: They should just revert the R nerfs they did a while ago
30 / 45 / 60 25 / 40 / 55 40 / 50 / 60 Few fair numbers I'd say.
Rioter Comments
: kog'maw, varus, kai'sa and ashe all do really well with runaan, but none of them build crit anymore. that's exactly the point. they either go AP, lethality or on-hit. as for jinx, she does work well with runaan, but so does she work well with statikk and RFC. I'm sure she'd be fine without it. I mean... keeping an unwanted stat for the sake of 2 champions isn't a good idea, is it?
> [{quoted}](name=Cafka,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=kF5ABez8,comment-id=0001000100000000,timestamp=2018-08-01T21:43:34.958+0000) > > kog'maw, varus, kai'sa and ashe all do really well with runaan, but none of them build crit anymore. that's exactly the point. they either go AP, lethality or on-hit. > > as for jinx, she does work well with runaan, but so does she work well with statikk and RFC. I'm sure she'd be fine without it. I mean... keeping an unwanted stat for the sake of 2 champions isn't a good idea, is it? Ashe doesn't build lethality. LOL
Rioter Comments
: Two things I want to ask and one suggestion
Shojin's spear reduces Physical and Magical damage received. True and Pure damage is NOT reduced.
Rioter Comments
: This item does not reduce True Damage.
> [{quoted}](name=Lowbo,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=QzwOyzht,comment-id=00290000,timestamp=2018-05-24T20:18:06.540+0000) > > This item does not reduce True Damage. Thank you.
: Fighter Items on PBE for 8.12
> [{quoted}](name=Lowbo,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=QzwOyzht,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-05-17T21:12:11.616+0000) > Spear of Shojin > > https://imgur.com/a/BOyWks3 > > This item is intended to help champions that build a lot of AD rather than defensive items survive in the middle of teamfights. A lot of champions are capable of bursting one enemy, but the often sacrifice their life to do so. This item will offer survivability in that scenario, enabling them to escape or begin attacking the next target. The range for activation is pretty small, so we’re not expecting this item to be good for most Marksmen. This icon is temporary - new one coming soon! Hi Lowbo. How is the damage reduction on this item coded? Is it coded as a shield or as an actual damage reduction effect like Phantom Dancer? I'd find it unfair if this item can reduce True Damage like Bone Plating can. I really hope this item doesn't reduce True Damage.
: could this comment be seriously taken into consideration please? at this point there are not many adcs who actually want to build runaans other than varus, kog'maw and kalista, which all go on-hit (botrk, guinsoo, wit's end) most of the time. There were few exceptions like ashe, but now that essence reaver doesn't add to crit builds and infinity edge probably doesn't increase her slow there is really no reason for her not to go runaan guinsoos botrk like the rest of her crew. Just add the on-hit damage from {{item:1043}} back and exchange {{item:3086}} for {{item:3101}} or something
Please don't remove the crit. Many ADC's function well with Runaan's. > [{quoted}](name=Cafka,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=kF5ABez8,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2018-05-03T21:58:22.528+0000) > > could this comment be seriously taken into consideration please? at this point there are not many adcs who actually want to build runaans other than varus, kog'maw and kalista, which all go on-hit (botrk, guinsoo, wit's end) most of the time. There were few exceptions like ashe, but now that essence reaver doesn't add to crit builds and infinity edge probably doesn't increase her slow there is really no reason for her not to go runaan guinsoos botrk like the rest of her crew. > > Just add the on-hit damage from {{item:1043}} back and exchange {{item:3086}} for {{item:3101}} or something Sorry? {{champion:22}} {{champion:222}} {{champion:145}} {{champion:29}} {{champion:110}} {{champion:96}} There's plenty of ADC's who build Runaan's. I'd rather the Crit stays, removing an entire stat just for the sake of 2 champions isn't a good idea. Teemo and Kayle can survive without Runaans. Ashe has no synergy with the Guinsoo's Rage phantom effect. Only ADC's who can/should be building Guinsoo's is {{champion:145}} {{champion:96}} {{champion:67}} {{champion:110}} and possibly {{champion:429}}
: Draven also appears to be not gaining the bonus ad/level, as well as some other minor inconsistencies in defensive stat changes (though those appear to potentially be intentional) such as ezreal losing 6 armor and jinx losing 4, while everyone else loses 5. Were those unintentional as well?
