: still no rioter comments? >.> whats the point in giving feedback if there are no rioters constantly monitoring these posts, its like they put these up for every skin, and then wait until the final week to respond to people saying theres not enough time to tweak or add certain things...
I feel like lately this has been the case with every skin. There used to be a time where feedback was heard and skins actually got tweaked based on feedback... Not anymore. I think the last one I can remember that actually changed for the better with feedback was Little Demon Tristana...
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Splendid Staff Nami!
As others have said, her splash art is... Disappointing. Most of the criticism is about her face, which, I agree completely, but I don't think it's the only issue. I think the lightning of the art is also very bad. I get that it's supposed to be nighttime, but, it just seems waaay too dark, washed out and desaturated. And when the skin itself is a super colorful one, that choice doesn't seem to make sense. It's like giving a super colorful, bright and vibrant splash to a Coven skin for example. The splash art needs to sell the skin, and this dark desaturated splash doesn't sell the brigh colorful Splendid Staff Nami se see in-game. It also doesn't fit with the style of Morgana and Riven's splashes either. So, basically, here's a little edit: https://i.imgur.com/8OpRc59.png[/img] And a comparison gif: https://i.imgur.com/RNXJRLZ.gif[/img] I think it's still very clearly night. But the lightning is a bit more flattering to the colors.
: I will agree that her face in the splash art needs some minor adjustment. I appreciate what you were going for with the star pupils, but the shape needs to be sharpened and shrunk a tad so it looks less dead-eyed and more like a pupil. Perhaps adjusting the colors for her iris and pupil so they contrast more would also help in this endeavor. Her emotes and recall animations are clean. I adore her frog; the use of his bouncing on her Q is precious. Q is absolutely top notch. W is beautiful. I like the colored double. Also love the auto-attack/passive animations. They read super clearly--thank you for that. The E is alright. Something about the representation of the star feels odd, like it's a bit chunky, and perhaps the binds should be more transparent, in line with the visual effects of other Star Guardian skins, but this is a minor thought. Neeko's ult could use slight tweaking to emphasize the star when she lands--perhaps brighten it? As it currently stands, the ribbons feel more important than the star insignia, and that doesn't feel quite right. It would also be appreciated if the sound for her ult could be adjusted to more closely resemble the timing for her ult in her base and winter skins. As it is now, the timing feels slightly odd after becoming accustomed to the previous alternatives. It feels like there is more of a pause between the tinkling sound and the final drop than usual. I have seen many comments on the color schemes for this group--while it may seem like a lot, I quite like Neeko's color scheme. It follows Ahri's team's tendency to have *2* principle colors. MF was orange and red, Ahri was pink and purple, Ezreal was blue and yellow, Soraka was bright teal and a muted blue-green. Syndra was the only 1 to really have a single principle color from that line, and it makes sense to me for this new batch that was Ahri's former team to follow suit. Those color schemes did tend to be more analogous, though, whereas this batch is more contrasting. I do also understand the concerns of many that there is too much overlap in the colors for the current iteration of the skin line, as there is a lot of pink/green/purple use across the 4 skins, and I do think limiting some of the colors to make each of them feel more unique is a good idea. I am still waiting to see the Prestige Edition on PBE to get a feel for how that one compares, too.
> It follows Ahri's team's tendency to have 2 principle colors. MF was orange and red, Ahri was pink and purple, Ezreal was blue and yellow, Soraka was bright teal and a muted blue-green. Well, except Neeko has much more than two colors... Her hair and skirt are a salmon pink/orange gradient, most of her outfit is a teal green, her star is lime green, and her tail is a dark reddish pink. Oh, and the vfx has all of those + yellow. There's also the fact that, unlike Ahri, MF, Soraka and Ezreal, the color of her star gem isn't her main one. In fact the color of her star isn't present in the rest of her outfit AT ALL.
