An Update on Chromas

Hey everyone, SuperCakes here. I’m the product manager on Personalization (aka Skins Team). It’s been a little over a year since we launched chroma packs. And while we’ve always been excited about chromas as a product, after hearing from you, we realized we could make them better. Now we're hyped to share some news with you about our changes to chromas which are coming out soon and are tracking to hit PBE next week. Our first move was to go back to basics and revisit things from this perspective: _Why would I, as a player, want chromas?_ Here’s the thing. I love skins and have a lot of them. But there are certain skins I always go back to. Arcade Miss Fortune is one of my favorite skins, and looking at what you guys are playing, it’s one of your favorites, too. And if I can play her in a rainbow of options, that sounds pretty cool to me. Chromas are meant to deepen your experience with a piece of content you already own, love, and play the shit out of. It’s that simple. Next step, _How do we address your feedback?_ The things that were ringing loudest were around bundling, aesthetics, and the pricing of chromas, and that’s where we put the majority of our focus. **Bundling:** We’ve unpacked chromas so you can buy them individually. You can still buy them in bundles, though, for a discount. **Aesthetics:** Chromas are designed by the same folks that make skins, and we take our responsibility pretty seriously. We only want to introduce things into the game that improve the overall experience of playing League of Legends. We took a look at what we were making and found opportunities to improve with revamped color schemes, patterns, and textures. **Pricing:** Chromas will be priced at 290 RP each, and will also be available in discounted bundles for the collectors out there. For those of you who love a chance to spend IP, we’re also** introducing recurring IP sales which will take place twice a year.** The first IP sale goes from August 25, 2016 to September 8, 2016 and includes all chromas launched before August 2016. EDIT: Sorry for not mentioning this when I posted earlier, individual chromas will be available for 2000 IP each during the sale periods. All of the chromas released before this month will be in the first sale, so you can take a look now at which ones you want to save for! Bundle details will be available soon. Some of you also suggested that chromas could be a reward for mastery. We’re committed to improving mastery rewards, and with the release of Hextech Crafting this year, we’re thrilled to have a way to reward you for mastery across several of our content offerings, including a chance to get free skins. We won’t be launching chromas in Hextech Crafting at this time, but it’s something we’re thinking about for future iterations. We’ll get into more detail when the first wave of new chromas launches in a few weeks. For now, here’s a sneak peek of some of the aesthetic changes mentioned: What do you think of the changes? What would you like to see? Let us know! Play Safe! SuperCakes
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Will Chromas be regular additions in each patch cycle (like skins)? Or will they only be added occasionally (like ward skins)?
Currently we are not planning to have new ones every single patch, but they will be coming a lot more often than ward skins.
So have the pipeline issues that made chromas just not worth the time been resolved?
We are still optimizing that pipeline, but we are pretty confident at this point we can deliver them on a good cadence without affecting production of skins and at really good quality bar. It was a longer road than we expected, but we are pretty happy where we ended up and really hope you guys enjoy them!
Is the IP sale for the full bundle or is it for a specific chroma variant? (eg. If I spent it on Zac Sweet, would I get the full pack of 3 or do I have to choose between orange pink and yellow?)
The IP sale will be for individual chromas.
Wait, didnt Riot say before that chromas were put on hold, since the current shop didnt allow to a comfortable purchase of them and that they always had a technically difficulties to implement them? Did that change or is it still the same issues?
Store will be updated in the next patch to allow for individual Chromas being sold.
This is big change, that I do view as a positive change for them, however, I do have _**a couple of ideas**_ I would like to suggest to you guys. **1. Seasonal/Event chromas:** This would include Pool Party, Arcade, Bilgewater and Snowdown. These chromas (individual or packs) could be sold as IP and RP, to celebrate patches. During the Pool Party patch, you could release special chromas with colors based on the event (such as a "water" set or a "sand" set.) These could, but are not limited to textures aswell. For skin patches, such as the arcade patch, you could release a set of arcade textured chromas. **2. Mastery and Ranked chromas:** This chroma would be focused on reaching mastery ranks 5, 6 and 7 on a champion, and would be included in the end of ranked rewards. Red (5), Purple (6), and Blue (7) chroma would be created for the **BASE** skin (rank 7 could possibly bring chroma for skins as well). For Ranked, your top played champion(s) could receive a chroma based on your rank, this would most likely be only for the **BASE** skin and could be available for all ranks. **3. Champion chromas:** With this update to chromas, you have pushed only skin chromas, this could change when the next PBE Cycle begins, but if you have not thought or made any more base chromas, adding roughly 3 for each base skin could create diversity in game appearances, and be an option for less frugal buyers or the lower income players. Eventually you could expand to a full palette of chromas for each champion, with one per base color on the color wheel, and altered or non base color versions for things such as champion mastery, ranked and seasonal events. **4. Ability chromas:** These chroma would be aimed at changing abilities as well as the model for a champion. This could be for a base skin or skin, and would alter the effects slightly to create a color variant (for example PROJECT skins could have their main color (ie. Ashe's blue) and have it changed to match the Chroma's color.) **5. Skin transfers:** Some of the older skins in League of Legends were only recolors, by making these skins legacy and permanently vaulted, you could transfer them over to the chroma program. This is just an additional side note, and does not have to happen. The main ideas and suggestions that I and probably a large part of the community would like to see are numbers 1-4. Thanks for reading this if you do, riot! {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