> [{quoted}](name=monsterbar,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=kF5ABez8,comment-id=002900000001,timestamp=2018-05-19T09:42:20.127+0000) > > Draven also appears to be not gaining the bonus ad/level, as well as some other minor inconsistencies in defensive stat changes (though those appear to potentially be intentional) such as ezreal losing 6 armor and jinx losing 4, while everyone else loses 5. > > Were those unintentional as well? The Ezreal armor change may be intentional. It makes sense for the longer range / Safer laning phase ADC's to lose more than the lower range ADC's. It doesn't make sense for Jinx to only lose 4 when ADC's who have shorter range than her and much more risky laning phases (Vayne) are losing 5.
: I like this Stormrazer
It's intended for ADC's though.
: > [{quoted}](name=Antenora,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=kF5ABez8,comment-id=0029,timestamp=2018-05-17T17:09:05.887+0000) > > Every ADC is losing 4 base AD but {{champion:67}} is losing 5 and still only receiving 0.7 extra a level. > > Why? > > > Tristana > Base AD lowered from 65 to 61 > > Twitch > Base AD lowered from 63 to 59 > > > Varus > Base AD lowered from 63 to 59 > > > Vayne > **Base AD lowered from 64 to 59** - 5 ??? > > > Xayah > Base AD lowered from 64 to 60 Fixed for next deploy, good catch.
> [{quoted}](name=Riot Axes,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=kF5ABez8,comment-id=00290000,timestamp=2018-05-17T21:03:19.147+0000) > > Fixed for next deploy, good catch. Thank you. I know it's only 1 AD but for the sake of consistency I thought it was worth pointing out.
: Marksman and AD Itemization Changes coming to PBE shortly
Every ADC is losing 4 base AD but {{champion:67}} is losing 5 and still only receiving 0.7 extra a level. Why? Tristana Base AD lowered from 65 to 61 Twitch Base AD lowered from 63 to 59 Varus Base AD lowered from 63 to 59 Vayne **Base AD lowered from 64 to 59** - 5 ??? Xayah Base AD lowered from 64 to 60
: AD Itemization Changes on Jayce
Only champs who **might **use HoB is champs with 3 hit passives or need quick stacks on a passive. {{champion:245}} {{champion:67}} {{champion:110}} etc
: Hail of Blades and PTA are too similar in my opinion
I don't see any ADC's using Hail of Blades. MAYBE Vayne in niche situations but how often can she commit to a 3 attack trade in lane?
: Conquerer only does true damage against champions. Infinity edge deals true damage to anything that can be crit. The Spirit is not a champion, so conquerer does not work against it.
> [{quoted}](name=Asamu,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=Etn6kvuL,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-05-08T15:16:32.181+0000) > > Conquerer only does true damage against champions. Infinity edge deals true damage to anything that can be crit. The Spirit is not a champion, so conquerer does not work against it. Recent PBE change made it so Infinity Edge only deals True damage to champions.
: What about making runan a non crit item again?
> [{quoted}](name=Kalista IRL,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=kF5ABez8,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-05-01T23:04:36.559+0000) > > What about making runan a non crit item again? No.
: You made a keystone that **LITERALLY** only Vayne can use and would use on a mastery page that she does not even want to put any points into. Absolutely terrible keystone, too similar to the other attack speed keystone that no one uses now and is less niche than "Hail of Blades" that only ONE champion can use. What I would do is completely drop "Hail of Blade" and rework Lethal Tempo to be something like gain 2% total attack speed for 6 seconds, stacking up to 20 times, gain 3 stacks (5 stacks for melee attacks) when attacking enemy champions or epic monsters. Your attack speed cap is removed. (So a maximum of 40% total attack speed increase.) I would take Lethal Tempo if it could work as a ramp up system, similar to Guinsoo's Rageblade, that always unlocks your attack speed cap for having the keystone. Makes the effect a lot more notice-able and appreciated since you can build around it a lot better, similar to taking a mastery for 45% CDR to always have that exceeded cap or taking a mastery that lets you build more than 40% CDR and get something for it, give a keystone permanent exceeded attack speed cap and it becomes a lot more tempting to take over Fleet of Footwork for an example.