: Good day! Star Guardian Neeko is an absolute cutie! As an aspiring Neeko main, I wanted to try and contribute my two cents to the upcoming skin and encourage the Skin Development team - hopefully what I'm about to say is clear enough. 1. Although her color palette is definitely unorthodox when compared to seasons 1 and 2 of Star Guardian, honestly the change is pleasant surprise. Imagine exercising the same formula consistently over the course of a few years, with little to no deviation. The new sample of color coordination and combinations present within her outfit (such as her pink and yellow ability VFX) and even the mixtures in her hair make for a really Neeko-eqsue feel, similar to her classic model with its own variety of color symbolizing the variety in Ixtal. Admittedly, if she is to be tied to the damaged yellow gem Ahri holds within the teaser, she doesn't seem to have enough yellow, or the amount that she contains in her in-game model (the glow of her tail during her E and headpiece on her W passive is really inventive!) is overshadowed by the primary color of her outfit, which appears to be green. 2. Regarding her splash-art: the rainbow palette is really evident from the gradient of red, yellow, and green faint in her hair, to even the shadows and highlights on her body. However, her face looks slightly off. It's as if she's smirking, with the stiffness of her eyebrows and how one is sharply crooked while the other is relatively flat. As Neeko has typically been portrayed as this childish, inquisitive venturer (as can be seen in her classic and Winter Wonderland splashes, with wide eyes and open mouth), her new expression appears out of character. I'm not suggesting that a change in expression isn't favorable, more that the current expression she forms doesn't seem like one Neeko would make. Some people have stated that her eyes lack pupils, and that they would be a helpful addition to give her visage some more life. Her freckles/face marks also are missing, and it would be really neat if they could be added to match her source material and previous skin. Hopefully what I said didn't come off as rude or demanding. I'm glad that the Skin Dev team at Riot is experimenting with current universes and adding in new content, while expanding the storylines they've already established. Looking forward to the SG release!
"Although her color palette is definitely unorthodox when compared to seasons 1 and 2 of Star Guardian, honestly the change is pleasant surprise. Imagine exercising the same formula consistently over the course of a few years, with little to no deviation." Here's the thing... We didn't have any yellow Star Guardians in the other times. The previous formula was a team of 5 with a Pink/Red/Blue/Purple/Green color scheme. A yellow or orange Star Guardian would actually be deviating the norm, and with Xayah, Rakan and Zoe being corrupted and looking completely different from other SG skins, Yellow Neeko could exist with none of the new Star Guardians having the same color or looking similar to the previous 10! Instead, if anything, she looks more similar to Poppy and Soraka.
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Star Guardian Neeko
As others have said... She needs to be more yellow. Xayah and Rakan are also from Ahri's old team, and on their uncorrupted forms(as we see on their recalls), Xayah has the green star gem and some green on her outfit, and while Rakan has the blue star, his outfit also gas green. Honestly, as someone who has been wanting a yellow Star Guardian since the beginning, I was so disappointed. One of Ahri's teammate had this gold star, but... Then it's this super green not yellow at all Neeko? I feel conned. Now... I can already see a possible problem and a possible reason for you guys to not want to make her more yellow "It's gonna look too similar to Prestige Edition!". I also imagine that, just changing all the green to yellow would be just impossible as it would deviate too much from the idea of the skin, and maybe actually look too much like Prestige. So, well... I have an idea, and an edit. Basically, yellow/orange is often paired together and somewhat interchangeable in mahou shoujo teams. Examples: [Sailor Venus from Sailor Moon](https://kodanshacomics.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/9781612620015.jpg), [Cure Twinkle from Go! Princess Precure](https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/prettycure/images/f/f1/CureTwinkle_%26_Kirara.png), [Cure Pine from Suite Precure](http://static2.minitokyo.net/view/37/31/711587.jpg). And as we are now, we ALSO don't have any Orange Star Guardians. Plenty of green, no Yellow or Orange. So, Prestige Neeko... She doesn't have orange at all. She has a very light yellow color mixed with pink... Oh, pink, that color that regular Star Guardian Neeko has in her hair, skirt and tail along with the orange. https://i.imgur.com/8zQAo7L.png[/img] Prestige SG Neeko hair: Yellow with pink highlights Current Regular SG Neeko hair: Pink with a touch of orange gradient. Edited Regular SG Neeko hair: Orange with a touch of yello gradient. I don't think this more orange tone is similar to Prestige at all. And Prestige actually has some pink so taking that away a bit actually makes them slightly more distinct. So her tail. Prestige SG Neeko: Lighter Pink tail Current Regular SG Neeko: Darker Pink tail Edited Regular SG Neeko: Orange tail Prestige SG Neeko: Pink skirt Current Regular SG Neeko: Pink to orange gradient skirt. Edited Regular SG Neeko: Orange to yellow gradient skirt. So, the proposed orange color for the tail and the orange/yellow for the skirt makes her MORE different from Prestige. Her collar: Currently, the green color of her collar mixes up with the green part of her hair that is right next to it. It's also close to her green bow, making it a lot of green in the same direction. The idea is that instead of matching the green parts of her outfits, her collar matches her skirt and hair. The collar also stands out a lot more this way. And finally her star gems, on her head and chest. [The star gemwe see on Ahri's hand on the teaser is NOT lime green. It's very clearly a yellow/gold color](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ECwBRGKU4AAZ17f.jpg). I also tried to make them more of an orange/dark yellow-lighter yellow gradient. Prestige Neeko could have her star gems be pink instead. Since regular SG Neeko is the canon one in the SG universe, she should be the one with the yellow gem, and since Prestige isn't part of the canon it doesn't matter that others already have pink stars(and uncorrupted Xayah and regular Neeko are both different tones of green anyway, soo...). Final touch, though that's much less important and I almost didn't addd: Changed her eyes to yellow too... It actually makes the clover on her eyes more noticeable. Could also make the clover yellow, but I guess tht doesn't make sense lol.
