: > [{quoted}](name=Arcane Phantom,realm=PBE,application-id=cMKtzQHY,discussion-id=1KhN8AOy,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2017-06-01T09:49:52.762+0000) > > Comparing Riven's and Yassuo's skins I noticed Yasuo's particles and their textures are already flashy from the start and don't build up to anything like Riven's does,Riven builds up the epic feeling of transforming and going super saiyan or something and earns even better particles suiting her transformation better. > > Basically I am saying Yasuo needs an actual transformation that lasts longer and looks better and builds up the flashy particles. > > Here is my proposal: He should have a permanent transformation progression based on what LV his ult is to end up looking epic like when he is in his recall,and less flashy particles based on what form he is in to ramp up to his original ones. > > I know he has some kind of effect or glow after he presses r on someone and gets the pen passive with crits but it doesn't look nearly good enough as the recall form and it doesn't last long at all. > > So yea I have a feel most people will like this and I strongly endorse you do this change. > > I don't know how you rate skins on rarity but I think this can still be called a legendary after these changes since you need to ramp up the good look,think of it as starting with a 975 skin,then a 1350 skin,finally the 1820 legendary skin with the epic recall transformation and all the flashiness of particles. > > This might be some extra work of designing and making the new assets but PLEASE think about it. > > Its totally gonna be worth it at the end. > > If you endorse this idea as well then please give dis comment a like so we get noticed. > > Edit: It just came to me...this skin would be amazing as a chroma project! Imagine all the verities of colored flames(blue and white plz) and transformations along side my suggestion it would have...I bet if you made this skin with my suggestion and made chromas for it...it would sell better then...dare I say it? PROJECT:Yasuo > > Edit 2: I checked and Rivens R form also lasts 15 seconds so I might be wrong on it being short but the final form needs to be the one from the recall. Hiya Arcane Phantom! Thanks for this awesome idea and feedback! Sorry for not responding earlier. We wanted to vet out this idea internally first, since it's been brought up in multiple places. Unfortunately, with the time between PBE and reaching Live, there was too much risk in creating new issues and bugs across all Yasuo skins if we made new VFX assets to progressively change and created new design hook ups to properly change the VFX depending on level, skill level, or ult buff state. This is something that we can explore in the future, but for now, the possibility of introducing a ton of bugs is just too damn high. :[ As for the transformation form itself, that's going to have to remain in the Recall due to gameplay concerns. We tried to use the fully transformed state during the ult buff duration, but the increased brightness and size during the buff duration made it seem like he had more than just an armor pen buff going on, while the overall silhouette and color change to the model didn't read enough like Yasuo. This is something that we can learn from in the future, especially when doing paired skins like Riven and Yasuo.
Yea I understand,I hope you do an update on it in the near future. The second part for the transformation didn't make sense doe.Every skin from 1350 and above(even some newer 975 ones) has a different feel and make you feel stronger in some way or another (like the first thing I noticed in Dawnbringer Riven is her sword and animations she uses for it made her feel like she had a lot more impact then the usual Riven,the Q looks faster,the W looks bigger) so it should be ok for it to seem he has more then an armor pen buff since that really shouldn't be a real concern because players who are even interested in what happens when he looks like that will look it up.As for if you feel the transformation is underwhelmed by the armor pen buff and you would expect more from it...that shouldn't really be a problem and I don't think most people will mind it but in the end its all about the taste,if you feel like the idea didn't read enough like Yasuo that part is all taste and taste will always be different.Yea this is mostly my taste and some people agree with me but we can't really know how different our tastes are in majority without a petition or something. P.S. I still endorse the Chroma idea even without my changes I really want a blue version of this skin.
: Please Riot, Change Nightbringer Yasuo's model on his ultimate! Currently, the model on Nightbringer Yasuo when he ults is very underwhelming compared to Riven's. Yasuo's feels subtle and its hard to see when you are a bit color-blind, so i would love if you could change it to the recall version! That one looks sick as hell and evil! Also, while im complaining about the skin, changing the windwall would be great too, but that i think would cause clarity issues
This is honestly a more fair and probably better version of my first idea and I endorse it! I still stand with my second one that this skin would be awesome with chromas!
: sadly i dont think they can do that right now due to it taking so much more time to make a new particle set and then put it into testing and stuff QWQ, i agree with u however these 2 skins don't match.... Even though they should have been a match one to another..
They already got the forms so toning down the particles by removing some layers of color or light shouldn't take too long or be too complicated...I think...
: I had a similar thought but instead of making it per ult Lvl make him look like his recall transformation during the period he gets the bonus armor pen after his ult kinda like riven changes after she ults and then turns back to normal, he would do the same change during the 15s after the ult then turn back
Hmmm yea I checked and Rivens R also lasts 15 seconds so I might be wrong on it being short but the final form needs to be the one from the recall yes.
: I had a similar thought but instead of making it per ult Lvl make him look like his recall transformation during the period he gets the bonus armor pen after his ult kinda like riven changes after she ults and then turns back to normal, he would do the same change during the 15s after the ult then turn back
Hmmm yea I checked and Rivens R also lasts 15 seconds so I might be wrong on it being short but the final form needs to be the one from the recall yes.