> [{quoted}](name=Stacona,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=kF5ABez8,comment-id=000200000004,timestamp=2018-05-03T01:01:33.380+0000) > > You made a keystone that **LITERALLY** only Vayne can use and would use on a mastery page that she does not even want to put any points into. Absolutely terrible keystone, too similar to the other attack speed keystone that no one uses now and is less niche than "Hail of Blades" that only ONE champion can use. > > What I would do is completely drop "Hail of Blade" and rework Lethal Tempo to be something like gain 2% total attack speed for 6 seconds, stacking up to 20 times, gain 3 stacks (5 stacks for melee attacks) when attacking enemy champions or epic monsters. > > Your attack speed cap is removed. > > (So a maximum of 40% total attack speed increase.) > > I would take Lethal Tempo if it could work as a ramp up system, similar to Guinsoo's Rageblade, that always unlocks your attack speed cap for having the keystone. Makes the effect a lot more notice-able and appreciated since you can build around it a lot better, similar to taking a mastery for 45% CDR to always have that exceeded cap or taking a mastery that lets you build more than 40% CDR and get something for it, give a keystone permanent exceeded attack speed cap and it becomes a lot more tempting to take over Fleet of Footwork for an example. As a Vayne Main myself I don't ever see myself taking Hail of Blades over Lethal Tempo or Fleet Footwork. Yes, she has runes she can use in Domination. Sudden Impact works extremely well with her Q. Eyeball Collection is more of a snowball rune. Vayne snowballs hard anyway so free stats are nice. Ravenous Hunter healing procs from Tumble, Statikk Shiv/BoTRK and Silver Bolts
: Had same issue with Jayce. Although I assume the ultimate portion is not supposed to work on him.
> [{quoted}](name=Gorigami,realm=PBE,application-id=A4D2003433C8FCD715185A7264A9CC6FDFAD7FEF,discussion-id=RBx6idhI,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-05-03T01:45:40.515+0000) > > Had same issue with Jayce. Although I assume the ultimate portion is not supposed to work on him. Jayce's R is considered a 4th basic ability I think. Same for Nidalee, Udyr, Elise.
: 5/2 Essence Reaver Effect doesn't work
Confirmed. Tried in practice tool with {{champion:67}} I don't get the attack speed or the cooldown reduction on the abilities. https://streamable.com/yp8z4
: Mana changes coming to PBE today
{{champion:25}} ? Played Mid Lane a bit, also uses Doran's ring... > Spellthief's Edge > No longer gives base mana regen > Frostfang > Base Mana Regen :: 50% >>> 25% {{champion:37}} ? {{champion:16}} ? {{champion:267}} ? {{champion:117}} ? {{champion:43}} ? {{champion:40}} ?
: PBE Chat with the Playtest Team - 8.8
Are you planning to take a look at Vayne at all within the next few patches? 8.1 she was overpowered, fair enough the nerfs she received were deserved. Direct Nerfs combined with the Targon nerf bought her down to a very healthy 50% win rate. Statikk Shiv got nerfed in 8.6, one of Vayne's core items and now she's at around 47-48% win rate.
Rioter Comments
: Cooldown Reset Flair
It seems like a nice little aesthetic feature but one question for you if possible Have you guys considered if this is going to cause complications with players who have conditions like Photosensitive Epilepsy or are sensitive to flashing images? I don't have the condition myself but it's the first thing that came to mind when reading about this feature. Could there be a toggle option to turn these on and off at will?