: Pantheon Rework Bug Reports
...Can we use this thread for feedback too? Since there isn't one :( So, Pantheon's in-game model has chest/abs hair, but that's missing on the splash art. I really hope it can be added. I feel like that's a pretty considerable discrepancy? Cause his body hair in-game is quite noticeable, and from all angles. Besides that, I also feel like the splash(as incredible as it is) doesn't do his physique justice. The arms are huuge, but his torso not as much. And I'd love if he had leg hair(in the model, in that case), to make him maaanly. But that's pretty subjective stuff, the chest hair at least I feel like objectively it should be there in the splash, as it's already part of the model(and I'd say more than just a little detail as it's quite prominent).
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Demacia Vice Garen!
His gloves and belt look 100% pink on the splash art. I think they would look better pink in the model too, matching the glasses and sword. If you guys really think it should be red though, I guess making it look red on the splash would be fine too, just don't have it so mismatched.
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Little Demon Tristana
I feel like her fangs are a bit too big? They don't even end at her bottom lip when her mouth's closed, they go beyond that all the way down to her chin.
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Little Demon Tristana Chromas!
Outside of the Rose Quartz and Aquamarine ones, her skin in the chromas is just too dark. She looks absolutely demonic, but not in a good way like the default LOL.
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Battle Academia Katarina
I like that you guys added more pink to it, but I feel like the particles on her daggers(mostly late after Q-ing as they're about to vanish) on the ground are a bit too much? Like, just compare it to all of Kat's other skins. They are so much more visible and prominent and vibrant and... Everything. It's a lot easier for enemies to notice it and it feels like a bit of a disavantage to have the daggers bring so much attention to themselves.
: Just like with lunar empress, as opposed to star guardian there is no homeguard animation or new dance or new idle. People were complaining last time since 1350rp skins have these stuff, so it would be better if those were added or else it would be another 975 skin priced at 1350
Most 1350 skins don't have a new homeguard animation or new idle. SG Lux only has that cause she's part of the SG line where everyone has the flying homeguards(and some/most have a new idle too because reasons).
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Battle Academia Katarina
Really love this skin! The one thing I missed, looking at her skin spotlight, was... Some pink on her ult. Her model has a loot of pink, and we have it on her abilities too when she picks up a dagger... I really thought it would only be appropriate for pink to be on her ult as well. Hm, If I had to say one more thing...Looking at her splash, her eyes there look more like a grey tone than blue... Compared to the model, icon and emote that all have a veeery vibrant aqua blue. Nothing significant but just a little detail I noticed lool.
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Invictus Gaming Skins
Again, Irelia's boots are wrong on the splash art. Even the action figure is different(more like the in-game version): https://i.imgur.com/fj99AmU.jpg[/img] https://i.imgur.com/ybOFQAX.png[/img]
: Hey all! We've got some feedback updates for you on some of our Invictus Gaming skins! Camille: Camille's passive VFX has been updated! https://imgur.com/a/EogD32W https://imgur.com/a/AP4owBh https://imgur.com/a/66vong0 Kai'sa: Kai'sa's shield has been darkened! https://imgur.com/a/LxVf4zo LeBlanc: As mentioned by Riot Beardilocks, Leblanc has darker makeup added to the splash and model. Please let us know if you have any further questions or feedback. Thanks!
