: Personally I like how her gun is at the moment making the gun purple too would make it boring looking to me. :)
"Boring-looking" it's a weird idea. Purple, at least on that tone, it's still a pretty vibrant color. Gangplank's gun matches the colors on the skin. Do you think that's boring? The huge pink part doesn't match the rest of the skin, not only on the literal sense that there's no pink on her outfit, but that the pink feels weirdly out of place when put right next to her model considering all the tones on it(hair,bikini,accesories,skin). Zoe's skin has lots of different colors on her body, but here, it's just the gun. Instead of the whole skin feeling like all like a rainbow, it feels like the gun it's a totally separate piece instead of part of the puzzle on the whole thing. AND you can barely see it on the splash art.
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Pool Party and Headhunter Akali Chromas!
I feel like Rose Quartz Caitlyn could have the same hair color as Rose Quartz Taric, this sort of grey-ish blonde. I think it fits the pastel colors very well, matches with another chroma from the same "line", and Catseye and Aquamarine already have some brownish tones, while a lighter one like that is missing(the Ruby's hair is like suuuper yellow, not really the same).
: Pool Party Caitlyn
Hi, well I love this skin, but one thing that has been bugging me a lot is her gun. Specifically, the fact that the gun doesn't match her clothes AT ALL. I'm assuming that it was made like this for the skin to be more colorful, but, I think it's really jarring right now. I made an edit changing it from pink to purple. I think it still looks pretty colorful and vibrant like that, while matching the other colors a lot more. Because there's blue and yellow on it + her hair is darker and the hat/cape/etc are all white I don't think it's too much purple. https://i.imgur.com/xG80gwX.png[/img] https://i.imgur.com/Z4wj8MC.png[/img] It would also look much better on the splash art. The way it is right now, the float is the same color as the pink part of the gun and the gun it's not so visible. https://i.imgur.com/LR0rLC7.png[/img]
: Akali skins are all green now i guess
Well Tamar, have you read her lore? /jk
: We felt this was most appropriate for her in this particular thematic, they're all ready for battle and off for adventure.
Well, I can understand that, but I'd argue that Rakan has a whole side of his chest and an arm showing. Still really think it would be good to take away the "pile of blue" feeling she kinda has now...
: Hi hi! I appreciate the feedback! Happy to provide a bit of context around these. > EZREAL: Welp, the concept art looks like more... Clean? Like, the blue hair is great, but, he fits more with an lighter hair, like the blue ezreal ~chroma~ skin. Maybe a Light Platinum hair style fits better on him. We felt there was a big overlap with Frosted, another skin with a blue outfit and light hair. The concept in this case was purely directional and was what we showed to the players super early on to ask if what we had concepted matched with what they had in mind. > TALIYAH: The most beautiful model, the worst one with effects. 1- WHERE'S THE SFX???? SHE USES THE BASE SFX??????? REALLY? Rakan's one uses A LOT of SFX, and a skin i've been waiting FOR YEARS have less custom sfx than the Freiljord one?? 2- The VFX for the passive and ultimate was great! But, i feel the Q and E doesn't have "blue things" enough. She REALLY needs something "lighter", something that will bright more than her blue and fantastic scarf. The model of that skin doesn't match with de FX, and doesn't like to be priced with 1350 RP, like the Xayah/Rakan ones. She does have custom SFX. If they're playing base, this is a bug. > XAYAH: DELIGHTFUL, REALLY DELIGHTFUL. i'm the globglogabgalab, i love books. The best xayah skin since today. BUT, like ezreal, hair it could be... Dark blue, or a lighter blue. White hair didn't look great with her. We heard player feedback last time on the Sweetheart skins that they were too opposite and should match more. We were hesitant because they have similar cape reads. We pushed them closer together, but for the sake of having them still be clear as to who was who at a glance, we opted to give Xayah white hair.
I'm one of those people who wished Sweetheart Rakan and Xayah matched a bit more, and I'm glad that this time they're closer! Thanks for taking that into consideration.
