Rengar Changes Feedback Thread

We’ve got some {{champion:107}} changes coming to the PBE at some point this week and this is the thread to give feedback on them. Target ship date is 8.4 (about 4 weeks from now) First, a disclaimer: **THESE CHANGES ARE EXPERIMENTAL. IT IS POSSIBLE THAT SOME OF THEM DO NOT SHIP. IT IS POSSIBLE WE CHANGE OTHER THINGS. THE SHIP DATE COULD BE PUSHED BACK. ITERATION IS ONGOING.** So what are we trying to achieve here? The overall goal is to change {{champion:107}} in a way that makes him more fun to play for Rengar players while retaining the game health gains that he received during the assassin update. I guarantee that we’re not going to give everyone everything that they want (be it Rengar mains or their victims), but the hope is that we can get him into a place that is a net improvement from what is currently on live. With that in mind, we’re focusing on the Q and R. We’re reverting the Q to the old AA enhancement spell and testing some changes on the ult that allow Rengar to be sneakier while using it (should be better for dodging wards and ganking solitary targets). A secondary goal is to open up some off-builds for him. Currently testing changes for 4 possible builds. There’s a strong possibility that a few of these have game health risks and will need to be iterated away from: 1. Crit {{item:3046}} {{item:3031}} (Critgar) - Rengar with sustained damage, less good at the one shots, more good at murdering the whole team should he figure out how to survive in melee range. Given he now has a cleanse, it may be unreasonable to let him battle tanks. 2. Bruiser {{item:3078}} {{item:3077}} (Trygar) - An unburstable Rengar that knows how to survive in a fight. Way less damage, way more bolas. Maknoon once showed us why versions of this build are risky. ~~3. AP {{item:3100}} {{item:3089}} (Cat-in-the-Deathcap) - A spell focused Rengar that wants to hit you with dat DOUBLE ROAR. There’s a question as to whether or not AP Rango is different enough from Lethality to be worth making viable. Not good if it's just an arms race for which build one-shots better.~~ 4. Lethality {{item:3147}} {{item:3142}} (Stabby Tabby) - Classic knifecat, stack pen, burst squishies. With this one we need to be extra careful with how much burst can be loaded onto that initial leap attack. Please GO PLAY HIM and then leave feedback here! Would love to hear your thoughts on the changes. Anything you particularly enjoy? Something you dislike? Favorite build? Is there a tweak you’d like to see that we don’t have in yet? Tell us about it. Here’s the current changelist (I’ll edit this block as updates go to the PBE to reflect his current state) > **Base stats** > Base AD:: 68+1.5 AD/lvl >>> 65 + 3 AD/lvl > Base AS:: .625 + 3.5%/lvl >>> .666 + 3%/lvl > **P changes** > Bonetooth buff:: 1/3/7/13/20 flat AD and % bonus AD >>> 1/4/9/16/25% bonus AD > Leap distance from target on landing:: 100 >>> 50 > > **Savagery - Q Revert (do the backstroke)** > Base - Rengar’s next 2 attacks gain 40% attack speed, the next attack deals 30/60/90/120/150 (+1/1.05/1.1/1.15/1.2 TAD) damage > Empowered - Rengar’s next attack deals 30-240 (+1.35 TAD) damage and grants + 50-101% AS for 5 seconds. > Q grants ferocity and Attack Speed vs. towers, but does not deal bonus damage. > Particles and sounds have been added/re-added to support the old Q animation and buffs. This includes stuff for skins. > Old icon is back. >**W-** >Cooldown:: 20/18/16/14/12 >>> 16/14.5/13/11.5/10 > **Thrill of the Hunt - R Changes** > Range at which enemies can sense Rengar:: 2000/3000/4000 >>> 1600 > Range at which Rengar can track the nearest enemy:: 2000/3000/4000 >>> 2500/3000/3500 > Movement Speed:: 40% >>> 40/50/60% > Closest enemy leap bonus:: Crit >>> 30% TAD Bonus physical damage +10/14/18 Armor shred for 4 seconds. > Enemies revealed by Thrill of the Hunt stay revealed for the spell's duration. >**Sounds -** >VO for gaining ferocity is back >VO for gaining bonetooth stacks is back >Q VO efforts are back >Third Thrill of the hunt VO is back (Uaghhg) >Full Ferocity SFX is back _Haha I'm OP, something something adapt_ - A lame bug {{item:3340}} {{item:3175}}{{item:3340}} {{item:3340}}{{champion:107}} {{item:3340}} _Haha ur dead_ - Rengar
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