Well any chance you're gonna check about Irelia's boots? I explained how they're totally different on splash vs model :(
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: K/DA Evelynn Prestige Edition!
I really wish her hair was a red/orange/pink-ish tone like Prestige K/DA Akali. I feel like it would be much more cooler and make more sense to have duos of two blondes(Kai'Sa and Ahri) and two "gingers"(Akali and Evelynn) than just 3 blondes with only Akali standing out with a different hair color.
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Invictus Gaming Skins
Irelia's boots in-game have two tones of grey, a lighter one on the "inside" with some darker patterns around, and then a part of the pattern goes all the way down to the bottom part, where her feet are, and it's all dark there. While on the splash art they're all white, like, in the same tone as her dress(even the lighter tone on the boots doesn't match with the dress in-game), the darker partners are only there on the top while the bottom part with her feet are white, or at least the same as the light parts while only the little "heel" is a dark grey. https://i.imgur.com/ybOFQAX.png/img] I like both versions but either one or the other should be tweaked for consistency.
: Pentakill Kayle Splash Art is missing one thing.
Pls Riot x.x I know it's not a big deal, but... 1 - It's an actual inconsistency rather than just a "I wish it was like that" kind of thing. 2 - It's SUPER quick to do! There's still time. 3 - Well, it does look better with it imo, though as I said on #1, that probably shouldn't be the main factor lol.
: just noticed how unreal her neck looks lol, its so thin and long oh wait https://i.redd.it/z6uflws6sdh21.jpg but yes the collar/choker thing would improve it
Since her neck is so big, the things she wears on her neck are even more important Riot! Please...
: Correction, it's missing two things. The in-game model has her with pointy ears. The splash does not. Heads up Riot. Also, the in-game face model looks nothing like this whatsoever. Even from a distance she looks alien. the face needs work in general. It doesn't match _any_ of the skins except the base.
Oh I hadn't even noticed the pointy ears. Would be nice if Riot added that too. Though I feel like that's something even smaller and more hard to notice than, well, the whole black collar/choker/fabric thing on her neck being missing. About the face, I don't think Riot really tries to match facial features between art and model much, as it's more of a matter of art style.
: Kayle Gameplay Feedback + PBE changelogs
So, a lot of people are using this to give feedback about her skins and stuff, so, I'm gonna do the same, sorry if I really shouldn't. So, about Pentakill Kayle. This is actually an issue that was already there before the rework and has always bothered me, but, Kayle is lacking her... Collar? I'm not sure how to call it, but, on her model she has this kind of acessory on her chest with a black fabric or so around her neck. Except that on the splash art she doesn't have it, her neck is naked. I think it looks better with the black thing around it, and besides that I also feel like this really should be changed because it's not just something subjective but an actual inconsistency between model and art. A little edit to show it: https://i.imgur.com/3BIy325.png[/img] https://i.imgur.com/Kktg2ta.gif[/img] [Full version gif comparison](https://i.imgur.com/XamFvBa.gif), [Still splash edited](https://i.imgur.com/rYfSY5p.jpg).
Rioter Comments
: Kayle Gameplay Feedback + PBE changelogs
Is there no thread for feedback on her skins?
: Hey guys, responded below but it seems alot of people want some flowers in other places, moreso her ult. We will see what we can do, thanks everyone
Put the dead black flowers on it instead of the red ones.
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Pajama Guardians!
So, I think you guys might be using a wrong/outdated texture for Ezreal? I remember that, when his rework was first teased, his face on Star Guardian looked a bit weird on the rework trailer video, a loot more older and sharp than on all the other skins. Whoever was responsible for his rework's skins fixed it before it went to PBE(they said so on Ez Mains reddit), and the skin has been fine like that ever since. Now looking at the picture for Pajama Ez, I instantly thought it looked a lot like that original trailer version. I went to both his skin spotlight videos, and I think I'm right. This is his current face texture: https://teemo.gg/model-viewer?skinid=81018 I think this should be fixed/changed not only so that the skins match(not sure if that's supposed to be a priority or not), but really because his current face is really weird and doesn't fit Ez, especially on a cute pajama skin like that. It did get FIXED(with those words rather than "changed" or "updated" for a reason.
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Lunar Eclipse Leona!