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: SSG Skins
Ok, I looked at the concept art and compared now, and I have a question... Why does Xayah have her legs covered? I don't understand. I think the skin would look better if it showed a little skin. She's like covered from head to toe, nothing you can see besides the face... I think it would add a more feminine touch and even make things more clear on the design(I think it actually seems kinda hard to even realize she has pants, when she's already covered in blue on the rest of the outfit).
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: SSG Skins
I know you can't change the color entirely, but I think Xayah's ears could use just a little more blue. Make it more gradient, instead of just a blue tip at the top, which is what it looks like now and it's kinda weird imo.
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Profile Background Picker!
Could the current backgrounds for ultimate icons be lined up with these? Lux and Sona look much better with this than with the icon equipped.
: Hey friends, sorry I'm late, I didn't mean the changes to blindside anybody, here to explain why: About the horn changes we agreed on what most of you guys said about it clicking too lunar wraith-y and felt having a more gold would not only reduce that vibe, but give it higher Blood Moon resemblance. Thanks for letting us know! About the white/off-pink hair, we considered this but like I said yesterday, it blends in with Blood Moon Eve's paler skin too much at game height. About adding kimono sleeves, we also considered this but admire her current short kimono: Japanese-style wrap with obi sash and back ribbon. Also adding kimono sleeves would takeaway from her demon hands/claws -- too much going on. Thank you so much for all the feedback and really sorry not all of you are happy. I promise we tried our best, we took a whole day's worth of dev time if not more mulling over feedback, including trying them out. We really like how she looks now and fits into the Blood Moon thematic.
So, I really like the changes. The new horn and hair colors look great imo... The only thing though: Shouldn't her lashes be updated too to match the very red hair now? I feel like those two colors matching makes the skin all more... cohesive? It felt a bit eeehh with the more pink tone, but the red tone now really pops and I think it would make it all more appealing.
: Dropping the mana regen on frostfang and making tear cost more is gonna be pretty rough for Sona... I'm sure the other supports will be fine, but man, that's a little too harsh on Sona with no compensation.
They barely thought of the AP supports... Ugh, Sona is on such a bad state already :(
: keep in mind they also work on making bot lane not adc only place. So it'll impact adc too. But this thread isn't related to adc. Don't get emotional when its still in test.
It's stupid to make bot lane not adc only. It's either just not gonna work or be completely terrible for ADCs.
: Mana changes coming to PBE today
Yeah, sure, let's just destroy mages completely. I'm sure that won't have a negative impact. And also, screw all the AP supports with it, great.
Rioter Comments
: that's some great feedback, thanks! i'll let the team know and we'll talk about it {{champion:432}}
No, don't get rid of the exposed chest on the sides!!! Maybe make it more of a square shape, but don't cover it completely.
: Irelia Bug Discussion
Order Of The Lotus splash art was tweaked again today(mostly kept the face of the second version and everything got back to the old), but it came with a little error. There's a colored(mostly purple) line on the right edge of the image, that wasn't there on the previous two versions. https://i.imgur.com/ch2f09F.png[/img]
: Infiltrator Irelia Feedback/Edit
Monday and still nothing x.x C'mon guys. List of the reasons why I think this has to be added: 1 - It adds consistency to the splash. 2 - It adds something interesting to the skin(headphones) that the others don't have. 3 - It fits the new design of Infiltrator, with this kind of eletronic vibe. 4 - The dark black/blue colors with silver on the edges look better than just plain silver, as it matches with the rest of her costume. 5 - Her head/hair looks better with something on top of it.