: So RIP Lee Sin ward jump and Master Yi/Shyvana? new smite thoughts
This change is gonna nerf every champion that jungles and relies on or utilizes red smite. {{champion:11}} {{champion:121}} {{champion:102}} {{champion:29}} {{champion:5}} {{champion:48}} {{champion:203}} {{champion:59}}{{champion:104}} {{champion:107}} {{champion:133}} {{champion:56}} {{champion:19}} {{champion:164}} I am calling it now, All you will see in the jungle from 8.4 onwards is {{champion:31}} {{champion:57}} {{champion:113}} {{champion:33}} and other tanks.
: About nerf on vayne
Here's what's gonna happen. Vayne gets nerfed -> Tristana and Twitch ruin another season -> Tristana and Twitch won't get nerfed.
Rioter Comments
: Why are people like this guy allowed on PBE?
The guy doesn't realize that PBE accounts are linked to your live server accounts and that any punishments on PBE apparently carry over to your live account.
: Buffs and Nerfs ideas
Xayah honestly doesn't need buffs. She's borderline nerf worthy tbh.
Rioter Comments
: Jhin ammo bar
It's happening to all champions that have ammo/charges display on their HUD. {{champion:1}} {{champion:42}} {{champion:104}} {{champion:202}}
: PROJECT: Vayne
Personally I like the Overlay but I understand for some people it can be extremely distracting, An option to toggle it on and off at will would be nice.
: Miss Fortune physical damage
21/5 Lethality MF. Aatrox could of jumped on her and stopped every single ultimate.
: [Vayne] PROJECT: Vayne Ult overlay doesn't fit the screen
https://imgur.com/a/E5C3r Only shows on center of my screen also. 1920x1080 resolution also.
: Zoe is probably coming back after this maintenance.
> [{quoted}](name=AquelaCarinhaPBE,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=EixxGXE8,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-11-07T20:47:52.039+0000) > > Zoe is probably coming back after this maintenance. We'll see. Depends if the bug is fixed.
: Every champion has it.
> [{quoted}](name=Catalola,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=0pZowLaU,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-11-07T21:53:58.670+0000) > > Every champion has it. Yep even champions on their base skin have it.
: Project Vayne - Make the HUD alteration during her ult a(n) (switchable) option
An option to turn off HUD effects like this would be great but I do not agree with it being force disabled for ranked. I like the HUD effect so do many others. It should be an option to turn off these HUD overlays not forced.
: Project Vayne Ultimate
Yeah can confirm. It needs to be fixed.
: When will Zoe be available again?
: Vayne, Vi and Jhin Skins
My wallet is already willing for that Vayne and Jhin skin.
: [CLOSED] PBE Bugs & Feedback Thread: PROJECT: Vayne!
As a 640k mastery Vayne player I have to say I absolutely adore this skin and will be buying it on both of my accounts. The only issue I have with the skin has already been wrote about by PROJECT x Mochi. The walking animation after you use tumble both in and out of Final Hour is pretty weird.
: [PSA] about ZOE being disabled and people crying "How much time it takes to fix a bug"
The bug is pretty major. I believe they made the right decision disabling Zoe until it's fixed. If I was Zoe's designer I'd have done the same.
: I believe Vayne is 1850
> [{quoted}](name=Sarah,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=Nfe4o9Xl,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2017-11-07T11:19:40.660+0000) > > I believe Vayne is 1850 Vayne is 1820.
: Do you know how long will it take? Like, more or less. Doesn't have to be 100% accurate.
> [{quoted}](name=Lesbianami,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=TyanAyYq,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2017-11-07T01:24:19.117+0000) > > Do you know how long will it take? Like, more or less. Doesn't have to be 100% accurate. I don't.
: Hi! I noticed that neither in the shop nor my collection the skin shows up with the art it should. Regards! Prove: http://prntscr.com/h7468m http://prntscr.com/h745zz
> [{quoted}](name=AlexCarey,realm=PBE,application-id=AYQh7p7O,discussion-id=nOAgzzLI,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-11-07T00:00:22.929+0000) > > Hi! I noticed that neither in the shop nor my collection the skin shows up with the art it should. Regards! > > Prove: > http://prntscr.com/h7468m > http://prntscr.com/h745zz Splash arts don't usually get released until late into the PBE cycle.
: Please enable zoe again :(
When it's fixed they will re-enable her.

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