Interesting ideas! We are looking forward to see how you guys all receive these new Chromas and potentially evolve what we do with them based on any trends that we see and we are also listening to your ideas/ feedback to try to improve! As far as each of your suggestions: 1-Event Chromas: Arcade Miss Fortune is our first attempt to see how a Chroma set that is part of a thematic that includes new skins is received. I expect we'll explore more variations around Chromas with each thematic in the future. 2-Currently not being planned, but I dig the ranked idea and we are always looking at new ways to reward mastery and ranked accomplishments. Personally I think loot drops was a good step into giving mastery rewards and give you guys access to a broad content catalog for free, but we'll see what else we can put together in the future with the competitive team. 3- We actually saw from the first group of Chromas that you guys seem to prefer skin Chromas, I was actually surprised when we looked at who buys Chromas, it looks to us that the biggest portion is players that actually want to deepen their choices with a skin that they already love. Actually this makes sense, when I think of Chromas the first thing that comes to mind is how sweet it would be to have a set of Surfer Singed Chromas as that is my favorite champion and skin in the game! :) 4- Cool idea! the challenge there is our VFX resources are always stretched between new skins, champions and other projects and it would be hard to prioritize for Chromas, but we are always hiring awesome artist and who knows maybe some day in the future there is an opportunity for Chromas 2.0? We are not working on this currently but I could see it being something we try if we find Chromas are really successful. 5-This would actually be a little more complicated than it sounds because of the way the tech works. We are also initially trying to cover a lot of the skins that are played a lot, that way we cover a bigger number of players that want to have a new way of playing with their favorite skins, but thanks for letting us know about this idea. Thanks again for the great ideas!
When will they be available for testing/for use? i thought they would be up with the arcade skins but they aren't and i'm really anxious to see these skins on the rift!!
They're up now for testing. :)
So is there gonna be an update to already existing ones or for ones already purchased , like my yi choma which i would want more colors for
At this time, there aren't plans to do so.
Soo... To have the chroma pack and buy It with ip You need the skin, right?
You would need to own the champion, as well as the parent skin before you're able to purchase the skin. So, you'd need to own Miss Fortune and Arcade Miss Fortune before you purchased any of the Arcade Miss Fortune Chroma packs.
> individual chromas will be available for **2000 IP** each during the sale periods. Hopefully a typo.
Not a typo, 2000 IP is correct.
I was wondering, could we purchase a chroma even if we didnt have the base skin? (ex: dragonslayer vayne)
Unfortunately not. You'd need to own the champion, as well as the parent skin. For example, you would need to own Miss Fortune, Arcade Miss Fortune, and then you would be able to purchase one of the Arcade Miss Fortune Chromas.
PBE when to on-line
They've been turned on PBE, and should be available next patch. :)
I love you. have u thought about recolouring the splash arts for chromas before? just the model with a blank background seems quite bad. or even having the original splash in the background rather than a black screen.
We're having discussions on how to best display the chomas themselves on the loading screen in particular. For the new chromas, you won't see a name like "Koi Nami Element" like previous chromas had. For now, it'll just say "Arcade Miss Fortune" and have Arcade Miss Fortune's loading screen slice. Some of the names for the newer chromas are wicked long - Warring Kingdoms Xin Zhao Amythest, for example (and it's even longer in other languages. @_@). Of course, that isn't ideal, and we're looking for a solve that works all around. :)
Can you guys make a chroma pack for sona please? It would make me so happy ^^
+1 I'd be down for this. \*-*
Will there be a Nautilus chromas {{champion:111}} {{champion:111}} {{champion:111}} {{champion:111}} {{champion:111}}
You'll have to wait and see! Which of his skins (or base) are you hoping for?
I want White Blackfrost Anivia and different colours for Easter Teemo
You're in luck - there are Cottontail Teemo chromas on the PBE. :D
IMO a black with golden/silver details Zed would be better instead of a full yellow. Something like this:
> [{quoted}](name=Glaugan,realm=PBE,application-id=cMKtzQHY,discussion-id=maO0tyub,comment-id=000d,timestamp=2016-08-05T22:29:50.480+0000) > > IMO a black with golden/silver details Zed would be better instead of a full yellow. Something like this: They have to be careful about black colored skins for gameplay clarity sake. I believe they stated it somewhere but I can't remember the source location.
That's correct. There was a black Zac chroma that we had tried out, but it wasn't the best in terms of readability. :c
I think there might be something bugged with one of the Cottontail Teemo chromas. One of them is discolored; it's supposed to be covered in blood to show his blood lust, but instead all I see is a mud covered bunny.
At first I was like, "shit, a bug", followed by "8/8 nice b8 m8". :P
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