: Irelia Bug Discussion
So, here are all my notes on Irelia's skins. I think that after this, I have nothing else to say. Sorry if that's a lot, and for those bad little edits that go along with it(don't laugh!). Tried to make it all stuff that Riot hasn't responded to/hasn't been mentioned by everyone already. 1 - I think her outfit on the base splash it's a bit too light pink. I think it would be a lot better being a liittle more dark and red: https://i.imgur.com/kNyoUFr.png[/img] 2 - Order of The Lotus. A lot of people miss the blades on this one being golden. I think it would be nice if the white parts around them was changed to gold, while the pink pattern is still there inside. I also think her outfit would be better being a little lighter like before, with the petals on the blades being darker/more vivid, for the two to match. https://i.imgur.com/ifgDMk4.png[/img] 3 - Frostlade's blades kinda look too dark, plain and plastic. I think making it a bit lighter and maybe adding some texture would improve them. Also think it would be really nice to have snowing effects around the blades on Frostblade's ult. 4 - Chance is that you already saw it on all my other posts, and soorry for being annoying and repetitive, but Infiltrator Irelia... On the splash she has some cool black headphones, but in the model it's the usual silver headpiece. I really really think the headphones look much better and adds something cool to the skin's design. And the black with silver around goes much better with the rest of the outfit than just silver. Bonus more neon-like hair and lipstick. https://i.imgur.com/VVOZyv3.png[/img]
: These Ahri changes seem A LOT like Janna all over again
She needs that buff though. She doesn't have enough damage, and the only reason she has a good/decent winrate is that the movement speed on her Q makes her really easy to survive and escape. That's why they're taking that away and buffing her damage.
: I kneeeww she was lacking something but didn't know what and i think that's it!
Right? It really makes all the difference imo.
Rioter Comments
: Irelia Bug Discussion
So, I love the new Infiltrator Irelia, but, when I first saw the model after being so excited with the splash art, I knew something was off. So I looked and found what the big difference was: The headpiece. On the splash art, they're like headphones, with a line on the middle to connect them, of course. In-game, they're just like Irelia's normal headpiece. On the splash, they match the black/grey tone in her costume, with a silver line at the edge, while in-game they're purely silver. I think the splash look is a much more cool one, so I made a little edit. https://i.imgur.com/VVOZyv3.png[/img] Besides that, I also made the colors on her hair and lips a bit more like the splash, though this is not as important. I think those changes make the skin much more appealing and with a stronger theme. And it also adds consistency to the splash.
: Irelia Bug Discussion
Is there gonna be a feedback thread for the skins? Or should we post it here?
: Premium GGMF icon doesnt change your profile background
I sent it to LoveStrut on Twitter. Whether it's intentional or not, hope it can get fixed/changed.
: A few updates to GGMF are gonna be hitting PBE today! If you got any feedback, please feel free to hit us up with any comments. :)
I like the icons and the new idle animation, thanks! Don't want to be greedy, but if she could get one or a couple more anims, that'd be really great. Also, like others have said, some freckles would be nice. They're not visible on the animated splashes and icons, what I imagine is a little mistake, since they're there on the normal version of the splash. Plus they're not in the model at all. I think at least Scarlet Flair should have it. I'm fine with the others not having it because it makes the forms more different from each other. Could you say whether there are any changes on textures and such? Can't check it now.
: Why is there a "premium bundle" for an ultimate skin? Shouldn't everything just be included with the skin? And why are parts of it time-limited? The skin should be great enough that we want to buy it ASAP, rather than us feeling like we'll permanently lose out on something if we don't spring on it. Not a fan of the "buy the DELUXE skin for the border!" trend, it completely killed my interest in the Chinese New Year event/skins and the Star Guardian skins. I've liked unlocking everything I could, but I've only done it on fair terms. I've supported the game since S2 but don't really see that continuing if you continue to be aggressive about artificially increasing skin costs. If you want us to pay more, please just increase the price and cut the scummy tactics.
This! Border used to be for everyone who bought it early. I don't want the ward skin(the icon not that much either), the border needs to be available other way :(
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Gun Goddess Miss Fortune!
A pretty small and reasonable suggestion: Give her some freckles! At least on the Scarlet Flair skin. She has it on the splash and they're on most if not all of Miss Fortune's skins. Also, as I said before red lipstick for Zero Hour. Matches the gun, makes her face a bit more vivid, looks good with the blonde hair.
: GGMF | Minor changes but a different look!
Different hairstyles would really make all the difference. It's a shame.
