate with other testers. You can take the following steps to auto-join this Chat Room when you login: > > 1. Upon starting up the PBE client go the "View your Chat Rooms Control Panel" button located in the center bottom of your friends list tab > 2. Click "Public Chat 1" to join the Chat Room > 3. Click the gear in the top right corner of the chat window > 4. Click the "Autojoin on Startup" Button
"Public Chat 1" Got it, good to know, but I was chosen after Bard was released, so I'm still wondering why, how, and so on, not that it matters right now it seems. The link you posted is already one I commented about. If you had a chance to look at [this](http://boards.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/champions-gameplay-en/mr8E2Vxb) I'd love to hear what you think of it.
: Yes, they can but they won't. Riot HQ with developers are located in North America and such thing as a Beta testing server should be as closer as posible available to maintaint for them. Also, relocating server would be waste of money and other resources. Simply, if you feel uncomfortable to play with 200 ping (which LoL is fully playable with), don't play here. No one is forcing you to play with 0.2 seconds delay which is not even half of a second.
I completely agree, this is PBE, not meant to be taken seriously, this is purely for testing purposes. However I have to admit that as a Draven main, I am having a tough time micro managing my axes.
Rioter Comments
: We've changed the visuals since Poro King so are very interested to hear feedback from you guys regarding that. Are the snowballs obvious enough (trail, model, hitbox, etc)? Was it easy to understand when someone dashed to you? Etc. I've personally been looking forward to this change very much. We saw good trends in _Legend of the Poro King_ making certain traditionally 'lame duck' Howling Abyss champions quite viable. It turns out all you need to smash a Sona is some extra hard engage. :)
I gotta admit, I was having trouble keeping tabs on a Lee, and all those jumps, sometimes he was way behind us, and used the Mark to hit someone way closer to their side allowing him to escape, which means the poro was going the 'wrong' way, so you never even realized what hit you in such an intense mode such at this. * Would it be able to have different colors depending on which side is throwing the snowballs? Have you considered increasing the cd significantly on that toss, cause right now it just seems way more intense than it ought to be, and I don't particularly enjoy dodging a toss on average every 4th sec or so, even when hiding way way behind the wave/tower, it may be cool for an event/mode but in the long run I will probably opt out completely of ARAM, simply because I burn out too fast.
: If you guys have additional suggestions for FAQs, please post them here!
Just signed up, waiting for the client to stop downloading so I can actually test/post stuff, so I did some digging on the website and found a bunch of bad links, and might as well write some other issues I've been pondering about for a while. Mind you, it's not easy to write in a notepad while making sure it conform to markdown. **** Reference link, mentioned in your 2 stickied threads. http://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/general-pbe-feedback/031P2FJX-faq-public-beta-environment http://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/general-pbe-feedback/G2h6QTbN-useful-information-for-new-pbe-players PBE FAQ http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/page/pbe-faq# Some of the links posted are invalid Let's start from the top. > **How do I update my contact email?** > [Player Support Knowledge Base article](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/201758664-General-Account-Information) > needs to be changed to this: > https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/201751934-General-Account-Information These are found in the "Tester bug reporting & feedback" > **How do I find logs to attach my bug reports?** > [PC testers](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/201760024-League-of-Legends-Logs) > Link can be applied to both Mac and PC now. > https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/201752674-Network-System-and-League-of-Legends-Logs Not too sure about this one > [Obtaining Dump files (Windows only)](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/201752204-Obtaining-a-Dump-File) > Got no clue what it's supposed to say. * Technical issues > **What should I do if I crash (bugsplat) on the PBE?** > [Player Support Knowledge Base article.](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/201752514-Bug-Splat-Solutions) > I'm guessing it is supposed to be this. > https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/201761974-Bug-Splat-and-Game-Crashes **** Considering I was accepted for this cycle, I'd love to know what is expected of me, and especially why I was picked for this cycle, I can't really find that information anywhere, and considering it is probably an automated system, it should be easy enough to figure out. I have a lot of experience in regards to bottom lane, but I don't see anything in this cycle pertaining to this, so how can I be of assistance? Also I am the author of [this](http://boards.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/champions-gameplay-en/mr8E2Vxb) so I can make a decent evaluation in regards to lane types, poke, sustain, and burst. **** I'd love to talk about Scammers, spammers, the spambots in the comments section whenever there is new content on the front pages of each region. Usually you can spot the spammers/scammers pretty easily, but I noticed a new trend, I would like to highlight, and hopefully deal with before it becomes too complex or widespread. > hey guys, who was watching imaqtpie stream today? he was talking he got a 15$ paysafecard code but i don`t remember the site.. may u help me pls? and is this still working or not? > > **Naming and shaming** > >Here u go my friend ;)Site Ye its still working imo. Got the code literally 15 minutes ago without issues ;) > > **Naming and shaming** I believe a report function would work pretty well, and in some cases monitor some of these bots and their behaviour would give a far better picture of how they behave. **** About a year ago there was an announcement about chatrooms and whatnot, is there any news on that front that is available on the PBE, and if no, is there a chance to test it at some point? **** What about coordination with other players, I have some things I would like to test, including a bug I encountered about 1½ ago with Varus ult vs Anivia (egg) but it requires at least 3 people or more. So what I'm asking is, are the chatrooms readily available? **** I noticed some similar threads about the PBE FaQ thread. * http://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/site-feedback/XJ2NE5EE-minor-content-discrepancy-in-the-pbe-faq * http://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/site-feedback/sOvlfXQU-pbe-faq-not-updated * These are about the now missing Rune Combiner. * http://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/site-feedback/yaembLy7-mac-testers-faq * Incorrect link **** I'd just like to point out that these are some of the concerns I've had, and I would've loved to see a bit more diverse answers in the FAQ thread, I mentioned at the top.

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