I think her ult VFX feels a bit underwhelming when compared to Solar. Besides that, those two are just perfect!
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Pajama Guardians!
First of all, I'm so glad about the new discount, thanks for listening. Now, sorry that this is probably not good feedback again(sigh)... But why did you guys chose this specific group of champions for this? Like, why not just one of the teams and then the other later one? Or even just not another random selection? I really wanted a Jinx one x.x And I ship her and Lux on this line so even if she gets one later, I really wanted them together on the shared splash x.x Sorry for the lowkey rant lol.
: Hello again everyone! After considering your feedback and talking together as a team, we have decided to make a price adjustment to the Variants. PBE is always a forum for us to respond to your feedback. This is especially important when we’re trying out new products. We put a lot of thought into the 30% discount: including running player labs, number-crunching, and looking at the effort our artists put into the skins. We still believe in the value of these skins. That said, we hear you: 30% feels bad. So we’re changing it. Both Eclipse Leonas and Pajama Guardian Variants will be discounted now at 45% if you own the other one. So, if you own one Eclipse Leona, the other will cost 1001 RP (2821 RP for both). If you own one Star/Pajama Guardian, you’ll get its counterpart for 742 RP (2092 RP for both) Again, thanks for your feedback on this one. It matters, and we appreciate it.
: Nah skins like Ionian yi are 975 and the base model is almost the same so 750 is the right way to go
That skin and those like that are old and were made before Riot changed their policy. From around 2013 or so, they decided that from that point on, all skins that didn't change anything but the model were 750 and 975 were the ones who had at least VFX differences.
: The skins got new VFX when compared to the original and the models look more detailed then normal 750 skins but I think 945rp is still to expensive. But I actually miss the 750rp skins the were kinda cool...
There's no such thing as "the model looks more detailed". 750 skins don't have a objectively better or worse models. They're supposed to be the same as the other skins except that they don't have new VFX. Just like Pajama variants don't have new VFX for people who already have the original Star Guardians. The price is only too expensive for those who already own them.
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Pajama Guardians!
As I said on other posts: 945 RP for people who already own the original skins is way too much. Skins that only change the model and splash art are priced 750 RP. And those actually come with a completely new design, not just an old one with different clothing. 1350 for people who don't own the original is fine. But for people who already have them, they already payed for most of the content that those are offering. Those should be 750 maximum.
: The asking price of around 900 RP is absurd. For around the same price someone could buy Justicar Syndra, BM Evelynn, or even Crabgot which have vastly different particles and models. Rebuying the same skin for such a price doesn't make sense. The base price without the originals is fair, but paying so much for some edits to skins we already own is just a no. Using wishful thinking, I'd love them at a 520 RP price, but 750 RP is fair.
I think 520 could be fair too if you consider that the designs are already super similar, while other 750 RP skins have a completely new ones. But considering only the "different model = 750 RP" logic, 750 seems fair. Just not 900 like they're charging lol.
: Thanks for the feedback. Not to get to technical, but there is significantly more work on these than in Chromas. Chromas are just a texture re-color, For the Pajama guardians they are getting a full new model, which also sometimes require tweaks to the rig and animation. For Leona she has a different recall, models (both base and after the ult), and VFX set.
As I said on another comment: Skins with complete new models, but no new VFX/SFX, traditionally cost 750 RP. Not 945. This discount is still too low, even if we're not comparing it to chromas.
: Introducing Variants: Pajama Guardians & Solar and Lunar Eclipse Leona
The Star Guardian variants are way too expensive for people who already own the original ones. It's the same effects and VFX. It should be at least 750 RP. That is how much skins with new models but no new effects have always cost. I don't see why should those be any more expensive, considering the designs are even more similar than usual 750 RP skins(again, I mean for people who already own the traditional Star Guardians).