: Ok, lower the price then, 475RP less than Elementalist Lux is not that much. Ultimate's early sales cost 2450RP, this should be the new tier, not 2775RP for that skin. The 2775RP price is just for you guys to put the skin for 2450RP in the early sale, even to the discount she wil lose to Elementalist Lux. Also, the premium bundle is too expensive, I know that we have 1 ward , 1 icon and a border, but with Elementalist Lux, the "Premium Bundle" costs 700RP more with 5 new icons and a ward that changes to match your element. With GGMF we get only 1 icon and a poor ward for 725RP. I love GGMF and MF, but comparing to Elementalist Lux she loss in so many aspects. I hope you guys can at least change the price.
Yeah 2450 feels more fair. It hurts my soul that you need to buy that bundle to get the border. I'm not interested on the ward skin.
: Hiii, friends! Thank you all so much for leaving your feedback here and elsewhere! Everyone on the team is reading through the comments. Sorry for taking so long to respond here. As you can expect out of a tech-intensive skin like GGMF, there are a lot of bugs. o_O I don't get to make the decisions here, but I can act as an advisory source of information and at least bring these points to the decision-makers. With all that said, I wanted to provide a bit of context on some of the common points brought up in this thread (and other online sources). **"WTF is up with her face and neck in the splash art?!"** * You can expect to see an update to this in the next PBE deploy! Hopefully the changes feel better to ya'll. **"Her VO doesn't sound like Miss Fortune! And why all the sexual lines?"** * Unfortunately, we couldn't get base MF's voice actress for this skin, so that was unavoidable. As for all the sexualized lines, we actually got that same feedback during the process to tone down the seductive lines and add more of that fierce Captain Fortune vibe, so we ended up adding in more "vicious" and "cutthroat" lines for events that tend to play more often (e.g. Long Move, Attack). We honestly feel good about the current state of her VO in regards to capturing MF in this universe. **"These forms look like _chromas_, change the models!"** * Unfortunately, there are limitations that prevent us from changing the models at this stage. We can make minor tweaks to the textures however. **"Why does the jetpack VFX blink?"** * With the way the VFX is set up to play from the animation, this is an unavoidable side-effect. We managed to make this a little less noticeable at least! **"The animations are way too close to base!"** * Keeping the animations fairly close to base was a concession that we had to make early on in development. If a marksman is going to be able to transform an unlimited amount of times throughout the game with varying particles (as well as a very different silhouette with her shoulder-pieces, exo-suit, and guns), we have to make tough choices to keep consistency with Base MF in several areas to maintain the MF read. **"Change the in-game portraits to match with the splash!"** * There aren't any plans to do this at the moment, but I can check with the team and see what they think. If we can leverage Elementalist Lux's tech and iterate on the splash easily, then there's a possibility, but the timeline is still super tight. **"Bring her back into production and re-release her at the typical Ultimate skin price."** * Mr. Cactopus addressed that [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/82pel6/riot_should_bring_back_gun_goddess_mf_in/dvbvyiu/). **"Change her VO lines to be different per form."** * She actually does have unique VO lines per form! Currently, we don't plan on expanding the current list of unique VO lines. **"There's a super annoying bug where she appears at the edge of the Fog of War!"** * This should be fixed now!
Tldr: Don't bother posting feedback. The skin is just gonna ship as it is, even if everyone's underwhelmed... Could as well just have made the title "PBE Bug Report Thread" instead... Honestly the fact that not even the idle animation can be changed, when Star Guardian Miss Fortune, a 1350 skin can... I know there's a reasoning but it doesn't feel fair that people who want to buy the skin are just gonna have to suck it up because someone might not be smart enough to know that's Miss Fortune... I think most people won't miss that she's getting an ultimate skin. Star Guardian MF actually has colors less readable as MF than the Scarlet Fair suit. Could have changed that one and keep the others with the old animation...
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Pizza Delivery Sivir!
Also wish she had a homeguard animation in her bike! It's too much of a missed opportunity. It would feel like you're riding to deliver the pizza, then when you come in lane you go and give them to the clients/enemies. It really adds to the fantasy of the skin, I don't know why it wasn't prioritized.