: Dunno about the permanent progression since I rather like the build up into a demon. However, I'm disappointing that the recall version doesn't show up after the ult. My biggest problem is with his sword seeming to be way to short and the fact that his sheath defies physics.
Yea the build up is nice but form still lasts too short. Agree with the second part doe.
: There isn't a correlation between what missions you complete and what skins you'll get our of the orbs. Obviously the more missions you complete the more tokens you'll get, but doing more Order missions wont increase your chance of getting the Riven skin. If that's what you mean. :)
Wouldn't it be thematically better for the orbs to have the chance to give their representative skin instead of the hex tech exclusive ones?
: Heads up on new Order and Chaos themed content
Nightbringer Yasuo Feedback Comparing Riven's and Yassuo's skins I noticed Yasuo's particles and their textures are already flashy from the start and don't build up to anything like Riven's does,Riven builds up the epic feeling of transforming and going super saiyan or something and earns even better particles suiting her transformation better. Basically I am saying Yasuo needs an actual transformation that lasts longer and looks better and builds up the flashy particles. Here is my proposal: He should have a permanent transformation progression based on what LV his ult is to end up looking epic like when he is in his recall,and less flashy particles based on what form he is in to ramp up to his original ones. I know he has some kind of effect or glow after he presses r on someone and gets the pen passive with crits but it doesn't look nearly good enough as the recall form and it doesn't last long at all. So yea I have a feel most people will like this and I strongly endorse you do this change. I don't know how you rate skins on rarity but I think this can still be called a legendary after these changes since you need to ramp up the good look,think of it as starting with a 975 skin,then a 1350 skin,finally the 1820 legendary skin with the epic recall transformation and all the flashiness of particles. This might be some extra work of designing and making the new assets but PLEASE think about it. Its totally gonna be worth it at the end. If you endorse this idea as well then please give dis comment a like so we get noticed. Edit: It just came to me...this skin would be amazing as a chroma project! Imagine all the verities of colored flames(blue and white plz) and transformations along side my suggestion it would have...I bet if you made this skin with my suggestion and made chromas for it...it would sell better then...dare I say it? PROJECT:Yasuo Edit 2: I checked and Rivens R form also lasts 15 seconds so I might be wrong on it being short but the final form needs to be the one from the recall.
: agreed wonder when a rioter will stop by and tell us whats up.
Me too! Glad you agree with me! Do you like my edit suggestion as well?
: Totally logged in just to upvote this! You can't have something as cool and absolutely badass as the final form when you recall and then not let us use it end game! PLEASE RIOT take this idea and use it! My suggestion would be during the armor pen part is active from the ult (after you ult on the base skin it glows blue) make the blade on fire or glowing a real firey red to not confuse it with a q or something like that. Please figure out a way to do this though Riot we NEED that final form to be playable!
Glad you like it! Would really love if RIOT acknowledged this and actually made it,oh and give an opinion about my edit. Edit:He already does have an glowing effect when his R pen is on so idk what exactly you are suggesting,
: Wouldn't that make the skin ultimate tier instead of just a legendary tier? since they would need to put in the work for the transformation
Not really just make the textures they already have appear permanently by lv. He already has 3 forms so...maybe add 1 more or maybe not?
: PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: Nightbringer Yasuo!
Comparing Riven's and Yassuo's skins I noticed Yasuo's particles and their textures are already flashy from the start and don't build up to anything like Riven's does,Riven builds up the epic feeling of transforming and going super saiyan or something and earns even better particles suiting her transformation better. Basically I am saying Yasuo needs an actual transformation that lasts longer and looks better and builds up the flashy particles. Here is my proposal: He should have a permanent transformation progression based on what LV his ult is to end up looking epic like when he is in his recall,and less flashy particles based on what form he is in to ramp up to his original ones. I know he has some kind of effect or glow after he presses r on someone and gets the pen passive with crits but it doesn't look nearly good enough as the recall form and it doesn't last long at all. So yea I have a feel most people will like this and I strongly endorse you do this change. I don't know how you rate skins on rarity but I think this can still be called a legendary after these changes since you need to ramp up the good look,think of it as starting with a 975 skin,then a 1350 skin,finally the 1820 legendary skin with the epic recall transformation and all the flashiness of particles. This might be some extra work of designing and making the new assets but PLEASE think about it. Its totally gonna be worth it at the end. If you endorse this idea as well then please give dis comment a like so we get noticed. Edit: It just came to me...this skin would be amazing as a chroma project! Imagine all the verities of colored flames(blue and white plz) and transformations along side my suggestion it would have...I bet if you made this skin with my suggestion and made chromas for it...it would sell better then...dare I say it? PROJECT:Yasuo Edit 2: I checked and Rivens R form also lasts 15 seconds so I might be wrong on it being short but the final form needs to be the one from the recall.
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: We'll you're saying you don't like instalockers, but yet, you're using autoclicker to lock it faster then anyone else. Doesn't that make you an instalocker also? Try talking to your team, maybe they'll let you pick it instead. The problem starts with ourselves.
Yea I tried to do it since everybody did but I can't because of the stupid internet and yes I did talk to them to give him so I can try him but still even if that happens every like 10% of champion selects as soon as that guy tried to give the champ to me someone else stole and ignored all of us the whole game like a douche bag.
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