: > I'd like to point out two things real quick; first of all, just "trash the skin" isn't constructive. Constructive is about "i don't like X for reason Y, and Z is how I think it can be improved." Exactly this. While yes, 'this is trash' shows your distaste with a skin, but if we're going to ship the skin (which 99% of the time we do), we'd like to know what specifically you don't like so we can discuss potential tweaks. If nothing else, it can help us better inform the choices we make for future skins. > Secondly, it's great that Fairy Flan is showing interest towards what the LeBlanc mains would rather see, but it's much more likely to see one of those suggestions become a new skin in the (potentially far away) future and not a replacement of the current Program one. That's correct, we aren't scrapping Program LeBlanc for another skin, it's more of a question of what would you like to see in the future if robots aren't your jam. > I've been trying to find the "Sewn Chaos is cancelled" thread, but if I recall correctly Riot mentioned they were already far in the process of "hey are we cancelling these?" by the time the skins hit PBE. There were talks prior to PBE about if these were hitting were hitting the quality bar, yes. It was something that we admittedly should have called out/discussed sooner, before it hit PBE. > Edit: don't get me wrong, I don't mean to take anything away from the concerns you raise. We all have opinions and we all deserve to be heard on them - I just feel like opinions have to be clarified as much as possible. 100% agree with this. Please share your thoughts, but be specific in your like/dislikes!
I think that what makes people most upset, in LeBlanc's case more than Nami, is that they feel like now they're probably gonna have to wait years for a skin they actually like. They had to wait years for her to be reverted already, and now that she is they're all passionate about playing her again, and so a new skin for her is something that they have been anticipating and that should have been a great moment. But then you guys made one with a theme that doesn't resonate at all with most of her playerbase, and it really feels like a blow in the face.
I think you're trying to say "That skin doesn't match LeBlanc". "Combine" is not the english translation of combina in portuguese.
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Program LeBlanc!
Unfortunately I guess I don't have any useful feedback for the actual skin... Basically, I just don't see how Riot thought Program LeBlanc was the best idea... And I mean in both "Why LeBlanc of all people for the Program line?" and "Why Program of all lines for Leblanc?" ways. Does Riot just not think about the audience for a skin at all? Something like "I guess Star Guardian would be popular between Ahri players"(Mentioning a supposedly good fit here). This really got me thinking. I don't think LeBlanc mains are into this theme at all. If you ask any LB player which skin they would have for LB like, yesterday, no one would say Program. You can see a lot of discontentment on reddit and other social media, there's probably more people disappointed that she's more likely not gonna get another skin for a while now than people actually excited for this. And, I imagine the people who are into the Program line(who I feel like it's not that much people, this line is far from being on Star Guardian/Project/Arcade/Pulsefire level of popularity) is also not that into LB.
Rioter Comments
: Personally I like how her gun is at the moment making the gun purple too would make it boring looking to me. :)
"Boring-looking" it's a weird idea. Purple, at least on that tone, it's still a pretty vibrant color. Gangplank's gun matches the colors on the skin. Do you think that's boring? The huge pink part doesn't match the rest of the skin, not only on the literal sense that there's no pink on her outfit, but that the pink feels weirdly out of place when put right next to her model considering all the tones on it(hair,bikini,accesories,skin). Zoe's skin has lots of different colors on her body, but here, it's just the gun. Instead of the whole skin feeling like all like a rainbow, it feels like the gun it's a totally separate piece instead of part of the puzzle on the whole thing. AND you can barely see it on the splash art.
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Pool Party and Headhunter Akali Chromas!
I feel like Rose Quartz Caitlyn could have the same hair color as Rose Quartz Taric, this sort of grey-ish blonde. I think it fits the pastel colors very well, matches with another chroma from the same "line", and Catseye and Aquamarine already have some brownish tones, while a lighter one like that is missing(the Ruby's hair is like suuuper yellow, not really the same).
: Pool Party Caitlyn
Hi, well I love this skin, but one thing that has been bugging me a lot is her gun. Specifically, the fact that the gun doesn't match her clothes AT ALL. I'm assuming that it was made like this for the skin to be more colorful, but, I think it's really jarring right now. I made an edit changing it from pink to purple. I think it still looks pretty colorful and vibrant like that, while matching the other colors a lot more. Because there's blue and yellow on it + her hair is darker and the hat/cape/etc are all white I don't think it's too much purple. https://i.imgur.com/xG80gwX.png[/img] https://i.imgur.com/Z4wj8MC.png[/img] It would also look much better on the splash art. The way it is right now, the float is the same color as the pink part of the gun and the gun it's not so visible. https://i.imgur.com/LR0rLC7.png[/img]
: Akali skins are all green now i guess
Well Tamar, have you read her lore? /jk
: We felt this was most appropriate for her in this particular thematic, they're all ready for battle and off for adventure.
Well, I can understand that, but I'd argue that Rakan has a whole side of his chest and an arm showing. Still really think it would be good to take away the "pile of blue" feeling she kinda has now...