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Pizza Delivery Sivir!
This skin is amazing. Beautiful. Perfect(minus the pineapples). The only thing I have to say is something very minor, about her [loading screen](https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-fdfD4fOA-dk/WqBZVxpy_2I/AAAAAAAA6sE/TOqo6kuDAvI17-RV0lpGVf_sJdKJFjvXgCLcBGAs/s1600/1af3e41f8e41b650.png). You can barely see her ponytail on it, so it's kinda weird, like she just had short hair on a cap? Maybe zoom out a little or something.
: Why is the idle/walking animation the same as the base skin? Shouldn't it be different? Nonetheles, cool skin.
Even Star Guardian has a different animation ;( A 1350 skin.
: What do you mean with impossible? Check Project Vayne and Kai'Sa.
I mean that they would ever add it. On Twitter they said they decided not to for clarity or something, and that those concepts were just very early developments...
: Yeah, especially after seeing these awesome helmets and particles in concept art..
I'm fine with just the hair itself and maybe some accessories, since I think helmets and such are really really impossible.
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Gun Goddess Miss Fortune!
Little suggestion for the Zero Hour GGMF: I think she'd really look great with a bold red lipstick. It's a great touch for a blonde in grey(gives her face more life, you know), and it matches her guns.
: Hey LoveStrut, nice MF skin! Just some thoughts about it: Why in her base mode the exosuit has a blue/yellow palette when in her teaser it was clearly black/red/yellow? That was a inconsistency between the final release and teaser or something like "last second change"? [Comparison](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/128937318739345409/420724560095346719/Siamesas.png) And another thing is, she's soooo smalllllll when put together with others humans champions D: I known its because of her exosuit and you guys need to put her model the same size as the base, but idk, she looks like a gnome to me. lol
I think the colors on the teaser look much better, and also more MF-like.
: I think the skin looks awesome but I have seen people complain about her face looking off. Her current splash looks amazing aside from her nose. It's too short and upturned. My friend made the nose a bit wider and longer, and the tip not as turned upwards. She also widened the corner of her mouth. https://i.imgur.com/IssRNTk.png https://i.imgur.com/a7QzemL.jpg
I think the shadows also make her face look a little odd, it's a bit too dark on the chin area.
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Gun Goddess Miss Fortune!
The main thing I wanted to give feedback about... Is her hair. It feels really disappointing that she has the exact same hair on every one of the suits. It's probably the main reason why so many people think it feels like she just has three chromas. I know it's probably impossible and hopeless, but even some minor tweaks could help a bit.
: In the future, they'll be arranged into Universes. So even if they're in different sets (which is primarily for people who like to collect), they'll still be listed in the same Universe (for people who like lore).
It got updated recently and it's still the same way :( Is it still planned to change on the future?
: oh come on. This role got buffed from 2013 only. I was for the Banditremoval already for quite some time and am happy to see that. Like Supports got 800 Gold for free by implementing the sightstone and other lanes just abused the supportitems even stronger as before preseason where bandi was a mastery. Yea Supports lost their previous quests but these quest just got implemented with no compensation nerfs (powercreep) some time ago too.
You clearly don't play support. What other roles do with their items shouldn't be the main concern when balacing support stuff. "They get gold for free"... They don't farm. The kills are supposed to go to the rest of the team. There's pretty much no way to get gold but with these items.
: Changes to Support Items (Removing Bandit for 8.6)
RIP Supports 2013-2018. As if it wasn't an underplayed role already.
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Dragon Master Swain!
I love this skin, but the one problem I have with it, is that the hair is the same as his default. I also feel like there's a contrast with the rest of the skin, not in a good way. A couple of ideas to make it different: A - Put some red/orange/yellow ombre.Like it was planned to do with black on his default. On top of his hair if on the bottom is a problem. B - Adjust the tone so it's more like a cream tone. Kind of a blonde Swain rather than grey. Or it could be a red/orange tone too. The blue kind of grey is a bit much distracting when with the rest of the colors.