: Hi hi! I appreciate the feedback! Happy to provide a bit of context around these. > EZREAL: Welp, the concept art looks like more... Clean? Like, the blue hair is great, but, he fits more with an lighter hair, like the blue ezreal ~chroma~ skin. Maybe a Light Platinum hair style fits better on him. We felt there was a big overlap with Frosted, another skin with a blue outfit and light hair. The concept in this case was purely directional and was what we showed to the players super early on to ask if what we had concepted matched with what they had in mind. > TALIYAH: The most beautiful model, the worst one with effects. 1- WHERE'S THE SFX???? SHE USES THE BASE SFX??????? REALLY? Rakan's one uses A LOT of SFX, and a skin i've been waiting FOR YEARS have less custom sfx than the Freiljord one?? 2- The VFX for the passive and ultimate was great! But, i feel the Q and E doesn't have "blue things" enough. She REALLY needs something "lighter", something that will bright more than her blue and fantastic scarf. The model of that skin doesn't match with de FX, and doesn't like to be priced with 1350 RP, like the Xayah/Rakan ones. She does have custom SFX. If they're playing base, this is a bug. > XAYAH: DELIGHTFUL, REALLY DELIGHTFUL. i'm the globglogabgalab, i love books. The best xayah skin since today. BUT, like ezreal, hair it could be... Dark blue, or a lighter blue. White hair didn't look great with her. We heard player feedback last time on the Sweetheart skins that they were too opposite and should match more. We were hesitant because they have similar cape reads. We pushed them closer together, but for the sake of having them still be clear as to who was who at a glance, we opted to give Xayah white hair.
I'm one of those people who wished Sweetheart Rakan and Xayah matched a bit more, and I'm glad that this time they're closer! Thanks for taking that into consideration.
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: SSG Skins
Ok, I looked at the concept art and compared now, and I have a question... Why does Xayah have her legs covered? I don't understand. I think the skin would look better if it showed a little skin. She's like covered from head to toe, nothing you can see besides the face... I think it would add a more feminine touch and even make things more clear on the design(I think it actually seems kinda hard to even realize she has pants, when she's already covered in blue on the rest of the outfit).
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: SSG Skins
I know you can't change the color entirely, but I think Xayah's ears could use just a little more blue. Make it more gradient, instead of just a blue tip at the top, which is what it looks like now and it's kinda weird imo.
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Profile Background Picker!
Could the current backgrounds for ultimate icons be lined up with these? Lux and Sona look much better with this than with the icon equipped.
: Hey friends, sorry I'm late, I didn't mean the changes to blindside anybody, here to explain why: About the horn changes we agreed on what most of you guys said about it clicking too lunar wraith-y and felt having a more gold would not only reduce that vibe, but give it higher Blood Moon resemblance. Thanks for letting us know! About the white/off-pink hair, we considered this but like I said yesterday, it blends in with Blood Moon Eve's paler skin too much at game height. About adding kimono sleeves, we also considered this but admire her current short kimono: Japanese-style wrap with obi sash and back ribbon. Also adding kimono sleeves would takeaway from her demon hands/claws -- too much going on. Thank you so much for all the feedback and really sorry not all of you are happy. I promise we tried our best, we took a whole day's worth of dev time if not more mulling over feedback, including trying them out. We really like how she looks now and fits into the Blood Moon thematic.
So, I really like the changes. The new horn and hair colors look great imo... The only thing though: Shouldn't her lashes be updated too to match the very red hair now? I feel like those two colors matching makes the skin all more... cohesive? It felt a bit eeehh with the more pink tone, but the red tone now really pops and I think it would make it all more appealing.
: Dropping the mana regen on frostfang and making tear cost more is gonna be pretty rough for Sona... I'm sure the other supports will be fine, but man, that's a little too harsh on Sona with no compensation.
They barely thought of the AP supports... Ugh, Sona is on such a bad state already :(
: keep in mind they also work on making bot lane not adc only place. So it'll impact adc too. But this thread isn't related to adc. Don't get emotional when its still in test.
It's stupid to make bot lane not adc only. It's either just not gonna work or be completely terrible for ADCs.
: Mana changes coming to PBE today
Yeah, sure, let's just destroy mages completely. I'm sure that won't have a negative impact. And also, screw all the AP supports with it, great.
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