: We discussed it again, and will be leaving them as is.
I wish they could at least just be made into normal sleeves :/ I'm sorry if this comes as arrogant or rude, but, it feels so bad when there's something that is like, close to universally disliked and you guys just answer with pratically "Well, we like it that way, so deal with it".
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Sweetheart Rakan!
So, are those changes final? Or can we still give any more feedback?
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Lunar Revel Chromas!
I feel like keeping the purple hair color for Caitlyn's chroma doesn't quite fit with the rest of the colors. I think changing it to blue like Guqin Sona would be a significant improvement.
: The puffy pieces were done to give him more of a prince-vibe, if that makes sense, so removing them would move him further away from the goal of the skin.
That's relaly sad and even if it's worthles I'll keep saying I think you should really really reconsider that. Outside of textures and colors, that is the one big thing that most people are upset about. Giving him shoulder pads, like on [this edit](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DTNDNbkWAAAVWYC.jpg) keeps the whole prince vibe. Actually I'd say it feels even more like that. It says "royalty", rather than "children's cartoon".
: 1- Be grateful for having a free game that isn't pay to win and hands out free skins. Those same skins being their income source. 2- 7000 out of millions of people isn't much. If it was as bad as people say, RIOT would know it. RIOT has data that you don't, same goes for URF. It's not as easy as that getting a good feedback from the community. 3- The time and resources RIOT puts into making skins is so huge, making drastic changes to it wouldn't be worthwhile. Remember that RIOT is a lucrative business. Reinvesting time into remaking a skin isn't as easy as you might think. Supposing this skin is ugly, there are other skins that are ugly too, and still haven't been changed.
>1- Be grateful for having a free game that isn't pay to win and hands out free skins. Those same skins being their income source. That has literally absolutely 0, NOTHING to do with the point here. I am grateful for league and it not being pay to win. I'm not grateful for the skins. I'm complaining about them and not the rest of the game. Easy and obvious as that. > 2- 7000 out of millions of people isn't much. Yeah, because it's obviously only those people who have a problem with it. Somehow they all manage to get in one place and the rest of the community loves them... Just think, for it to have reached that number it means that a whole lot of people in general are disappointed too. You don't see that happening with every other release. Riot definetely knows it. Most of the feedback here on the forums, and on the spotlight videos, and on Twitter, and on facebook groups have been negative. > 3- The time and resources RIOT puts into making skins is so huge, making drastic changes to it wouldn't be worthwhile. Remember that RIOT is a lucrative business. Reinvesting time into remaking a skin isn't as easy as you might think. Supposing this skin is ugly, there are other skins that are ugly too, and still haven't been changed. You don't really know any of that, you're just saying whatever. They don't have to remake a skin, there are a lot of feedback from the community that are simple to be applied, and that has happened many times, in fact it happens with most skins. It's why they ask for feedback in the first place. Better skins = More people buying them. It's sure woth it to make some considerable tweaks on them, and they have time to do that.
: This kind of request is 100% not gonna happen. RIOT spends weeks maybe more making skins, spending a lot of time, money, and effort to make them. It's not because a handful of people don't like it that they will simply remove it or change it. Plus the most important part is, you don't like it ? Don't buy it. No one is forcing you to buy all skins RIOT makes. So be grateful and forget about it.
1 - Be grateful? For what? We ain't getting those skins for free, there's nothing for us to be grateful about. 2 - There's a post complaining about the skin with more than 7000 upvotes on Reddit. That's as much feedback as they can get, there aren't only "a handful of people" who are disappointed, it's the consensus of the community 3 - They're not gonna remove them, yeah, but something like that did happen before, and they absolutely SHOULD change it, after all, that's what there are feedback threads for.
: That's hot! I second all of this. So someone on reddit did what you suggested [here](https://i.imgur.com/EMjXvkx.jpg) They covered up Xayah a bit, changed some of the colors. MADE RAKAN Blonde. I stan
Rakan is a great improvement, but I don't like covering Xayah and making it ALL red.
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